Depression and anxiety please read!

[kisaj]

I would see that more as a recreational noot as visuals and mild hallucinations would not be ideal for daily use. There really isn't any research behind coluracetam, so I'd probably want to read user experiences a lot more.

Hoffmann-La Roche developed Aniracetam and it has undergone extensive research as a cognitive enhancer and for medical purposes in the area of Alzheimer’s disease and dementia. It is also the go to nootropic for anxiety and has been studied in three different animal studies. Human studies are lacking, but you'd have no trouble finding all the anecdotal evidence of how powerful it is for anxiety, speech fluidity, and social interaction.

 

[ClarkKent]

I definitely will continue to experiment with it. And sorry should of been more clear, visuals as in my vision seems take on a HD quality to it. Very crisp. Its very interesting for sure!

Ill end up trying aniracetam soon also, It appeals to me greater than oxiracetam does.

 

[MaDmaN]

Be very careful here even with supplements regarding depression and or anxiety because they often interact..I hope this may help others as i struggled for answers for years..Taking 5-HTP or St Johns Wort which are serotonin re-uptake inhibitors, can make you feel worse if you have a dopamine deficiency ..

Here is my story

for 2 years I suffered sever depression and anxiety to the point of not wanting to leave my house due to extreme fear.I was trying to figure out what was going on and not knowing what was causing the depression and anxiety was freaking me out..I actually was disappointed when I had a physical and the doctor said I was healthy because I wanted to find out what was wrong so I could fix It.

This may sound strange but I would have rather they found a tumor or dare I say cancer because it would at least gave me a reason for my depression and anxiety and then I could put together a plan of attack on finding a cure..

I am 55 years old now and back when I was in school no one ever heard of ADD back then we were just considered lazy or stupid it's sad but true..

I went to see a new therapist and after a few sessions she asked me if i like to read books and i said no because i cant focus long enough and my mind begins to drift,she then told me to make sure i told my doctor as i may need a different type of med

My son has ADD and my brothers son has it as well so genetics plays a roll and when I think back to when I was younger all the impulsive things I did now makes a lot of sense..

My doctor prescribed me Zoloft and it did work for anxiety but all I wanted to do was sleep and had no motivation or desire to do anything so they kept upping the dose and i got more and more lethargic...I actually stopped taking the Zoloft all together and that was a big mistake as i suffered brain zaps and headaches.

I used to take wellbutrin and it did help it got me motivated but gave me the jitters so i stopped taking that as well..

I was so desperate my son had a new script for focalin and his old prescription was on the shelf so i took one after my therapist suggested i had ADD but my next appointment with my doctor was 2 weeks away..

Focalin within 2 days made me feel the following

Complete elimination of anxiety
Normal, clear thought process
Much better ability to express emotion
Creativity through the roof
Excellent motivation
Great enjoyment in nearly everything
Far greater social life due to increased confidence and ability to think (easier to converse, give advice, offer solutions etc)

I realize not everyone will feel the same but I guess that is what happens when you get the right medication.

Here is the ironic twist my son has ADD and has been on Focalin a dopamine reuptake inhibitor for 2 years so what I actually needed was right in front of me all this time but the struggle and suffering I guess was necessary and gods plan so maybe I can help someone else like me in the future..

Good luck to all and if you feel like your doctor is not helping you or you have been misdiagnosed find another doctor !!! Bottom line untreated ADD transitioned to depression and anxiety..

Supplement wise i do take L-Tyrosine which will up regulate dopamine receptors as well as ALCAR,NAC, plus my pre-workout Speed X3 and i just seem to love stims because i am dopamine deficient and they stimulate what i am lacking.

One a week i take Phenibut 1-1/2 grams and it mellows me right out plus i sleep like a baby but only once a week.

 

[Duywayne]

Be very careful here even with supplements regarding depression and or anxiety because they often interact..I hope this may help others as i struggled for answers for years..Taking 5-HTP or St Johns Wort which are serotonin re-uptake inhibitors, can make you feel worse if you have a dopamine deficiency ..

Here is my story

for 2 years I suffered sever depression and anxiety to the point of not wanting to leave my house due to extreme fear.I was trying to figure out what was going on and not knowing what was causing the depression and anxiety was freaking me out..I actually was disappointed when I had a physical and the doctor said I was healthy because I wanted to find out what was wrong so I could fix It.

This may sound strange but I would have rather they found a tumor or dare I say cancer because it would at least gave me a reason for my depression and anxiety and then I could put together a plan of attack on finding a cure..

I am 55 years old now and back when I was in school no one ever heard of ADD back then we were just considered lazy or stupid it's sad but true..

I went to see a new therapist and after a few sessions she asked me if i like to read books and i said no because i cant focus long enough and my mind begins to drift,she then told me to make sure i told my doctor as i may need a different type of med

My son has ADD and my brothers son has it as well so genetics plays a roll and when I think back to when I was younger all the impulsive things I did now makes a lot of sense..

