Dbol Cycle advice

[Mivvi]

Hey guys I’ve just joined and I like what I’m seeing. Great amounts of info here and people seem to be really helpful other than in other forums where members just post useless insights along the lines of ‘do some research’... completely un-helpful!

Anyway, I’m planning on taking some 10mg Dianabol orals and bridge it with some injectable Winny. Before I start my cycle, however, I’d like to make sure I have everything I need etc. I’m 21, 5”10’, and 176 pounds. My goal is to put on muscle with the Dbol and then cut it up with the Winny to achieve that ripped look a little like Rob Riches. I’m lucky enough to be blessed with a very low bf% of 6% so I don’t think I’ll bloat much...!

At the moment I’ve done lots of reading and research but haven’t actually asked anybody what they think... So I am planning on running Dbol and Winny like this:

Week 1: 20mg Dbol

Week 2: 20mg Dbol

Week 3: 20mg Dbol

Week 4: 30mg Dbol

Week 5: 30mg Dbol 50mg Winny

Week 6: 20mg Dbol 50mg Winny

Week 7: 50mg Winny

During the cycle I’ll take Liver Milk to help my liver out. Now’s my chance to ask: just wondering if this was a good cycle plan? Should I add or take away anything to/from the cycle like another steroid to help with my goals or clomid to stop any bloating or take Winny out the picture? Or will I not experience much bloating with my bf%? At the moment I have the Dbol but not the Winny so I'd prefer to keep Dbol in my cycle. Will this cycle help me to achieve my goal?

For PCT I was told it was good to start one week after my last Winny dose. Is this true? I was planning on doing a pyramid of Tamoxifen for 5 days (10mg for one day, 20mg for 2 days, 30mg for 3 days, 40mg for 4 days, 50 mg for 5 days, and back down again). So my therapy would last for 25 days. Would this be a suitable PCT for the cycle I’m doing?

Thank you very much for any advice you send my way. I really appreciate it guys.

 

[MidwestBeast]

I wouldn't run Dbol that long. Cap it at 4 weeks.

Add in test. Run that as a base for 10-12 weeks.

Run the winny the last 4 weeks of the cycle, going past the last test injection for 2 weeks (e.g. you take test weeks 1-10, so you take winny weeks 9-12), and you can start PCT the day you stop the winny.

I wouldn't do this at age 21, but if you're going to, take the above advice.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Also, just read the PCT portion.

Don't pyramid your Nolva up. Start high and go down. Go 40/40/20/20 or 40/40/20/10. Add in a natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate to bring libido and test back up. You can add a lot more things to it, but those are the two I'd do for sure.

 

[Mivvi]

Thank you for the advise. I'll make sure and start high with my PCT and add in Tauro Test to stimulate my natural testosterone.

But I'm sorry - I should have clarified - I would rather not take test as I don't want to completely explode as that's what I've been told test would do to you! Anything else you could suggest?

But again, thank you very much for the advice.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Thank you for the advise. I'll make sure and start high with my PCT and add in Tauro Test to stimulate my natural testosterone.

But I'm sorry - I should have clarified - I would rather not take test as I don't want to completely explode as that's what I've been told test would do to you! Anything else you could suggest?

But again, thank you very much for the advice.

As far as "exploding" -- that's going to come largely from dieting more so than the test. And if anything, the dbol will cause this more than the test. The test will just give you a good base and solidify gains, making them easier to hold onto as well as helping you to feel much better on cycle and recover quicker and better. Most people not using test are running oral only PH/OTC cycles.

You can do it without, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it.

 

[Mivvi]

Ah okay I understand. If there's nothing else you could suggest, and I was to run test, what test would it be? Prop? And how would I dose it and when?

 

[MidwestBeast]

Ah okay I understand. If there's nothing else you could suggest, and I was to run test, what test would it be? Prop? And how would I dose it and when?

If it's me doing it, I'd run Test-E, just to avoid more injections, but then again, I loathe needles lol. Any form of test will work fine for you, though. The E or C will have the longer esters that A) take longer to kick in and B) take longer to clear. The prop will kick in quicker and be out or your system quicker. With prop, you're looking at EOD injections versus 2 days/week injections with either of the others. It's really up to you. Based on saying that your bf% is already so low, I wouldn't be worried about needing prop over the others.

I'd dose it at 500mg/week, split into 2 shots of 250mg each (e.g. Mon and Thurs each week).