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ironhands said:
people don't just wanna see pictures, they wanna see footage too
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I assume that's all your silent fans PMing you because no one on here wanted to see videos. Can you tag all the people that told you they wanted to see videos... Or are you fibbing again?
 
Not natty, very hard worker though.

He was natty for about 10 years though using ironhands method of identifying nattys i.e. He claimed he was natty.Invalid Link Removed
 
ironhands said:
i heard of jon jon park, son of reg park, he says his dad was natty. why would he lie?
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So basically you just believe everything anyone says. People lie all the time to put themselves in a better light. AAS are illegal,idiot. You do realize many of these people are under contract or compete and would lose all that if they were honest, right? Oh, and I’ve yet to see any positive comments to your pictures much less your stupid videos. You were asked for proof via message that people wanted this stuff but I’m sure you’ll ignore that too and continue your posts. Ironhands lives in a fantasy world where he has a million followers all waiting for his next post.
 
stock28 said:
So basically you just believe everything anyone says. People lie all the time to put themselves in a better light. AAS are illegal,idiot. You do realize many of these people are under contract or compete and would lose all that if they were honest, right? Oh, and I’ve yet to see any positive comments to your pictures much less your stupid videos. You were asked for proof via message that people wanted this stuff but I’m sure you’ll ignore that too and continue your posts. Ironhands lives in a fantasy world where he has a million followers all waiting for his next post.
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There is no point in trying. Believe me, we all have. The strange thing about him is the uncertainty that he may be a troll or a ligitimate special needs simpleton.

I'm going with simpleton although the whole "I have 19 inch arms and I'm completely natural but I'm not going to show picks because I'm shy. I also can't post what I do to eat or workout because I'm shy" does scream troll, or genuinely is embarrassed about what he looks like, eats like and trains like. When people are shy it's usually because they genuinely think thyy are rubbish at something so go figure.

We then have the "apologise to me and I'll post something" lie where people have apologised and he still hasn't posted anything.

But then he did stop posting pics of Mike ohearn when I pointed out evidence that he used natural test boosters so he must genuinely believe a lot of what he says.

You should get him talking about religion, it just opens a whole new world of wtf. But also explains how he could believe in the impossible.

I just like some of his pics nowadays because he isn't gonna change and needs some kind of help in the real world not on a forum where we all hide behind aliases.

People who have been rejected by society or have never fit into it in their lifetime find huge comfort in doing the suff he does. Post ten pics, post "you can do it, natural, no steroids, just commitment" then sit back and wait for everyone to tell him to fak off and that he's full of ****, then post ten pics followed by generic post. And just repeat and feed off the people you seem to have wound up. It goes way deeper than "troll"

I'm kinda rambling, but then I'm sitting on the toilet and was bored.
 
Agree 100% with everything you said. I just hate the idea of someone coming here looking for help and believing this BS. That’s the only reason I keep posting. He must have me on block or ignore because he never responds to anything I say or ask of him.
 
Ah who cares. I just don't understand how he has the energy to post this much regardless and also not how people have the energy to argue about it. So he believes they're natty?, fine reality will hit anyone that tries to look like Mike ohearn naturally and maybe some people need to believe things that aren't possible to achieve more than they would otherwise?. Hes a troll? Who cares? It doesn't affect my day the slightest. Obviously there's nothing you can do to convince the guy or make him say I'm just messing with you so don't bother.

If you wanna convince anyone that's unreasonable and argues against better knowledge maybe the best thing is to ask, what can I do to change your mind? If you give every argument you have and they still aren't convinced you just have to agree to disagree.
 
Chados said:
Ah who cares. I just don't understand how he has the energy to post this much regardless and also not how people have the energy to argue about it. So he believes they're natty?, fine reality will hit anyone that tries to look like Mike ohearn naturally and maybe some people need to believe things that aren't possible to achieve more than they would otherwise?. Hes a troll? Who cares? It doesn't affect my day the slightest. Obviously there's nothing you can do to convince the guy or make him say I'm just messing with you so don't bother.

If you wanna convince anyone that's unreasonable and argues against better knowledge maybe the best thing is to ask, what can I do to change your mind? If you give every argument you have and they still aren't convinced you just have to agree to disagree.
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You’re entirely correct, but I can say that you’re wasting your time telling people who are wasting their time to stop wasting their time. And you could say I’m wasting my time by telling you that you’re wasting your time by telling them that they’re wasting their time.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
You’re entirely correct, but I can say that you’re wasting your time telling people who are wasting their time to stop wasting their time. And you could say I’m wasting my time by telling you that you’re wasting your time by telling them that they’re wasting their time.
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Yeah well I thought its better I waste my time for like 2 minutes than 159 other people keep wasting their time as they don't seem to get it doesn't work haha. I didn't say wasting time, I said I don't get how people has the energy to convince someone that obviously won't change his mind. The least you can do is to give some information rather than saying it's possible/it's not possible. It's barely a discussion but just silly arguments
 