My doctor prescribed me Zoloft and it did work for anxiety but all I wanted to do was sleep and had no motivation or desire to do anything so they kept upping the dose and i got more and more lethargic...I actually stopped taking the Zoloft all together and that was a big mistake as i suffered brain zaps and headaches.

I used to take wellbutrin and it did help it got me motivated but gave me the jitters so i stopped taking that as well..

I was so desperate my son had a new script for focalin and his old prescription was on the shelf so i took one after my therapist suggested i had ADD but my next appointment with my doctor was 2 weeks away..

Focalin within 2 days made me feel the following

Complete elimination of anxiety
Normal, clear thought process
Much better ability to express emotion
Creativity through the roof
Excellent motivation
Great enjoyment in nearly everything
Far greater social life due to increased confidence and ability to think (easier to converse, give advice, offer solutions etc)

I realize not everyone will feel the same but I guess that is what happens when you get the right medication.

Here is the ironic twist my son has ADD and has been on Focalin a dopamine reuptake inhibitor for 2 years so what I actually needed was right in front of me all this time but the struggle and suffering I guess was necessary and gods plan so maybe I can help someone else like me in the future..

Good luck to all and if you feel like your doctor is not helping you or you have been misdiagnosed find another doctor !!! Bottom line untreated ADD transitioned to depression and anxiety..

Supplement wise i do take L-Tyrosine which will up regulate dopamine receptors as well as ALCAR,NAC, plus my pre-workout Speed X3 and i just seem to love stims because i am dopamine deficient and they stimulate what i am lacking.

One a week i take Phenibut 1-1/2 grams and it mellows me right out plus i sleep like a baby but only once a week.

Great input. Were you able to see your doc and did he prescribe you the Focalin? I just wonder how it is for adults and if its meant to be a long term solution. Since ADD/ADHD drugs are stimulants.. they don't actually work to correct the levels of neurotransmitters that are deficient like Wellbutrin would, instead they increase levels of dopamine to supraphysiological levels which feel great in the short term, but in the long term when the drug wears off you may feel terrible.

 

[MaDmaN]

Great input. Were you able to see your doc and did he prescribe you the Focalin? I just wonder how it is for adults and if its meant to be a long term solution. Since ADD/ADHD drugs are stimulants.. they don't actually work to correct the levels of neurotransmitters that are deficient like Wellbutrin would, instead they increase levels of dopamine to supraphysiological levels which feel great in the short term, but in the long term when the drug wears off you may feel terrible.

Dwayne, yes after what the therapist said and how i felt after taking the focalin my pdoc prescribed it for me and it has been 10 months i currently take the same dose as i did 10 months ago Focalin Dexmethylphenadate 15mg twice a day, and what i do is skip the weekends eat healthy workout and take L-tyrosine,NAC,ALCAR and magnesium to keep up regulate dopamine receptors.. No crash at all nice clean feeling slightly euphoric almost like cocaine but not as intense and last much longer.

 

[Blergs]

Hi guys, i'm going to get straight to the point.. i've suffered with depression and anxiety my whole life.

My anxiety is so bad I literally can not go to the library/cafeteria without being in distraught, even with friends the crowd completely unnerves me.

I have lately been researching into amino acid therapy, and I am making a trip to GNC today, can anyone recommend/shed some light on this?

My current plan is:

L-Tyrosine - 500mg mornings once daily (dose will be adjusted until find that dose that works for me)

5htp 50mg - Evening, once daily.

Vitamin B Complex, taken with L-tyrosine in the morning (Should I also take this with 5-htp in the evening?)

Vitamin C with L-tyro/5htp.


Does anyone have any recommendations to add to this? I want to feel alive, and I really have confidence after reading other people's experiences that this might be what does it for me.

I'm going to gnc within 3-4 hours so any help would be so much appreciated.

Kava KAva root drinks, or extract past taken in little balls like a pill. Its safe and doesn't lose effectiveness and if ok to use for long periods of time IMO.

 

[DoubleM101]

I already received Aniracetam and Alpha GPC.

I´m starting slowly. Yesterday took 300mg Ani + 200mg GPC x 2. Today i already took 600mg Ani x 400mg GPC and i´m planning to take other full dose later in the day.

About the effects, yesterday, a few minutes after taking it, i felt a mild tingling sensation on the lower spine, hard to describe but it felts good. I already have felt the same when i took muscular relaxants before. After that i started to feel some relaxion (altough nothing like benzos effect) and i got really tired and my head started to feel like was weighting a ton and some mild diziness. Maybe thats what i already heard as "brain fog", i don´t know.

Lets see how things will progress.

I´m concerned about a thing. The Ani they send me, expires on 12/17, so theres no way i can take it all until there. I bought 30g. I already contact them but i got no answer yet. I´m getting a bit disappointed with the store. It should be safe to continue taking it?

