brundel
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That increase in reps is where you see the strength first.
Over the course of the cycle itll slowly creep up to heavier weight.
Good stuff bro keep it up.
daves rebirth run!!!
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That increase in reps is where you see the strength first.
Over the course of the cycle itll slowly creep up to heavier weight.
Good stuff bro keep it up.
davidmma
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Yea bro I've been getting stronger today I had a great workout.
davidmma
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So I did back today. Folli 2 caps pre and 1 rebirth in am. Then another rebirth post
Deadlift 185 lbs (24) this was tough but I did it taking mini breaks. After the 18th rep.
Pull ups bodyweight (20) same here
Seated rows 120lbs (24)
Bent over rows 110lbs (24)
Good mornings 95lbs (24)
I felt great through out the workout. I felt a good pump. Also I want to mention I do feel stronger throughout the workouts. I
Deadlift 185 lbs (24) this was tough but I did it taking mini breaks. After the 18th rep.
Pull ups bodyweight (20) same here
Seated rows 120lbs (24)
Bent over rows 110lbs (24)
Good mornings 95lbs (24)
I felt great through out the workout. I felt a good pump. Also I want to mention I do feel stronger throughout the workouts. I
davidmma
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Rebirth and folli are really kicking in now .
Squat 205 (24)
Leg press (20)
Lunges w barbell (12) ea. Leg 135lbs
D bell Bicep curls 30 (16)
Hammer curls 40 (20)
Skull crushers 80 (18)
Rope pushdowns 72 (18) 2 sets
I had a good workout then ran for a mile but overall I felt great I was able to push through the reps with more ease.
Squat 205 (24)
Leg press (20)
Lunges w barbell (12) ea. Leg 135lbs
D bell Bicep curls 30 (16)
Hammer curls 40 (20)
Skull crushers 80 (18)
Rope pushdowns 72 (18) 2 sets
I had a good workout then ran for a mile but overall I felt great I was able to push through the reps with more ease.
vujade
Well-known member
that will be great to see how you ended up..... did you take bloodwork before starting PCT..?
abformulations
Legend
Hopefully the sickness didnt change your hormone levels. The flu can disrupt the endocrine system.another bummer.
Guess well keep our fingers crossed.
Beat me to it.
Lets just see.
abformulations
Legend
Can't wait. Post before and after results together if possible to compare.
vujade
Well-known member
I'd like to see your before's as well...to see how it compares to my before and afters..
davidmma
Member
Well i got sick a week or so into the run . To clarify I do not do gear so I was just trying the product . It still have like almost 3 wks left so I Will continue running it tomorrow.
davidmma
Member
Yes sir I keeping my fingers crossed.
vujade
Well-known member
Do you know what Total Test was before you started..? 448 seems a little low for someone 27.
Mine didnt look like that until I was about 37.
How dd you Estodiol look..?
davidmma
Member
Yes I know when I saw that I got a little sad man but that explains maybe why I was feeling very lethargic and not wanting to do anything. No I didn't know and I will checke on that. I still have like 20 some days on the bottle left so I will finish it then I will have labs done again
vujade
Well-known member
448 is low for you age, but Im sure its still within the lower range of normal. Its not like its mine was when I came off cycle @ 67
hopefully you can get your levles boosted up higher. Are you running any test boosters along with Rebirth..?
davidmma
Member
448 is low for you age, but Im sure its still within the lower range of normal. Its not like its mine was when I came off cycle @ 67
hopefully you can get your levles boosted up higher. Are you running any test boosters along with Rebirth..?
No not at the moment just follidrone. I think they will go up. Before I got sick I was feeling rebirth and folli kick in. Which test booster can I run w rebirth
davidmma
Member
448 is low for you age, but Im sure its still within the lower range of normal. Its not like its mine was when I came off cycle @ 67
hopefully you can get your levles boosted up higher. Are you running any test boosters along with Rebirth..?
Oh wow thats crazy but look now hopefully you'll get back to normal if not higher
vujade
Well-known member
Viron would be a great choice. So would DAA. You could even stack them because they work on different mechanisms to achieve results.
Hopefully I will at least get back to normal. Which for me @ 45 is about 400..
davidmma
Member
I will see if I can purchase one of them. Maybe viron. And hopefully you will bro .
davidmma
Member
Ok today I worked out legs after a long hiatus. I took my 2 caps of folli and 1 cap rebirth pre wrk. I also still have 18 days left of rebirth so I have to make it count.
Squats 135 (16) 185(12) 205(10)
Deadlift 135(16) 185 (12).
Leg extension 110(18) 130(14) 130(14).
Calf machine 190(20) x 4
Today guys I actually woke up by 6:00.
Squats 135 (16) 185(12) 205(10)
Deadlift 135(16) 185 (12).
Leg extension 110(18) 130(14) 130(14).
Calf machine 190(20) x 4
Today guys I actually woke up by 6:00.
brundel
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448 is low/mid. Not great for a 27 year old. This indicates that something is up.
I had expected it to be sort of low because you were sick when tested so I think most likely once you recover levels will rise again.
It would have been wise to test estrogen levels because generally when test levels are suppressed estrogen is elevated and lowering it will help.
It would have been good to see LH as well because this way we can figure out why things are low.
I had expected it to be sort of low because you were sick when tested so I think most likely once you recover levels will rise again.
