Dave's Newest bulk into cut for show. AAS, SLIN and GH

I have a ton of SD sitting in my closet right now
(Thanks to superbeast :)

I am debating throwing it in te end if my blast with some low dose anavar...we will see. I f**king love SD, and with test it's god like
 
technique88 said:
I have a ton of SD sitting in my closet right now (Thanks to superbeast :) I am debating throwing it in te end if my blast with some low dose anavar...we will see. I f**king love SD, and with test it's god like
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I'm gonna blast it with deca and dbol. 50mg dbol 10mg sd and since I've never used deca I'm undecided on dose.
 
Hyde said:
C'mon now, Chris - you know as well as I it's in the dosing (& the bloods) - I'm on 45mg epi/75mg halo atm, peeing crystal clear. Halo drops out mid wk 3-4, epi goes to 60mg wks 5&6, DMZ is a mild 30mg (more for recomp) & the LMG is 60mg - it's literally just enough to lube my joints since I'll be balls deep in epistane. You're looking at 60 Epistane/30 Dimeth as far as liver load, which for me is totally fine on 750mg TUDCA (so sayeth my bloodwork). The LMG & 4dhea are low doses, and there will be plenty of enzymes for decent conversion as epi & dmz are active already. The 4dhea is literally just for ~150mg/wk trt, as I'll be totally shutdown about the 3-4wk mark when I introduce it. If I use the Fluoxymesterone, it will be in lieu of the DMZ & LMG, & it's only 20mg for brutal workouts - 40mg is your typical pre-contest for a bodybuilder for Pete's sake, & this is typically alongside winny or such. It's not that I don't think they'll work great - there's a reason all Pros inject. But I'm not ready to make the blast/cruise commitment, & I think if I go dark there's a decent chance that's where I'd put myself. My cycles never exceed 8wks atm; the longer I stay on the faster I'll be at a point where my HPTA isn't worth a f#ck on it's own & trt will be mandatory to keep gains. I know where my usage will go, but I'm not trying to accelerate that until I make that decision for myself. You seem like a nice guy, but I don't think you understand a lot of the ph/ds compounds. Take superdrol for example - you're touting how lame it is compared to turina, yet almost everyone else will verify sd is the superior compound (& much harsher). Your gyno was rebound - SD on no test is gonna have your estro very low once it suppresses you, & boy is it gonna fly back when your body is trying to reach homeostasis. Not everybody is in a family/job situation to do this the illegal way - you mentioned your hotass gf even is against you pinning. Injectables, assuming you can get a non-contaminated non-bunk source, will always be superior to orals. But people have their reasons, & they're not always because they're uneducated. That's what I'm afraid of lol
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I know and I get it, but for less money and better more keepable gains u could run a 6-8 week test prop cycle.
And yeah they arnt doing anything immediate that is detectable as damage but long term there is no telling.
I'm just saying its time, u can control AAS use just as u can ph/ds use. U will feel better, get better results, and save a lot if money. I'd say order 5 vials of test prop and start it as soon as it comes in along with just ur first stack of halo/epi, I wouldn't steer u wrongs if ur worried about pinning that's cool, we all were. But it's really not bad. I'm just looking out for u. I wouldn't let my actual brother run that set up, I don't want u running if.
 
^^^ Straight up bro. Mad respect for that post. That's some bro love and honesty right there.
 
csa2179 said:
I know and I get it, but for less money and better more keepable gains u could run a 6-8 week test prop cycle.
And yeah they arnt doing anything immediate that is detectable as damage but long term there is no telling.
I'm just saying its time, u can control AAS use just as u can ph/ds use. U will feel better, get better results, and save a lot if money. I'd say order 5 vials of test prop and start it as soon as it comes in along with just ur first stack of halo/epi, I wouldn't steer u wrongs if ur worried about pinning that's cool, we all were. But it's really not bad. I'm just looking out for u. I wouldn't let my actual brother run that set up, I don't want u running if.
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or skip the orals and do 6-8 weeks of test p and mast p.
 
