Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement

Primordial Perf said:
Honestly Im not too sure what all this pulsing is about on AM... anyone?

-Pp
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Pulsing is the term that explains a dosing method of steroids, taking dosages (for example) 2 days on, 1 day off. Theoretically, it reduces shutdown and allows you to run the cycle for longer periods of time, something that is a rarity with methylated steroids.
 
I also have a question for you...
Just ordered my first Dermacrine, very excited..

I was reading how the application is best put on the upper shoulders and back, as this "is where the hormones act"... with transdermal Formestane, the point was to just get it onto light-skinned areas, such as upper thighs, behind knees, ect.

I plan on going by the instructions and applying Dermacrine to the upper chest, shoulders and back, but I thought it was just interesting on how it is best put in some areas... is there any revelance to it, or was it just chosen because of the location being simple to remember for users?
 
Highlanda01602 said:
I also have a question for you...
Just ordered my first Dermacrine, very excited..

I was reading how the application is best put on the upper shoulders and back, as this "is where the hormones act"... with transdermal Formestane, the point was to just get it onto light-skinned areas, such as upper thighs, behind knees, ect.

I plan on going by the instructions and applying Dermacrine to the upper chest, shoulders and back, but I thought it was just interesting on how it is best put in some areas... is there any revelance to it, or was it just chosen because of the location being simple to remember for users?
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The shoulder and upper back skin has an especially high concentration of steroidogenic enzymes. In fact all areas of the skin which have larger pores or areas where you may have had acne as a teenager have a higher concentration of the 3b HSD, 17b HSH, and lyase enzymes which convert DHEA to more active hormones. (Adione, Adiol, 7-alpha, 7-keto, ect)

-Pp
 
As Highlanda mentioned, pulsing is simply a way to reduce some of the negatives associated with steriods/ prohormones. I have tried Phera plex and epistane and the gains were awesome. The side effects were hard on me - specifically lethargy. This is why I am interested in pulsing and your thread has me interested and motivated. Thanks
 
eagleba said:
As Highlanda mentioned, pulsing is simply a way to reduce some of the negatives associated with steriods/ prohormones. I have tried Phera plex and epistane and the gains were awesome. The side effects were hard on me - specifically lethargy. This is why I am interested in pulsing and your thread has me interested and motivated. Thanks
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I figured it was something along these lines.

I’ve always been a fan of 2-4 week burst cycles, it’s a great way to kick start gains without causing too much trouble for recovery. I can see how the pulse would help keep the PH’s from building up too high and causing side effects, but I doubt it really limits the amount of suppression.

-Pp
 
So you mean 4 weeks of Dermacrine, then 6 weeks of Dermacrine Sustain, but before doing another 4 weeks then of Dermacrine , wouldn't you want to take a break from it?

Primordial Perf said:
Yes I think taking slightly more time on Sustain than Dermacrine would be a good idea if you plan on cycling the two for a long time. This way you can be sure you’re not compromising your natural T production. (say 6 weeks sustain, then 4 weeks Dermacrine, ect)

-Pp
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Just pondering... what if one were to up the dosage of Dermacrine? Say, twice the recommended dosage. Would that increase results? I'm not interested in other steroids/PH's due to the weight gain, so stacking with for example Epistane just isn't in my goals.
 
Highlanda01602 said:
Just pondering... what if one were to up the dosage of Dermacrine? Say, twice the recommended dosage. Would that increase results? I'm not interested in other steroids/PH's due to the weight gain, so stacking with for example Epistane just isn't in my goals.
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I thought epistane didnt produce big weight gains?

I wouldnt double the dose of Dermacrine. If anything you may find your sweet spot at a lower dose. Upping the dose will likely just cause anxiety from excessive DHEA levels without a whole lot more in gains.

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
I thought epistane didnt produce big weight gains?

I wouldnt double the dose of Dermacrine. If anything you may find your sweet spot at a lower dose. Upping the dose will likely just cause anxiety from excessive DHEA levels without a whole lot more in gains.

-Pp
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gotcha.... note taken!
 
thanks PP, i applied sustain today, and i did feel great!
got another question. i am planing to run Dermacrine with Tbol next year, will that be a good combo?
 
davidcyt said:
thanks PP, i applied sustain today, and i did feel great!
got another question. i am planing to run Dermacrine with Tbol next year, will that be a good combo?
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I think that would be a good stack. I think anything relatively dry would stack well with Dermacrine (epi, havoc, halodrol, tbol, etc).
 
Primordial Perf said:
I wouldnt double the dose of Dermacrine. If anything you may find your sweet spot at a lower dose. Upping the dose will likely just cause anxiety from excessive DHEA levels without a whole lot more in gains.