 

[kisaj]

Hard to say about what you bought since it is a bulk purchase, but I wouldn't be happy about getting a product that expired in a week. Ani tends to be mentally energizing and you'd be hard pressed to find many reports of "fog". Not sure what that may be about.

 

[jarrellt67]

I already received Aniracetam and Alpha GPC.

I´m starting slowly. Yesterday took 300mg Ani + 200mg GPC x 2. Today i already took 600mg Ani x 400mg GPC and i´m planning to take other full dose later in the day.

About the effects, yesterday, a few minutes after taking it, i felt a mild tingling sensation on the lower spine, hard to describe but it felts good. I already have felt the same when i took muscular relaxants before. After that i started to feel some relaxion (altough nothing like benzos effect) and i got really tired and my head started to feel like was weighting a ton and some mild diziness. Maybe thats what i already heard as "brain fog", i don´t know.

Lets see how things will progress.

I´m concerned about a thing. The Ani they send me, expires on 12/17, so theres no way i can take it all until there. I bought 30g. I already contact them but i got no answer yet. I´m getting a bit disappointed with the store. It should be safe to continue taking it?

It expires on 12/17/14 (or does it just say 12/17...in which case it expires by December 2017)? None of the supplements I have list an expiration date down to the actual day.

 

[DoubleM101]

It says:

MFG date: 17/12/2012
Expiry date: 16/12/2014

So, i guess, they put 2 years after the mfg date.

I still have no answer from the seller.

It has a good feeback on eBay http://stores.ebay.co.uk/mind-foods-eu and the website (where i bought it) is: http://www.mind-foods.eu/ However, this week on the eBay, it had a message telling it ceased the account becase some problems with eBay but now is working. The Website has randomly show a message telling it has closed but it seems is working too..

I bought some Ani + GPC on powdercity too but since it takes a lot more to arrive here and it can stop on customs, i´ve bought meanwhile in this UK store, thats why.. But honestly, i´m starting to think this guys are joking with this.. I had to ask like 3 ou 4 times for a tracking number and now this..

If they don´t answer me, i´ll open a case on Paypal.

 

[jarrellt67]

It says:

MFG date: 17/12/2012
Expiry date: 16/12/2014

So, i guess, they put 2 years after the mfg date.

I still have no answer from the seller.

It has a good feeback on eBay http://stores.ebay.co.uk/mind-foods-eu and the website (where i bought it) is: http://www.mind-foods.eu/ However, this week on the eBay, it had a message telling it ceased the account becase some problems with eBay but now is working. The Website has randomly show a message telling it has closed but it seems is working too..

I bought some Ani + GPC on powdercity too but since it takes a lot more to arrive here and it can stop on customs, i´ve bought meanwhile in this UK store, thats why.. But honestly, i´m starting to think this guys are joking with this.. I had to ask like 3 ou 4 times for a tracking number and now this..

If they don´t answer me, i´ll open a case on Paypal.

That's crazy. I can see why you're upset about it. Personally, I'd stop using it if you're questioning the source (especially with an expiration date within one week).

 

[kisaj]

As would I. That is bad business.

 

[DoubleM101]

I have send another ticket to the seller.. If i got no answer in 2 or 3 days, i´ll open a case on Paypal.

For now, i´m taking it, i must admit afraid but..

I feel more relaxed in fact and after taking it i feel a huge surge to sleep. I´m not sleeping too much lately and that can be one of the causes.

Funny thing, after the first dose, i had 3 spontaneous flashbacks. Suddenly i remembered specific things that happened years ago. One of them, more than 20 years ago.

 

[kisaj]

Well, the main benefit of Ani is memory recall, speech, and compartmentalizing of thoughts so that could be in play. The curious thing is your tiredness, but noots affect people differently, so totally possible.

 

[Quadzilla99]

Expiration date like that wouldn't matter at all as long as it was stored right:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/04/02/drug-expiration-part-one.aspx

Might be bunk but the expiration date's nothing to worry about so thats a separate topic

 

[made2last]

High doses of fish oil make me blow monster loads, I guess that can make 1 happy lol, I started pregnenlone last week and im alway in a good mood, can't stop smiling or laughing, the difference is night and day, this is something I should of did under doctors supervision but oh well, I look forward to every day now, I have alot to be thankful for, but now I get to enjoy it.

 

[ELROCK]

High doses of fish oil make me blow monster loads, I guess that can make 1 happy lol, I started pregnenlone last week and im alway in a good mood, can't stop smiling or laughing, the difference is night and day, this is something I should of did under doctors supervision but oh well, I look forward to every day now, I have alot to be thankful for, but now I get to enjoy it.

Thats great man!

 

[bobbybondmo]

Maybe you need TRT....talk to your Doctor and get to bottom of this before trying to bandaid it.

 

[Todd Garner]

I would advise going to a specialist. Supplements may help reduce anxiety on a day to day basis, but psychological issues tend to be quite complex and should only really be dealt with by a specialist IMO; especially if you seek long term help.

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