Just wondering has anyone ever used the deer antler velvet curious about it and skeptical wondering if it would be worth stacking with my other ph cycles in the spring ??
Here it isI can't seem to find any threads about these products so I'll go ahead and share my experiences in case the stuff is still floating around. Sorry for venting: These are all useless forms of IGF that for some reason I continued to try and expect results looking for a healthier alternative to hormone modulators . Several BS companies came out with the sprays, drops, and pills after the MLB publicly announced it's ban in I believe summer of 2011. "Oh, so that's what they're all taking!?" Most of these companies were similar to that of Force Factor in which they sold extremely overpriced bunk bottles with outrageous marketing claims but didn't make it to GNC thankfully. I don't know how GNC gets away with pushing that stuff anyhow but that's beside the point. I myself worked at a Complete Nutrition (never go there) at the time who began to carry SOTO IGF pills and sprays and HGH sprays. Their marketing rep had taken his share of gear and swore that the stuff "hit like superdrol." There was no "real" info online about its effectiveness so I picked up the spray and the pills which was supposedly going be way too much IGF. I immediately told all of my buddies about this new miracle drug so they went out and bought some online through Amazon and what not from a number of different companies. The stuff is not cheap, running from $40-80 a bottle and usually requires dosing by body weight so you could easily need 3 bottles a month. To my surprise, it did not hit like superdrol for any of us. Not one person I know has noticed a thing from it. So, determined to find my superdrol, I get convinced from another company that in order for the IGF to absorb sublingualy, it needed to be mixed with 35-55% alcohol. I bought 6 bottles and doubled the dosage for my body weight and saw absolutely nothing in a month as well. Despite a few honest efforts, the deer antler sprays were probably all intentional scams. I don't see many of them floating around anymore as they have since been disproven by research and ineffectiveness. Bottom line, don't be a dumbass like me and expect anything natural to hit anywhere close to a PH. The only thing close to "hitting like superdrol" is Alpha anyways. (Since the ban). The only way for IGF to be effective is through injection. If Ray Lewis really did only use IGF, he also injected it.
I use IGF-Lr3 and IGF-DES now and yeah if taken pre workout they both give me great boost in strength and aggression in the gym.... But I was referring to the Deer Antelor extract spray. I might have been feeling the placebo effect but who knows. It is cheap I would say give it a shot if you don't wont to take the peptides. But I don't think the two compare.IGF peptide? Or a spray?