-Pp
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respect.....it's not every day you see a company telling someone NOT to up the dose of their products, and suggest a lower dose. Obviously, if he doubled the dose, you would make double the money off him but you are looking out for his best interest. Good stuff :thumbsup:
 
Skircus7 said:
respect.....it's not every day you see a company telling someone NOT to up the dose of their products, and suggest a lower dose. Obviously, if he doubled the dose, you would make double the money off him but you are looking out for his best interest. Good stuff :thumbsup:
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Well thank you.

Yes, I do think Tbol and Dermacrine would be a great stack... but Ive always been a fan of Anavar. :-)

-Pp
 
I'm starting a dermacrine log this weekend. I'll be running it along side MST's ZMK and somnidren-GH, and possibly leviathan reloaded. I have sustain lined up for the month following.
 
Travis said:
PP, I have been meaning to ask you this but I thought at some point you mentioned Dermacrine stacked with another oral or whatever can act somewhat like HCG. Could you explain that a little more if I am recollecting that correctly?

I noticed when I used the Dermacrine with an oral only cycle testicular atrophy was much much less noticeable then without it. Maybe it was just luck though...
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I'm testing this idea out too. I'm not using the safest product around, but I was curious as to how well Dermacrine would work with this.
 
slow-mun said:
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I'm testing this idea out too. I'm not using the safest product around, but I was curious as to how well Dermacrine would work with this.
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Dermacrine with Mass Tabs? Those sound like something that may be better stacked with the Sustain – for natural stimulation of testosterone.

Ive always liked to see original Dermacrine stacked with epistane, halodrol, superdrol type PH sups.

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
Dermacrine with Mass Tabs? Those sound like something that may be better stacked with the Sustain – for natural stimulation of testosterone.

Ive always liked to see original Dermacrine stacked with epistane, halodrol, superdrol type PH sups.

-Pp
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Well, I am being the guinea pig for everyone else, so hopefully this turns out well for me. I was going to use transdermal 4-AD with the Mass Tabs instead, but I figured Dermacrine would be a good guage of how well your carrier works for future cycles.
 
I'm gonna keep following this thread.

This product is interesting me. I wouldn't mind trying this out sometime. I've heard of this, here and there, but never actually looked into it. But I just did.
 
fatburner2007 said:
Correct! Was thinking of running Dermacrine and JW for 4 weeks and then follow it with Sustain for about 4 weeks.
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You most definitely should be okay. I'm be stacking it with Epistane + Anabolic Pump, Epi which is a prohormone. Just in case you didn't know.

From what I was reading at NP, Dermacrine is very effective and pretty much has 'PCT' built into it. Therefore, you can stack it with pretty much anything. Especially since it's absorbed through the skin rather than ingested.
 
MuscleGuyinNY said:
You most definitely should be okay. I'm be stacking it with Epistane + Anabolic Pump, Epi which is a prohormone. Just in case you didn't know.

From what I was reading at NP, Dermacrine is very effective and pretty much has 'post cycle therapy' built into it. Therefore, you can stack it with pretty much anything. Especially since it's absorbed through the skin rather than ingested.
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Epi is a steroid... I too am guilty of loosely using the term "pro-hormone", something I need to work on as well. Pro-hormones are a thing of the past!

Did you mean SUSTAIN is very effect as post-cycle therapy? Because Dermacrine can shut you down over the course of a short cycle, without a doubt. Sustain will not shut you down, and would be the PCT solution to go with. Typically, sustain is recommended as PCT from Dermacrine. Primordial Perf has explained to us how Dermacrine won't shut you down hard like the other steroids that are currently big (such as Epi), but to play it safe, it's always best to include a PCT plan, where sustain would fit properly.
 
Highlanda01602 said:
Epi is a steroid... I too am guilty of loosely using the term "pro-hormone", something I need to work on as well. Pro-hormones are a thing of the past!

Did you mean SUSTAIN is very effect as post-cycle therapy? Because Dermacrine can shut you down over the course of a short cycle, without a doubt. Sustain will not shut you down, and would be the post cycle therapy solution to go with. Typically, sustain is recommended as PCT from Dermacrine. Primordial Perf has explained to us how Dermacrine won't shut you down hard like the other steroids that are currently big (such as Epi), but to play it safe, it's always best to include a PCT plan, where sustain would fit properly.
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Yes, Sustain is for PCT… not so much Dermacrine anymore…

We originally came out with the original Dermacrine as something that could be used for PCT for the positive effects of DHEA on GH, IGF-1 and the effects of resveratrol, ect…. But we soon found out that the DHEA was just too powerful of a hormone to be used during PCT. Our testers where having hormones levels boosted far beyond the normal range so we knew this was causing some suppression by DHEA’s conversion to its downsteam metabolites and subsequent suppression of LH/FSH. (it is basicaly like being "on")

So anyway, Dermacrine Sustain is what you want to use for PCT.

