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Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.

Jimbo15 said:
you could give it a shot. i don't see any harm there.
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I might give it a try since I know I'm responsive to the Sustain Alpha; only problem is those number I had were from the topical version so I don't know for sure on the LV.

If I do it down the road and get bloodwork I will post it up.
 
i have used both topical and oral. oral is the titts :). and you dont have to wait for it to dry which was a bummer in the summer
 
I have a question for you eric. I have been on havoc for two weeks, and my libido just dropped off, I started taking 200 mgs of dhea a day until my dermacrine comes in, which should be today. Should this help with this problem? And how should I dose it? Thanks for your help. It sucks having no libido.
 
diesel7 said:
I have a question for you eric. I have been on havoc for two weeks, and my libido just dropped off, I started taking 200 mgs of dhea a day until my dermacrine comes in, which should be today. Should this help with this problem? And how should I dose it? Thanks for your help. It sucks having no libido.
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diesel7 said:
I have a question for you eric. I have been on havoc for two weeks, and my libido just dropped off, I started taking 200 mgs of dhea a day until my dermacrine comes in, which should be today. Should this help with this problem? And how should I dose it? Thanks for your help. It sucks having no libido.
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yes it will help. just dose it as instructed on the bottle. in fact its even recommended on the og havoc write up

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/recomp-performance-nutrition/82835-havoc-write-up.html

-DHEA:(Dehydroepiandrosterone)DHEA is the precursor of androstenedione, which can undergo further conversion to produce the androgen testosterone and the estrogens estrone and estradiol. This can assist in maintaining libido while taking havoc. Due to havoc's properties of estrogen suppression, this can lead to suppressed libido in some users. DHEA at 100-200mg/day has shown in some user feedback to help limit this adverse effect and maintain an adequate libido. I HIGHLY recommend Primordial Performances "Dermacrine" for your DHEA product:

Dermacrine - Boosting Testosterone with Topical DHEA and Pregnenolone
 
Thanks man, I had read that somewhere. Im just not feeling anything with regular dhea. Im hoping the derm will work better.
 
diesel7 said:
Thanks man, I had read that somewhere. Im just not feeling anything with regular dhea. Im hoping the derm will work better.
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Dermacrine and particularly the LV is far far more effective than the tablets of DHEA.

I wouldn't take both, just switch over to the Derma when you get it.
 
I'm definitely going to be using Dermacrine LV all the way through my next cycle, which is a stack/bridge of CEL's X-Tren and The One.


Can you guys help me out with the dosing of dermacrine, when used in conjunction with moderate/high doses of 19nor Tren?
 
Never even thought of Ebay...Thanks for the tip!! But I did find a site that will ship Dermacrine to Canada I spoke with them directly. Anyone wants to know shoot me a private message.
 
I just ran through the Phyto-Derm. cycle and had considered logging it but wasn't truly sold on it until the end....
 
I am pct from an epi cycle, can I jump right into derma cycle? Or should I wait another month or so. I am also running massfx during my pct.
 
ABNRanger said:
I am pct from an epi cycle, can I jump right into derma cycle? Or should I wait another month or so. I am also running massfx during my pct.
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After you finish your pct you could probably go ahead and start Dermacrine; the question is what do you consider PCT? Some people consider it to be time on = time off others say time on + pct = time off. The latter is what most will tell you on this board.
 
The latter applies to me as well. I just figured since derma was not a ph, and it is "liver safe" there might not be any harm with jumping into it. I would stack it with some "natural" supps like no-bomb from MHP, l-carnitine, CLA, and either Kre from sci-fit or neovar.
 
I was expecting to see several pounds of lean mass from reading some of the older links about the transdermal. You know you go in expecting great things and well you get what you get at the end. I never really had any grand up lifting moods ( a few here and there but not a month long high) I expected to see grand sexual happenings and well that was different, but you almost expect 24hr a day wood and well that didn't happen either. So what did happen? My body comp. definetly changed I lost a great deal of BF but I was on a super clean diet and other supps. so I am not real sure if it was all the cycle. I had several down mood swings not huge as other PH's have given me but it was noticeable. I really enhanced my vascularity and did gain some size I would think for the weight BF ratio that I lost and didn't lose much power. I had some shedding on the roof and had a minor libido flux early (went down) but I am VERY active so it's hard to say if that may have just been stress. I am 40 and I train like an animal so when I go into things like this its to break sticking points and this was not the one for that. I was VERY VERY pleased with how PP was helpful with any questions I have had and they truly care about the customer!!! I am about to run the TURI stack and will run DERM. with it because I believe it is a solid product. I will happily answer any questions I can but all I can say is that PP is awesome and they have good people on their team!!
 
