After the one on June 14th will be done until December. Just kept adding a meet trying to hit all my goals and hoping this last one it will happen.Congratulations on the meet! Well done Sir!
I thought you were taking 25 weeks after this meet to recover, train and grow, or is that after the next one?
So the plan for this meet is to gain around 15+lbs, granted will be a lot of fat, and come in at the top of 198lb weight class. Went back and forth if I wanted to do it since each pound gained is about a weeks worth of dieting to take it off. The only goal remaining is to PR my wraps squats, 429lbs currently, and with such a short time there is only a few options to gain strength. Adding size/ weight is one of them and figured it is worth it short term to get fat again.Congrats Pack! What the plan for bodyweight at next meet?
This was awesome to read bro. I'm glad the meet went well even with the piss poor sleep, that'll kill anyone's performance but that's when we dig in and go hard
That pull looked solid
Congrats on the meet PR! That's awesome that you were able to push through and nail it.
That last pull was all grit, btw! And that’s what this sport is, a lot of times. Excited to see your next meet, because your training is working for you.
Thanks all. Hoping can close it out with a squat PR in June.Congrats on a fantastic meet!! you're still raising the bar!
ahahaha I find this super relatable. I almost always lift better in a bro session, especially with strangers, than solo.
This is phenomenal, great numbers!!
Super common in all sports. I've been watching Full Swing and a lot of other sports documentaries and hearing these guys talk about how they eventually went to getting VRBO's etc so they could try to create their normal home routine while on the road. Of course, these guys are competing for a couple million bucks a week, flying private jets etc, but the idea is the same... travelling to compete is hard! really wears on you and you gotta accept it and find those little hacks to create consistency. I don't travel for sports anymore but even on business trips I find myself trying to keep my normal bed time/alarm time in the morning so my body maintains some sort of consistency for brain power.
If you put on 15lbs and don’t PR I’d be amazed. I’d expect at least 2lbs/lb gained, bare minimum. And I’m just talking doing this fast, short term. You would be in an energy surplus the entire time, could handle a bit more volume, and be gaining leverage over time.Thanks all. Hoping can close it out with a squat PR in June.
That is what I am thinking to. Only 11lbs short last meet so it is there. Another plus is both bench/ deads will also benefit from the gain.If you put on 15lbs and don’t PR I’d be amazed. I’d expect at least 2lbs/lb gained, bare minimum. And I’m just talking doing this fast, short term. You would be in an energy surplus the entire time, could handle a bit more volume, and be gaining leverage over time.
Just don’t let the belly get in the way of your dead setup!That is what I am thinking to. Only 11lbs short last meet so it is there. Another plus is both bench/ deads will also benefit from the gain.
I hope the elbows come around sooner than later. Whenever mine flare it up it seems to be maybe 2 to 4 weeks and I haven't really discovered a rhyme or reason, except when I'm leaned out a lot they get worse. When I took a break from training squats I definitely had a hard time getting both the elbows and shoulders into position but obviously that's not the issue for you.
Give those joints some love
As the week went on feeling better but pain in the elbows is there still but def a lot better. Left knee is bothering me but doing squats was fine since with weight on the back doing everything to protect it compared to normal life and just moving around. Right shoulders is bothersome but at least not a painfully as a the week before. This last meet definitely took a lot out of me.I hope everything starts feeling better for you.
Definitely from the last meet. Hopefully will be fine in a week or two.pulls are looking good, hopefully the knee is just a fluke. when I doubled down on my quad work this winter I found a couple days where my knee was janky but mostly only on hack or v squats so I kept changing my stance to figure out if it was a form issue. I think in the end of the day it was actually tightness from the quads for me. I hope yours is simple like that.
Definitely going to start again using them when the pain first starts. Hopefully once healed up though wont be an issue anymore.your bench is looking great! someday I might add some sleeves to the stable. my buddy from time to time throws his on when the elbow flares up and they seem to help him a LOT
The upper back should generally have some rounding in the thoracic for a strong puller, and will move out of flexion at the start to allow a complete lockout - it’s the lumbar that needs to stay locked in place during the lift. If you watch him right after he’s set his hip height & packed his lats before the pull starts, that area above and below his belt stays lined up quite well.Looks like the back is a little rounded but could just be some big ass erectors too.
Thanks. Really trying to zero in on my setup. Think because I am so wide in stance now everything seems off. Mess around every session with stance width and wider seems better.The upper back should generally have some rounding in the thoracic for a strong puller, and will move out of flexion at the start to allow a complete lockout - it’s the lumbar that needs to stay locked in place during the lift. If you watch him right after he’s set his hip height & packed his lats before the pull starts, that area above and below his belt stays lined up quite well.
Some guys like KK famously even pulled with flexion already in the lumbar, BUT they always maintained that or moved towards extension under the load. If you pull and the lumbar flexes more under load than your starting position, that’s when you can really get hurt.
The 315 was rushed a little think that is why. Took a little more time/thought for 365I thought everything actually looked more in rhythm on the heavier pull than the lighter one lol. My buddy Ian looks really goofy squatting anything under about 315 then all the sudden at 405+ it's the most beautiful squat in the world. my son is the same way. 135 is just too light for him and he gets squirrely. at about 275 he starts to look dynamite.
Just trying to get setup/ form down pat. Here on out once a week. Think at this point got it down as good as I can. Next week will push hard, 4 weeks out, go light at 3 weeks out and around 2 weeks one finally heavy.So why are you maxing out your deadlift 48 hours apart again?