Chados said:
Yeah well I thought its better I waste my time for like 2 minutes than 159 other people keep wasting their time as they don't seem to get it doesn't work haha
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I’m just screwing with you man. I’m the biggest example of going back and forth with people long past the point of diminishing returns.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Vitamin D increases testosterone. If you ever took a vitamin you’re not natty bro.
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i do take a multi vitamin multi mineral supplement but that doesn't mean i'm not natty. oh, and i do get some vitamin d from the sun, 10-15 minutes of sun a day (no more than that due to fear of wrinkles)
 
ironhands said:
i do take a multi vitamin multi mineral supplement but that doesn't mean i'm not natty. oh, and i do get some vitamin d from the sun, 10-15 minutes of sun a day (no more than that due to fear of wrinkles)
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If herbal natural testosterone boosters aren’t natty, then neither is Vitamin D; they both NATURALLY increase testosterone. It’s when you use hormones that you become not natty, as you artificially increase your levels by introducing foreign hormones.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
If herbal natural testosterone boosters aren’t natty, then neither is Vitamin D; they both NATURALLY increase testosterone. It’s when you use hormones that you become not natty, as you artificially increase your levels by introducing foreign hormones.
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no...getting some sunlight doesn't mean you are not natty, or drinking some coffee doesn't mean you are not natty. now...taking a testosterone booster......with the intention.....of INCREASING testosterone levels....bro, you ain't natty
 
ironhands said:
no...getting some sunlight doesn't mean you are not natty, or drinking some coffee doesn't mean you are not natty. now...taking a testosterone booster......with the intention.....of INCREASING testosterone levels....bro, you ain't natty
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I’m talking about getting the D (lol) from a pill (multivitamin), not the sun.

So if I take a Vitamin D pill to be healthy it’s natty, but if I take it with the intention of increasing my testosterone it’s not?

What is this, quantum natty theory? Schrödinger’s testosterone?

Edit: I think I’ll go with quantum physiques. That has a good ring to it. It just sounds like a snobby French guy saying quantum physics.
 
ironhands said:
no...getting some sunlight doesn't mean you are not natty, or drinking some coffee doesn't mean you are not natty. now...taking a testosterone booster......with the intention.....of INCREASING testosterone levels....bro, you ain't natty
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Not gonna go in to a discussion who's natty and not, what's natty and what's not. One question and I'm out.. Exactly where do you get your information from that he or she is natty? Saying natty when young is like saying every person alive has been natty once
 
Chados said:
Not gonna go in to a discussion who's natty and not, what's natty and what's not. One question and I'm out.. Exactly where do you get your information from that he or she is natty? Saying natty when young is like saying every person alive has been natty once
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What if the mother was on steroids when she was pregnant? Boom. Non-natty newborn!
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I’m talking about getting the D (lol) from a pill (multivitamin), not the sun.

So if I take a Vitamin D pill to be healthy it’s natty, but if I take it with the intention of increasing my testosterone it’s not?

What is this, quantum natty theory? Schrödinger’s testosterone?

Edit: I think I’ll go with quantum physiques. That has a good ring to it. It just sounds like a snobby French guy saying quantum physics.
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the reason i removed mike o'hearn from this thread is because he admitted to me that he took testosterone booster
 
Chados said:
Not gonna go in to a discussion who's natty and not, what's natty and what's not. One question and I'm out.. Exactly where do you get your information from that he or she is natty? Saying natty when young is like saying every person alive has been natty once
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i met jason genova irl when he was a true natty, but unfortunately he eventually took prohormones
 
Chados said:
Not gonna go in to a discussion who's natty and not, what's natty and what's not. One question and I'm out.. Exactly where do you get your information from that he or she is natty? Saying natty when young is like saying every person alive has been natty once
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He’s not going to answer that question. I’ve asked before and he skips right over it and continues posting.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
What if the mother was on steroids when she was pregnant? Boom. Non-natty newborn!
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Yeah true but let's take that out of the equation. Even if it has any effect in not sure the kid would be able to shred up in the stomach haha. I'm more curious he knows they are natty (now) cause saying they were natty is actually true. It's like me saying the guy in my profile pic was natty as young, true, the person on your picture was natty and still is if I remember correctly but you see my point :D
 
ironhands said:
the reason i removed mike o'hearn from this thread is because he admitted to me that he took testosterone booster
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If by “testosterone booster” you mean he injected l himself with testosterone, then you’re right.

Wait a minute... he admitted it to YOU? You personally talked to him about supplements? Ok...
 
Chados said:
Yeah true but let's take that out of the equation. Even if it has any effect in not sure the kid would be able to shred up in the stomach haha. I'm more curious he knows they are natty (now) cause saying they were natty is actually true. It's like me saying the guy in my profile pic was natty as young, true, the person on your picture was natty and still is if I remember correctly but you see my point :D
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Yeah, you’re 100% correct. Ronnie Coleman was natural for a while too. I’m not natty according to ironhands though, so I may as well juice up since I apparently have to turn in my natty card now.
 
ironhands said:
i met jason genova irl when he was a true natty, but unfortunately he eventually took prohormones
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Well Jason is still not really unbelievably jacked but regardless you put this thread as something for natural people, Jason isn't natty now right? So who cars if he was natty, we all were. None of these have been natty their whole life. Anyways I got my answer without getting it.. I'm out
 
muscleupcrohn said:
If by “testosterone booster” you mean he injected l himself with testosterone, then you’re right.

Wait a minute... he admitted it to YOU? You personally talked to him about supplements? Ok...
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Oh you must have missed that conversation. Ironhands said he talked to him. I asked if he knew him and he said yes, on you tube
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Yeah, you’re 100% correct. Ronnie Coleman was natural for a while too. I’m not natty according to ironhands though, so I may as well juice up since I apparently have to turn in my natty card now.
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All I can say is welcome crohn, welcome to the club
 
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