i'm about to start a 4 week epi cycle and was thinking of stacking with dermacrine...what would be the ideal dosage and timing:06:?
 
dbl38 said:
I was expecting to see several pounds of lean mass from reading some of the older links about the transdermal. You know you go in expecting great things and well you get what you get at the end. I never really had any grand up lifting moods ( a few here and there but not a month long high) I expected to see grand sexual happenings and well that was different, but you almost expect 24hr a day wood and well that didn't happen either. So what did happen? My body comp. definetly changed I lost a great deal of BF but I was on a super clean diet and other supps. so I am not real sure if it was all the cycle. I had several down mood swings not huge as other PH's have given me but it was noticeable. I really enhanced my vascularity and did gain some size I would think for the weight BF ratio that I lost and didn't lose much power. I had some shedding on the roof and had a minor libido flux early (went down) but I am VERY active so it's hard to say if that may have just been stress. I am 40 and I train like an animal so when I go into things like this its to break sticking points and this was not the one for that. I was VERY VERY pleased with how PP was helpful with any questions I have had and they truly care about the customer!!! I am about to run the TURI stack and will run DERM. with it because I believe it is a solid product. I will happily answer any questions I can but all I can say is that PP is awesome and they have good people on their team!!
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Thanks for the honest review. Im sure these guys appreciate them.

_Eric
 
dbl38 said:
I was expecting to see several pounds of lean mass from reading some of the older links about the transdermal. You know you go in expecting great things and well you get what you get at the end. I never really had any grand up lifting moods ( a few here and there but not a month long high) I expected to see grand sexual happenings and well that was different, but you almost expect 24hr a day wood and well that didn't happen either. So what did happen? My body comp. definetly changed I lost a great deal of BF but I was on a super clean diet and other supps. so I am not real sure if it was all the cycle. I had several down mood swings not huge as other PH's have given me but it was noticeable. I really enhanced my vascularity and did gain some size I would think for the weight BF ratio that I lost and didn't lose much power. I had some shedding on the roof and had a minor libido flux early (went down) but I am VERY active so it's hard to say if that may have just been stress. I am 40 and I train like an animal so when I go into things like this its to break sticking points and this was not the one for that. I was VERY VERY pleased with how PP was helpful with any questions I have had and they truly care about the customer!!! I am about to run the TURI stack and will run DERM. with it because I believe it is a solid product. I will happily answer any questions I can but all I can say is that PP is awesome and they have good people on their team!!
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Thank you for the kind words my friend. I'm glad we could assist you with any questions that you had. Our team really does consist of a great group of guys and I truly enjoy working with them.

Thank you for the honest feedback and support! :)

-John
 
I have had some time off now to see how the Sustain Alpha really works and all I can say is that it sucks you can't take it 7 days a week!!! Being able to judge my gains from the Derm. however I can say that it did what it was supposed to and I look forward to using it again!!
 
very true but takeing 2 days off each week is best for hpta and homeostasis

dbl38 said:
I have had some time off now to see how the Sustain Alpha really works and all I can say is that it sucks you can't take it 7 days a week!!! Being able to judge my gains from the Derm. however I can say that it did what it was supposed to and I look forward to using it again!!
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dbl38 said:
I have had some time off now to see how the Sustain Alpha really works and all I can say is that it sucks you can't take it 7 days a week!!! Being able to judge my gains from the Derm. however I can say that it did what it was supposed to and I look forward to using it again!!
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True, most people dont recognize the benefits from Sustain until they get off of it.

-Eric
 
I'm currently running a mdrol/estane bridge and just ordered a bottle of Dermacrine. I was thinking about cutting it in on the 3rd week and running it til the end of the cycle.

Any input on this, do you guys think it will make a solid addition to it or would it be overkill? From what I gather dhea is supposed to aid in lethargy and what not...
 
I am sure glad I kept my sub on this thread, I am on Turinabol and AH, and did not think about back pumps. Time to pack on some taurine to help with that. Good stuff PP.
 
ABNRanger said:
I am sure glad I kept my sub on this thread, I am on Turinabol and AH, and did not think about back pumps. Time to pack on some taurine to help with that. Good stuff PP.
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Hey Ranger Buddy... you running a log?
 
Dude I wish I was, I am really not the logging type. I just track my stuff in my head. But I will post an end of cycle summary on how the cycle went. I will post it here on AM and on PP's forum as well.
 
ABNRanger said:
Dude I wish I was, I am really not the logging type. I just track my stuff in my head. But I will post an end of cycle summary on how the cycle went. I will post it here on AM and on PP's forum as well.
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Cool enough. I'm familiar wit Turinabol of course, but AndroHard has my interest.
 
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