It would have been wise to test estrogen levels because generally when test levels are suppressed estrogen is elevated and lowering it will help.
It would have been good to see LH as well because this way we can figure out why things are low.
brundel
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448 is low for you age, but Im sure its still within the lower range of normal. Its not like its mine was when I came off cycle @ 67
hopefully you can get your levles boosted up higher. Are you running any test boosters along with Rebirth..?
I didnt know you were 67! This is a HUGE factor with regards to your endocrine health. Most guys at 67 have pretty low T.
Do you have Pre cycle labs so we know if you got back to norm?
I was thinking your T levels would rise into the 900-1000 range like in some of our testing. Probably not gonna happen lol.
davidmma
Member
Yea i am worried I won't lie the next test I take I will ask for all that to be included. I do need to get to the bottom of this
vujade
Well-known member
Im not 67. Im 45. I said my test level was something ike 67 when i came off cycle
My normal range in in the low 400's....
davidmma
Member
Im not 67. Im 45. I said my test level was something ike 67
Well i cant wait to see your results. I am going to purhase viron. Which website should i buy them from.
vujade
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Good people with good prices and good customer service. Plus i think Koi has a $5 off promo code in his signature
so you can get it for even cheaper. Plus if you spend $75 you get shipping for half price...
brundel
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Im not 67. Im 45. I said my test level was something ike 67 when i came off cycle
My normal range in in the low 400's....
Geeeez man. I was thinking oh great....his natty test is like 12 lol.
45 is considerably more resiliant in the endocrine department and the balls are still working. I feel alot better about it.
brundel
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I think they have Follidrone 10$ off right now and you might be able to use a coupon code as well.
ucheoma
Active member
Cant really infer anything from this one test as t levels can be erratic even for a 20 yr old, particularly if you've had a bout of flu which can wreak havoc with t levels. I personally felt it was odd to take labs right after you had flu. Have you ever had T labs before? If so what were your readings?
Would be good to see your post labs. How long are you running Rebirth for and how many weeks have you run so far?
Would be good to see your post labs. How long are you running Rebirth for and how many weeks have you run so far?
vujade
Well-known member
abformulations
Legend
Yea me too. I was like damnnn.
abformulations
Legend
Yea koi is king on pimpin that $5 promo lol. Talk to him
davidmma
Member
I'll check it out I am also guns purchase viron.
davidmma
Member
Never took labs on my own. I did it for the reason that I wanted to see where I stood. I still have 18 days left of rebirth and follidrone. I will also do it again after the final day. I might add on viron I just purchased it a few minutes ago.
ucheoma
Active member
Look forward to your next labs. My one comment on introducing Viron at this stage is you're introducing another variable so it becomes harder to attribute any eventual improvements in test levels to Rebirth. Just an observation...
Just looked at your first post to confirm your objectives: to gain strength and cut fat. So to be fair you didn't set out to boost test. Given your objectives and the other accompanying supplements you're taking Im not sure what you're expecting of Rebirth which is a SERM primarily targeted at users on PCT (which you aren't)?
Just looked at your first post to confirm your objectives: to gain strength and cut fat. So to be fair you didn't set out to boost test. Given your objectives and the other accompanying supplements you're taking Im not sure what you're expecting of Rebirth which is a SERM primarily targeted at users on PCT (which you aren't)?
davidmma
Member
I know. But I guess now I have to definitely boost test . And you are right I will wait on using viron for some other time.
brundel
Board Sponsor
Unfortunately the labs are not likely reliable as you were sick when you ran them.
If this was your normal levels I would be concerned and you would probably want to do something to change them. I think levels will probably rise though on their own.
Since we dont know what estrogen levels are or LH levels are or SHBG is or free t is we dont really know whats happening.
Could be that free T is 250.
Probably not but my point is things might be fine if free T was high, estro was low and LH was normal.
When you re run labs test these if you can-
Total Test
Free test
E2
total estrogen/serum
SHBG
LH
Until we know if illness effected it and what other ranges are we are only speculating with limited information.
If this was your normal levels I would be concerned and you would probably want to do something to change them. I think levels will probably rise though on their own.
Since we dont know what estrogen levels are or LH levels are or SHBG is or free t is we dont really know whats happening.
Could be that free T is 250.
Probably not but my point is things might be fine if free T was high, estro was low and LH was normal.
When you re run labs test these if you can-
Total Test
Free test
E2
total estrogen/serum
SHBG
LH
Until we know if illness effected it and what other ranges are we are only speculating with limited information.
davidmma
Member
I will ask for that for sure on my next labs
abformulations
Legend
Yea those are the important ones
davidmma
Member
So today went great worked out chest for today I did inlince bench press135(12) 205(8)x3 dumbbell and the same in Bench press . Dumbell flat presses 70(12)x4
Dips body weight 15 reps 4sets. Pushups 25x 4sets. I felt good today with energy even if I slept late yesterday I was able to cruise through the workout. I felt good really able to push through the reps without a spotter. I don't feel as lazy as I did before so that's good news.
Dips body weight 15 reps 4sets. Pushups 25x 4sets. I felt good today with energy even if I slept late yesterday I was able to cruise through the workout. I felt good really able to push through the reps without a spotter. I don't feel as lazy as I did before so that's good news.