-Pp
 
Highlanda01602 said:
Epi is a steroid... I too am guilty of loosely using the term "pro-hormone", something I need to work on as well. Pro-hormones are a thing of the past!

Did you mean SUSTAIN is very effect as post-cycle therapy? Because Dermacrine can shut you down over the course of a short cycle, without a doubt. Sustain will not shut you down, and would be the post cycle therapy solution to go with. Typically, sustain is recommended as PCT from Dermacrine. Primordial Perf has explained to us how Dermacrine won't shut you down hard like the other steroids that are currently big (such as Epi), but to play it safe, it's always best to include a PCT plan, where sustain would fit properly.
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I was planning on using Dermacrine with my Epi + AP, as well as Cycle Support, then using Sustain during PCT alongside liquid Toremifene, AX Triple Stack, Liv.52, Post Cycle Support, etc.
 
MuscleGuyinNY said:
I was planning on using Dermacrine with my Epi + AP, as well as Cycle Support, then using Sustain during post cycle therapy alongside liquid Toremifene, AX Triple Stack, Liv.52, Post Cycle Support, etc.
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Sounds like a solid cycle, for sure! An earlier post mentioned how Epi and Dermacrine are an amazing stack, with Dermacrine improving any sort of lethargy/libido loss Epi may bring. Sustain for the finish, good call. Your other post must have confused me... I thought you were going to use Dermacrine in PCT.
 
PP (E)

It is such a pleasure to see you thriving brother!!! Lot better now then when we were getting bashed on Domesticbb.com!!!

And I can personally attest to the potency of Dermacrine as my test levels were thru the roof after a VERY long (3 months I think) cycle.

Im going to grab some more Dermacrine and some Sustain from you soon enough. Im looking forward to hearing about the new products!

babyblu
 
babyblu said:
PP (E)

It is such a pleasure to see you thriving brother!!! Lot better now then when we were getting bashed on Domesticbb.com!!!

And I can personally attest to the potency of Dermacrine as my test levels were thru the roof after a VERY long (3 months I think) cycle.

Im going to grab some more Dermacrine and some Sustain from you soon enough. Im looking forward to hearing about the new products!

babyblu
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Ha! Good to see ya around bro.

-Pp
 
I can't wait to start the dermacrine. So far the 1-t is giving me pretty strong (but bearable) lethargy. About the equivalent to taking 20mg of superdrol in one dose, but doesn't quite last as long. I'm starting to wish I had got two bottles to run a full 8 weeks of both the 1-t + dermacrine, but oh well
 
PP - I know your thoughts on Formestane are that it can be too strong of an AI compared to the purposes of Dermacrine...but..could one add a low amount (3-5 gms) of formestance to either one of your products for more E control??? I'm a big fan of formestane and I would think a very low amount could contribute even more to a positive hormone profile...
 
Ben55 said:
PP - I know your thoughts on Formestane are that it can be too strong of an AI compared to the purposes of Dermacrine...but..could one add a low amount (3-5 gms) of formestance to either one of your products for more E control??? I'm a big fan of formestane and I would think a very low amount could contribute even more to a positive hormone profile...
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I think Formestane would stack well with Dermacrine if you want more E control than what the Dermacrine already has. More E control makes sense since sometimes Dermacrine can actually increase E since it has such a powerful effect on increasing T and Adione. (E usually increases proportionately to these hormones)

I just think that formestane is too powerful for most PCTs.

BTW, If you want to make your own formestane topical Id put it into our topical solution. I don’t believe you could dissolve much more powder into our current products. (They are already saturated)

-Pp
 
Hey Eric, at 4 pumps a day how long does a bottle of dermacrine normally last? And I guess too from the site it says

Use Dermacrine everyday for 2-4 weeks. We recommend taking equal time off between each cycle. For example: Use product 4 weeks, take 4 weeks off, and then repeat.
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is longer than 4 weeks a bad idea?
 
EasyEJL said:
Hey Eric, at 4 pumps a day how long does a bottle of dermacrine normally last? And I guess too from the site it says



is longer than 4 weeks a bad idea?
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The bottle should last at least 30 days at that dose.

The only reason we say "4 weeks on Dermacrine" is so your natural T levels can easily bounce back after the cycle. There is nothing wrong with staying on for longer, you just have to make sure youve got a good PCT planned. (and I think you do ;-)-

-Pp
 
Thinking of something like the following:

Week 1: Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive
Week 2: Jungle Warfare and Alpha Drive
Week 3: Jungle Warfare, Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 4: Jungle Warfare, Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 5: Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 6: Dermacrine and Alpha Drive
Week 7: Sustain and Alpha Drive
Week 8: Sustain and Alpha Drive
Week 9: Sustain and Alpha Drive
Week 10: Sustain and Alpha Drive

How does this look?
 
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