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Deciding on a PH...HELP!

I know hdrol, which I was thinking about doing first, takes about 3 weeks to see/ feel anything. It's slow. But what about this stack I'm going to do. Is Epi any different added with TR3ST
 
Patsfan073 said:
I know hdrol, which I was thinking about doing first, takes about 3 weeks to see/ feel anything. It's slow. But what about this stack I'm going to do. Is Epi any different added with TR3ST
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Epi kicks in slightly faster than H-Drol and TR3ST kicks in almost immediately.
 
And the good thing is... The PH cycles I've done and also the 12 week test cycle I did a couple years back, I had zero sides, which was awesome. Let's just hope it stays that way with this one. But I do remember when I was doing the test, I would be sitting in class in the morning and my arm pits would be soaked through 2 t shirts. I wouldn't say that's a side it's normal just was embarrassing haha
 
Patsfan073 said:
And the good thing is... The PH cycles I've done and also the 12 week test cycle I did a couple years back, I had zero sides, which was awesome. Let's just hope it stays that way with this one. But I do remember when I was doing the test, I would be sitting in class in the morning and my arm pits would be soaked through 2 t shirts. I wouldn't say that's a side it's normal just was embarrassing haha
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That happens to me with every steroid. Not fun but I can handle it :D
 
Do you think a couple beers once a week would kill me during the cycle? It's tough to go 2 months without a beer! Haha and no I am not an alcoholic. Plus, I've heard it's actually good to drink a beer after a workout.
 
Patsfan073 said:
Do you think a couple beers once a week would kill me during the cycle? It's tough to go 2 months without a beer! Haha and no I am not an alcoholic. Plus, I've heard it's actually good to drink a beer after a workout.
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It won't kill you but what good it does to you? Nothing.

The one who told you that is probably an alcoholic :) Maltodextrin will help to fill glycogen storages again without negative effects of alcohol.
 
Patsfan073 said:
Do you think a couple beers once a week would kill me during the cycle? It's tough to go 2 months without a beer! Haha and no I am not an alcoholic. Plus, I've heard it's actually good to drink a beer after a workout.
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I've heard steroids will kill you...
 
Mystere3 said:
Much harsher than either, run 4 weeks max, kicks in fast, adds a bit more mass.
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I ran Stenzine and didnt think it was that harsh.

Harsh to me is SD/Tren X stack, lol.

Anyways, Msten is stronger but not necessarily more effective. I had better quality on Hdrol than with Stenzine.
 
If i was going to take epi or halo solo for this cycle seeing I havent touched anything in 2 years...would you recommend cycle assist? Does it help with lethargy and libido?
 
Patsfan073 said:
If i was going to take epi or halo solo for this cycle seeing I havent touched anything in 2 years...would you recommend cycle assist? Does it help with lethargy and libido?
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Cycle assist is more to help with your blood pressure and lipids and liver. You need a test base for lethargy and libido.
 
Patsfan073 said:
If i was going to take epi or halo solo for this cycle seeing I havent touched anything in 2 years...would you recommend cycle assist? Does it help with lethargy and libido?
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cycle assist will provide some liver protection, keep blood pressure in check, etc.

dermacrine or stano will assist with lethargy


edit: mystere beat me to it
 
fueledpassion said:
I ran Stenzine and didnt think it was that harsh.

Harsh to me is SD/Tren X stack, lol.

Anyways, Msten is stronger but not necessarily more effective. I had better quality on Hdrol than with Stenzine.
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Just goes to show everyone is different. Hdrol wasn't super effective for me, even at 100+ mg.
 
Patsfan073 said:
Do you think a couple beers once a week would kill me during the cycle? It's tough to go 2 months without a beer! Haha and no I am not an alcoholic. Plus, I've heard it's actually good to drink a beer after a workout.
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Im kind of suprised to see this post. Will beers kill you? No. But on any cycle its stupid to drink, even in moderation. Especially though on an oral
 
Awesome. I'm going with Epi for 6 weeks! Hopefully one bottle is enough. I was going to start it at 50, but bump it to 75 quick. 50 wont do anything. And maybe grab some stano! I hate the lethargy during cycles !
 