My coach is happy with condition. Blood work is clean and I'm back on cycle monday. Same doses and compounds
 
DangerDave said:
Nice. That's a nice basic anabolic dose. Plus no worries about prolactin too.
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That's what I was thinking. Never used it. Pretty pumped about using it just because if it's awesome reputation. Still taking a bit of b6 as a precaution for prolactin. Prolly pop 20mg nolva eod unless I get super soggy then I'll bring on my AI. Doubt I'll see much though.


DangerDave said:
My coach is happy with condition. Blood work is clean and I'm back on cycle monday. Same doses and compounds
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Bad ass. Good to hear clean bloods. Especially with a larger cruise dose. It's about to get real.
 
Thanks bros. I'm pumped! 10 weeks out. Should have pics up in a day. He wants pictures today after shoulders and biceps. So it will actually be legit poses not swelfie pics
 
I go dry and bare fist it. I want it to feel like an old broad that drives a semi for a living is giving me a handi.

Hahaha
 
superbeast668 said:
That's what I was thinking. Never used it. Pretty pumped about using it just because if it's awesome reputation. Still taking a bit of b6 as a precaution for prolactin. Prolly pop 20mg nolva eod unless I get super soggy then I'll bring on my AI. Doubt I'll see much though. Bad ass. Good to hear clean bloods. Especially with a larger cruise dose. It's about to get real.
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hey don't use nolva for that, get primi run it at a low dose from the start of the cycle. It's cheap and at .1cc u won't get any sides and it will keep everything in check. Nolva would stop estro from being able to bind. Forma surge would actually work at 400mg. It's amazing the difference between 400mg and 600mg.
 
hardwork25 said:
Two things. 1. Yes 2. I literally just fight my dong like it's a heavyweight bout with Tyson. Right hook, jab, jab, uppercut.
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**** yes, the girlfriend got done ideas from this post
 
csa2179 said:
hey don't use nolva for that, get primi run it at a low dose from the start of the cycle. It's cheap and at .1cc u won't get any sides and it will keep everything in check. Nolva would stop estro from being able to bind. Forma surge would actually work at 400mg. It's amazing the difference between 400mg and 600mg.
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Formastane is a f*ing joke. You want a dry, side-less compound to stack in & help stay tight, fine, but that crap is worthless for controlling e. Sorry, I just get pissed when I see companies like BLR pimping it like it's some miracle estro-control mechanism. It's not; it's a dry compound with a low enough molecular weight for good TD application. End rant :censored:
 
Hyde said:
Formastane is a f*ing joke. You want a dry, side-less compound to stack in & help stay tight, fine, but that crap is worthless for controlling e. Sorry, I just get pissed when I see companies like BLR pimping it like it's some miracle estro-control mechanism. It's not; it's a dry compound with a low enough molecular weight for good TD application. End rant :censored:
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I generally use formaron. But I've for some good results using it. I don't know if they changes there formula because I haven't used it in like 2 years but. It's the same concept as using mast to hell control sides from tren. I have found formastane to be great when used properly. But again I haven't used it in over 2 years and I wouldn't doubt they diluted the product. I run mast e pretty much year round
 
csa2179 said:
hey don't use nolva for that, get primi run it at a low dose from the start of the cycle. It's cheap and at .1cc u won't get any sides and it will keep everything in check. Nolva would stop estro from being able to bind. Forma surge would actually work at 400mg. It's amazing the difference between 400mg and 600mg.
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Forma is crap. 50 bucks a bottle, 8 pumps is 400. Lasts like 1.5 weeks. That's when it becomes pro hormonal as well to the 6chloro compound. If I see prolactin sides I'll use my caber. Nolva will suit me just fine to avoid gyno. I'll use exem for any further e2 control ( bloat and such). I don't want to crush estro. With decas 20% conversion rate I should be just right not touching AI.