Technique is optimally trained at 70-80%. Heavy enough to actually transfer, but light enough to think through with deliberate adjustments. You are pushing 90+%, which is circa-maximal effort. I am making this point purely so you can consider the additional recovery demands/potential for downstream effect.Just trying to get setup/ form down pat. Here on out once a week. Think at this point got it down as good as I can. Next week will push hard, 4 weeks out, go light at 3 weeks out and around 2 weeks one finally heavy.
That makes more sense using those percentages. Always figured had to be close to failure to see where the break down is but at 80% seems a lot.better than ME.Technique is optimally trained at 70-80%. Heavy enough to actually transfer, but light enough to think through with deliberate adjustments. You are pushing 90+%, which is circa-maximal effort. I am making this point purely so you can consider the additional recovery demands/potential for downstream effect.
That makes more sense using those percentages. Always figured had to be close to failure to see where the break down is but at 80% seems a lot.better than ME.
In PL isn't it common to intentionally never miss a lift, or try an unplanned PR unless you pretty much know you have it. Outside of competition or a max testing at the end of a training block of course. That way you engrain success and good practice rather than teaching your body how to fail or break form through too many missed max effort attempts. Plus handling weight you know you can is going to lower the risk of injury and overtraining substantially.ME can show weak links or where technique fails, but it’s not how you reinforce those needed improvements. It’s just a way to reinforce maximum neurological recruitment, to build total body brute strength. The Conjugate Method rotates variations for this to manage absolute load, prevent accommodation, and help avoid overuse injuries. They found just repeatedly working up on the same lift goes stale pretty quickly, even regressing.
IDK what the science says but I've been telling my boy that one thing I notice in my lifting partner is that him missing a rep is FAR FAR more taxing, then him getting a rep. if he attempts a 270 bench and misses it, he is absolutely DONE. He will not hit 265, 260, etc. after that. so I often try to throttle him back on his jumps and ensure that he has successful lifts when he's pushing it. I've been doing the same for my boy. (trying at least). like hey, you hit 215. why don't you hit some singles there, or hit 220 rather than risking a failed 225 rep again? becuase he's built very similar, and a failed rep usually trashes the rest of his session.In PL isn't it common to intentionally never miss a lift, or try an unplanned PR unless you pretty much know you have it.
Makes total sense now. One is to see the weak link and the other is all about technique.ME can show weak links or where technique fails, but it’s not how you reinforce those needed improvements. It’s just a way to reinforce maximum neurological recruitment, to build total body brute strength. The Conjugate Method rotates variations for this to manage absolute load, prevent accommodation, and help avoid overuse injuries. They found just repeatedly working up on the same lift goes stale pretty quickly, even regressing.
In PL isn't it common to intentionally never miss a lift, or try an unplanned PR unless you pretty much know you have it. Outside of competition or a max testing at the end of a training block of course. That way you engrain success and good practice rather than teaching your body how to fail or break form through too many missed max effort attempts. Plus handling weight you know you can is going to lower the risk of injury and overtraining substantially.
Well, it’s mainly about lifting at maximal intensity to maintain and build total body power, with the benefit being at these extremely high efforts you can often see some break down/weakness exposing.Makes total sense now. One is to see the weak link and the other is all about technique.
Well said!It’s only common in EXPERIENCED powerlifting. As an ego-based endeavor, the folks who naturally are drawn to heavy lifting have to learn this over time. Missing is not ideal in any fashion.
Well, it’s mainly about lifting at maximal intensity to maintain and build total body power, with the benefit being at these extremely high efforts you can often see some break down/weakness exposing.
If you struggle at the lockout of a variation benchpress, you can infer that your primary accessory work for a bit should probably be something biased towards lockout or tricep strength. Or if your squat variations are way lower than your GM type work might suggest, you can probably infer you need to focus on building up the legs more than your low back, and select accordingly.
Some of the other guys have been doing McCleod Flies to open up their shoulders before benching. Looking at the movement, I would think it would also be very effective opening you up for bar placement in a back squat. Might be worth a shot. I am going to try them on my next chest session for a few warm ups before starting the session. See if that loosens up my right side a bit. It often takes extra sets to loosen up enough to drop as low as the left side. So I have a slightly shorter stroke on the right side in iso-lateral movements until opened up. Hoping that will do the trick ahead of time.May 18th, 2025 (Sunday)
Average Weekly Weight: 200lbs
Session #1
Squats;**Cerberus Sleeves
5 sets 2 reps 205lbs, 225lbs, 250lbs, 275lbs, 300lbs
Pioneer Heavy Wraps;
5 sets 2 reps 315lbs, 340lbs, 365lbs, 390lbs, 415lbs
Session #2
Leg Press;
10 sets 13 reps
With my elbows and right shoulder hurting haven't been able to place the bar how I like or get my grip width. Both were hurting but not as bad and was finally able to get into a good starting position. Next week is a back off week and then will take my last heavy single before the meet.
When is the meet in question?So had to make a decision and decided to not do the meet. Last 2 nights got barely any sleep and things are just off. Been barley getting any lifting in and to much going on outside the gym. Probably Sun/ Mon will do a ME dead session and hopefully can PR like it would have been the meet. Elbows, wrist and right shoulder are feeling a lot better so that is a plus.
McCleod Flies