Dante Trudel takes on topical Ecdy?

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Saw that this morning and feel like we had a discussion on here at some point about that idea, but how it wasn't feasible.

I'll be honest I tuned out of most of the ecdy (and various similar ingredients) quite awhile back for a variety of reasons, but I am always interested in learning more anyways. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Interesting, so unlike other similar things like TD laxogenin, this have a local effect... If 20HE is readily available, someone could try to do a transdermal using salvo.
 
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I saw a thread on another forum (PM) where @Mike Arnold suggested to Dante that the two of them could use their collective knowledge and resources to come up with some pretty groundbreaking products (not necessarily 20HE/ecdy). I'd love to see that happen.
 

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Does the Hi tech cyclostomes stuff is not good enough to transport edyc or turk?
 

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I saw a thread on another forum (PM) where @Mike Arnold suggested to Dante that the two of them could use their collective knowledge and resources to come up with some pretty groundbreaking products (not necessarily 20HE/ecdy). I'd love to see that happen.
It was the other way around. :) I've been considering it.
 
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Does the Hi tech cyclostomes stuff is not good enough to transport edyc or turk?
I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
 
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I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
What's your daily dosage on that? 1 cap?
 

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I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
That is pretty high praise. What have you noticed from it?
 
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That is pretty high praise. What have you noticed from it?
Enhanced glycogen storage and muscle strength/endurance. It also raises my e2 into a healthy range (mine is low naturally), and that brings emotional stability and everything else normal e2 in men should be. It’s like dbol lite...That’s a joke, but at the same time, from what I’ve heard about dbol, maybe it is dbol extra lite! lol
 
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Enhanced glycogen storage and muscle strength/endurance. It also raises my e2 into a healthy range (mine is low naturally), and that brings emotional stability and everything else normal e2 in men should be. It’s like dbol lite...That’s a joke, but at the same time, from what I’ve heard about dbol, maybe it is dbol extra lite! lol
Good feedback. I'm going to give this a shot.
 

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Enhanced glycogen storage and muscle strength/endurance. It also raises my e2 into a healthy range (mine is low naturally), and that brings emotional stability and everything else normal e2 in men should be. It’s like dbol lite...That’s a joke, but at the same time, from what I’ve heard about dbol, maybe it is dbol extra lite! lol
Do you have blood work to backup the E2 rise?
 
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Yes, sensitive e2 naturally 17 or below. 37 when using 2 caps per day.
I have the same issue with naturally low e2. Mine use to sit in the teens for years now I have it in the 20s and feel much better. I also have low TT though that sits around 320.

I haven’t tried the product you mentioned. Maybe I would respond well to it too?
 
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I have the same issue with naturally low e2. Mine use to sit in the teens for years now I have it in the 20s and feel much better. I also have low TT though that sits around 320.

I haven’t tried the product you mentioned. Maybe I would respond well to it too?
How did you get yours in the 20’s? I’m on TRT as well and keeping it between 500-600 still has my e2 low, but if I go any higher on TRT my Hemoglobin and hematocrit skyrocket.
Ecdy has literally been lifechanging for me in that e2 regard. From wanting to go to the ER from palpitations, to not caring at all. I finally have a healthy objective viewpoint on my own health, and not ridiculous health anxiety.
 
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I have the same issue with naturally low e2. Mine use to sit in the teens for years now I have it in the 20s and feel much better. I also have low TT though that sits around 320.

I haven’t tried the product you mentioned. Maybe I would respond well to it too?
How did you get yours in the 20’s? I’m on TRT as well and keeping it between 500-600 still has my e2 low, but if I go any higher on TRT my Hemoglobin and hematocrit skyrocket.
Ecdy has literally been lifechanging for me in that e2 regard. From wanting to go to the ER from palpitations, to not caring at all. I finally have a healthy objective viewpoint on my own health, and not ridiculous health anxiety.
 
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How did you get yours in the 20’s? I’m on TRT as well and keeping it between 500-600 still has my e2 low, but if I go any higher on TRT my Hemoglobin and hematocrit skyrocket.
Ecdy has literally been lifechanging for me in that e2 regard. From wanting to go to the ER from palpitations, to not caring at all. I finally have a healthy objective viewpoint on my own health, and not ridiculous health anxiety.
Taking 25 mg DHEA with 25 mg pregnenolone orally ED or EOD.
 
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Taking 25 mg DHEA with 25 mg pregnenolone orally ED or EOD.
DHEA always makes me feel out of it and otherwise just bad, but I haven’t tried preg yet. Do you use sublingual or just swallow a tab?
 

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The natural injectables sound more interesting to me. Any chance those will see the light of day?
 
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I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra

Sounds interesting ??????????
 
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The natural injectables sound more interesting to me. Any chance those will see the light of day?

I'm curious about this, as well. Would also be interested in injectable Epi and Apigenin. I wonder if Mike Arnold ever consider this for his MA Research line.
 
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DHEA always makes me feel out of it and otherwise just bad, but I haven’t tried preg yet. Do you use sublingual or just swallow a tab?
I just take 1 tablet of Diesel Raw Test and that has me covered with 25mg dhea and 25mg preg. in it with some boron and long jack.
 
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I just take 1 tablet of Diesel Raw Test and that has me covered with 25mg dhea and 25mg preg. in it with some boron and long jack.
I could see how low dosing that would be beneficial. Diesel test is g2g!
 
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@Chuck Diesel & I thank you for your business !!
 
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Is ECDY something that you need to cycle off of, or can you run it long term since it is natural and supposedly doesn't have a significant impact on hormonal pathways? I love a good cycle like everyone else, but I prefer setting myself up to remain anabolic naturally for the long-term.
 
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Is ECDY something that you need to cycle off of, or can you run it long term since it is natural and supposedly doesn't have a significant impact on hormonal pathways? I love a good cycle like everyone else, but I prefer setting myself up to remain anabolic naturally for the long-term.
Good question.
 

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Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra

Sounds interesting ??????????
I would give this a run but expensive considering all ecdy products have not done much for me over the past 20+ years they have been around. Lol.
 

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Actually I take that back found it for a ok price, but not sure it's worth it. Current reviews sound good but I can't dose above 2 caps a day and not sure that is enough.
 
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Actually I take that back found it for a ok price, but not sure it's worth it. Current reviews sound good but I can't dose above 2 caps a day and not sure that is enough.
Where did you find it cheaper???
And yes, 2 caps should be plenty.
 

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Not cheaper- TGB supps and from their store. Again not great price but maybe worth a try.
 
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the lab a-bolic4 could be something to look into
Just started this. Dante is big on flavonoids and thinks they have great potential. I like the combination with ecdy. Mass Maxx XT takes a similar approach.
 

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