Just to keep it real I'm literally following a cycle layout from dr William llewellyn's book. Just gonna stay on longer than 10 weeks and possibly run up to 900mg ew depending on sides and growth.
 
superbeast668 said:
Forma is crap. 50 bucks a bottle, 8 pumps is 400. Lasts like 1.5 weeks. That's when it becomes pro hormonal as well to the 6chloro compound. If I see prolactin sides I'll use my caber. Nolva will suit me just fine to avoid gyno. I'll use exem for any further e2 control ( bloat and such). I don't want to crush estro. With decas 20% conversion rate I should be just right not touching AI. Just to keep it real I'm literally following a cycle layout from dr William llewellyn's book. Just gonna stay on longer than 10 weeks and possibly run up to 900mg ew depending on sides and growth.
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I'm almost 5 weeks in and I haven't touched an AI. I eat extremely clean so I am not bloated at all. Nips are fine too. So far my libido is great and I am making awesome gains so I am very hesitant to use an AI. If I don't have to I won't. Masteron should be here soon and I will slowly introduce it to my cycle. I definitely prefer the method of feeling out your body opposed to using ancillaries you may not need.
 
technique88 said:
I'm almost 5 weeks in and I haven't touched an AI. I eat extremely clean so I am not bloated at all. Nips are fine too. So far my libido is great and I am making awesome gains so I am very hesitant to use an AI. If I don't have to I won't. Masteron should be here soon and I will slowly introduce it to my cycle. I definitely prefer the method of feeling out your body opposed to using ancillaries you may not need.
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Sounds solid bro. You got good advice somewhere down the line hahaha
 
technique88 said:
I'm almost 5 weeks in and I haven't touched an AI. I eat extremely clean so I am not bloated at all. Nips are fine too. So far my libido is great and I am making awesome gains so I am very hesitant to use an AI. If I don't have to I won't. Masteron should be here soon and I will slowly introduce it to my cycle. I definitely prefer the method of feeling out your body opposed to using ancillaries you may not need.
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Exactly what I'm doing. Maybe as I continue to lean out I'll pour some mast into the fire.


F*ck I just ate a boat load of food and I'm starving.
 
DangerDave said:
True dat! I'm loving mine. I'm starving at 3600
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You guys are so lucky... I'm literally starving at 1800-2000. but still gaining muscle and losing fat at about .5-.75lb/wk. God I love tren.
 
DangerDave said:
Thanks bros. I'm pumped! 10 weeks out. Should have pics up in a day. He wants pictures today after shoulders and biceps. So it will actually be legit poses not swelfie pics
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Wtf? lol...
I had all my 'toys' lined up last night, waiting on some nudes........................
I stocked up on batteries, the whole works!!!
WHERE'S THE NUDES DAVE?!?!
Faaak...............
 
Magdalena said:
Wtf? lol...
I had all my 'toys' lined up last night, waiting on some nudes........................
I stocked up on batteries, the whole works!!!
WHERE'S THE NUDES DAVE?!?!
Faaak...............
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Soooo yeah pics are today. Picked up this cute little girl and well... got busy doing "extra" cardio. Sorry to let you down Mags. Tonight or tomorrow. Sorry but hey my weakness?? Not fast food or junk food... vagina. My coach laughed and said ok cool.
 
Magdalena said:
Starving, eh? Ur body is in a fat burning mode :) Tough it out. U won't b disappointed :)
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oh I know! Makes me happy to know I didn't kill my metabolism.


DangerDave said:
True dat! I'm loving mine. I'm starving at 3600
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rub it in some more dick! That's like... One more meal than me lol

booneman77 said:
You guys are so lucky... I'm literally starving at 1800-2000. but still gaining muscle and losing fat at about .5-.75lb/wk. God I love tren.
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Bro what are your stats?! 1800 sounds like a god awful deficit. Not trying to be that guy but maybe we can get you burning quicker at less of a deficit. We 're all fairly smart with the diet thing I'd like to think.

Magdalena said:
Wtf? lol... I had all my 'toys' lined up last night, waiting on some nudes........................ I stocked up on batteries, the whole works!!! WHERE'S THE NUDES DAVE?!?! Faaak...............
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Yeah I wasted a good boner on him. Cialis and all. :-/
 
DangerDave said:
Soooo yeah pics are today. Picked up this cute little girl and well... got busy doing "extra" cardio. Sorry to let you down Mags. Tonight or tomorrow. Sorry but hey my weakness?? Not fast food or junk food... vagina. My coach laughed and said ok cool.
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Ha ha ha.....
I forgive u, only cause I had an awesome leg sess last night , still weak as fk but I tried deadz at 195lbs, 4 sets, 8,6,4,4 reps...... No stabbing pain in my chest... :). The 2units/day r helping....
Anyways..................
My hands r fkn numb today, from elbows down..
I really gave it my best to grip on to that fkn bar...
It was a session of purely killer joy....
Squats, weighted lunges, leg press, jump box(deep jumps) and a few other things, lol....(evil laugh....)