Use a cycle support product. If you already ordered TR3ST, you can use low dose of it as a "test base" if lethargy/libido loss kicks in. Or you could try it preworkout or pre sex just for fun... ;)
 
Patsfan073 said:
Awesome. I'm going with Epi for 6 weeks! Hopefully one bottle is enough. I was going to start it at 50, but bump it to 75 quick. 50 wont do anything. And maybe grab some stano! I hate the lethargy during cycles !
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I'm sure that one bottle of Epi is enough :) It's great at 45mg/day!
 
Mystere3 said:
Just goes to show everyone is different. Hdrol wasn't super effective for me, even at 100+ mg.
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I'm convinced the brand matters though. Case in point (years ago) as an example:

1) Ran CEL Mdrol and bridged into Hdrol, neither was a real home run hittin cycle..was noticeable but nothing spectacular. 3 years later ran Transform Forged SD and BLEW UP with serious strength and sides. Both cycles were with Test base too.

2) 5 months after that I ran LGI Halo-25 and BLEW UP on it too with very few sides, again with TRT base.

3) Same story with X-Tren vs original ACL Tren Xtreme. ACL was WAY stronger...like 8 more lean lbs in 4 weeks time stronger...

Not all PH's mfg are the same. Sorry for those it might offend but its true.

I'm not mentioning who is good for what because I dont know about most of the new ph suppliers.

However, I do know that Transform and LGI have put out some of the highest quality products from my experience.
 
The cycle is going to be

Epi 30/30/45/45/45/45
Stano 800/800/800/800/800/800 (I dont know if one bottle is enough for that)

For support ill take

-Cycle support by CEL (preload a week in advance)
-Multi
-Fish oil

Post cycle:
-Tamoxifen: 20/20/10/10

What do you guys think?
 
The cycle is going to be

Epi 30/30/45/45/45/45
Stano 800/800/800/800/800/800 (I dont know if one bottle is enough for that)

For support ill take

-Cycle support by CEL (preload a week in advance)
-Multi
-Fish oil

Post cycle:
-Tamoxifen: 20/20/10/10

What do you guys think?
 
You can try blackstonelabs methadrol extreme which is on sale now. You know it's legit because it got banned because their manufacturer accidentally contaminated some vitamins with the powder and ppl got total shutdown from the vitamins and analysis found methylsten haha.

Places are closing it out for 50-75% off now, like orbit nutrition.

fueledpassion said:
I'm convinced the brand matters though. Case in point (years ago) as an example:

1) Ran CEL Mdrol and bridged into Hdrol, neither was a real home run hittin cycle..was noticeable but nothing spectacular. 3 years later ran Transform Forged SD and BLEW UP with serious strength and sides. Both cycles were with Test base too.

2) 5 months after that I ran LGI Halo-25 and BLEW UP on it too with very few sides, again with TRT base.

3) Same story with X-Tren vs original ACL Tren Xtreme. ACL was WAY stronger...like 8 more lean lbs in 4 weeks time stronger...

Not all PH's mfg are the same. Sorry for those it might offend but its true.

I'm not mentioning who is good for what because I dont know about most of the new ph suppliers.

However, I do know that Transform and LGI have put out some of the highest quality products from my experience.
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Mystere3 said:
You can try blackstonelabs methadrol extreme which is on sale now. You know it's legit because it got banned because their manufacturer accidentally contaminated some vitamins with the powder and ppl got total shutdown from the vitamins and analysis found methylsten haha.

Places are closing it out for 50-75% off now, like orbit nutrition.
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So now M Sten is scheduled to be a controlled substance?

J/W...I dunno how you do an analysis and miss the other two steroids in the product..
 
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