Enjoy ur sexy time now, lol...
I know everyone responds differently to show prep, but I cramped like a b!tch in the 6th week out, n it stopped a week out...n I was drinking 5L of water, taking extra potassium n a bunch of other sups, but those cramps ( legs, neck etc..)....
They sure let u know u r alive, bahaha.....
 
Magdalena said:
Ha ha ha.....
I forgive u, only cause I had an awesome leg sess last night , still weak as fk but I tried deadz at 195lbs, 4 sets, 8,6,4,4 reps...... No stabbing pain in my chest... :). The 2units/day r helping....
Anyways..................
My hands r fkn numb today, from elbows down..
I really gave it my best to grip on to that fkn bar...
It was a session of purely killer joy....
Squats, weighted lunges, leg press, jump box(deep jumps) and a few other things, lol....(evil laugh....)

Enjoy ur sexy time now, lol...
I know everyone responds differently to show prep, but I cramped like a b!tch in the 6th week out, n it stopped a week out...n I was drinking 5L of water, taking extra potassium n a bunch of other sups, but those cramps ( legs, neck etc..)....
They sure let u know u r alive, bahaha.....
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That's awesome! Thanks for the forgiveness. I ain't looking forward to the cramps at all. I use straps because my grip strength doesnt exist anymore since the 2nd month of GH.
 
superbeast668 said:
Bro what are your stats?! 1800 sounds like a god awful deficit. Not trying to be that guy but maybe we can get you burning quicker at less of a deficit. We 're all fairly smart with the diet thing I'd like to think.
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5'10" 197lb ~13%bf right now. Running tren/prop 420/150 mg EW on my 5th wk now. I've been slowly gaining about 1/2lb or so per week while obv cutting so I really can't complain about the results. Just sucks eating so little. I'm gonna run another week or two then I'll have to change things up for pct. I usually maintain around 2300 or maybe a bit more so my deficit really isn't overly aggressive. Always open to advice tho
 
DangerDave said:
I know poor Mag. She was all hot and ready and I left her hanging.
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What gets me more hot, is the fact that U r 10 weeks out!!!! ha ha ha .......;)
In all seriousness , I'm very excited for u.. Time is gonna fly by...... Once u hit that 6 week mark, anything u eat will show on stage, lol.....u r gonna kill it!!!!! I have no doubt!!!!!
Oh, lol, plus u get to b back stage with all the hot n fit girls, ha ha......
It's so much fun!!!
 
booneman77 said:
5'10" 197lb ~13%bf right now. Running tren/prop 420/150 mg EW on my 5th wk now. I've been slowly gaining about 1/2lb or so per week while obv cutting so I really can't complain about the results. Just sucks eating so little. I'm gonna run another week or two then I'll have to change things up for pct. I usually maintain around 2300 or maybe a bit more so my deficit really isn't overly aggressive. Always open to advice tho
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Ok, i think you could get away with more in all seriousness. I started my cut at like 2500 cals at 250lbs. I bumped up to roughly around 3k-i was maybe 242 when i bumped 3 weeks ago. as of this morning after i pooped i was 224. i know a bit is water. a bit is glycogen. but since my diet was fairly clean to begin with i cant say that it all was. and the mirror doesnt lie...

cant give exacts on everything that i've been doing, as i've paid for these services and well honestly, its proprietary. But, when i bumped to 3k my fat loss SERIOUSLY accelerated. i mean big time. maybe try bumping to around 2300 to start on lift days and leave 2k on non lift days or something along those lines IF your willing to try. Maybe even 2500/2300. obv what you're doing is working for you ATM so i wouldnt say you absolutely have to, nor would i ever say that. just a mere suggestion, thought out loud if you will. it may help immensely, you may get fat on it. :shrug:
 
So my vday gift to myself? 100Mg of var a day starting next week till show. BOOM! I love myself
 
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