Dante Trudel takes on topical Ecdy?

Resolve10

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Saw that this morning and feel like we had a discussion on here at some point about that idea, but how it wasn't feasible.

I'll be honest I tuned out of most of the ecdy (and various similar ingredients) quite awhile back for a variety of reasons, but I am always interested in learning more anyways. 🤷‍♂️
 

UNX

Member
Awards
2
  • First Up Vote
  • Established
Interesting, so unlike other similar things like TD laxogenin, this have a local effect... If 20HE is readily available, someone could try to do a transdermal using salvo.
 
rubberring

rubberring

Well-known member
Awards
2
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
I saw a thread on another forum (PM) where @Mike Arnold suggested to Dante that the two of them could use their collective knowledge and resources to come up with some pretty groundbreaking products (not necessarily 20HE/ecdy). I'd love to see that happen.
 

alvin1

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Does the Hi tech cyclostomes stuff is not good enough to transport edyc or turk?
 

Mike Arnold

Board Sponsor
Awards
3
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • RockStar
I saw a thread on another forum (PM) where @Mike Arnold suggested to Dante that the two of them could use their collective knowledge and resources to come up with some pretty groundbreaking products (not necessarily 20HE/ecdy). I'd love to see that happen.
It was the other way around. :) I've been considering it.
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Does the Hi tech cyclostomes stuff is not good enough to transport edyc or turk?
I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
 
BigGame84

BigGame84

Well-known member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • RockStar
I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
What's your daily dosage on that? 1 cap?
 

THEstudent

Member
Awards
0
I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
That is pretty high praise. What have you noticed from it?
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
That is pretty high praise. What have you noticed from it?
Enhanced glycogen storage and muscle strength/endurance. It also raises my e2 into a healthy range (mine is low naturally), and that brings emotional stability and everything else normal e2 in men should be. It’s like dbol lite...That’s a joke, but at the same time, from what I’ve heard about dbol, maybe it is dbol extra lite! lol
 
Monte Brogan

Monte Brogan

Member
Awards
1
  • Established
Enhanced glycogen storage and muscle strength/endurance. It also raises my e2 into a healthy range (mine is low naturally), and that brings emotional stability and everything else normal e2 in men should be. It’s like dbol lite...That’s a joke, but at the same time, from what I’ve heard about dbol, maybe it is dbol extra lite! lol
Good feedback. I'm going to give this a shot.
 

user567

Active member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
Enhanced glycogen storage and muscle strength/endurance. It also raises my e2 into a healthy range (mine is low naturally), and that brings emotional stability and everything else normal e2 in men should be. It’s like dbol lite...That’s a joke, but at the same time, from what I’ve heard about dbol, maybe it is dbol extra lite! lol
Do you have blood work to backup the E2 rise?
 
Afi140

Afi140

Legend
Awards
4
  • Best Answer
  • First Up Vote
  • RockStar
  • Established
Following
 
ELROCK

ELROCK

Well-known member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • RockStar
  • First Up Vote
Yes, sensitive e2 naturally 17 or below. 37 when using 2 caps per day.
I have the same issue with naturally low e2. Mine use to sit in the teens for years now I have it in the 20s and feel much better. I also have low TT though that sits around 320.

I haven’t tried the product you mentioned. Maybe I would respond well to it too?
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
I have the same issue with naturally low e2. Mine use to sit in the teens for years now I have it in the 20s and feel much better. I also have low TT though that sits around 320.

I haven’t tried the product you mentioned. Maybe I would respond well to it too?
How did you get yours in the 20’s? I’m on TRT as well and keeping it between 500-600 still has my e2 low, but if I go any higher on TRT my Hemoglobin and hematocrit skyrocket.
Ecdy has literally been lifechanging for me in that e2 regard. From wanting to go to the ER from palpitations, to not caring at all. I finally have a healthy objective viewpoint on my own health, and not ridiculous health anxiety.
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
I have the same issue with naturally low e2. Mine use to sit in the teens for years now I have it in the 20s and feel much better. I also have low TT though that sits around 320.

I haven’t tried the product you mentioned. Maybe I would respond well to it too?
How did you get yours in the 20’s? I’m on TRT as well and keeping it between 500-600 still has my e2 low, but if I go any higher on TRT my Hemoglobin and hematocrit skyrocket.
Ecdy has literally been lifechanging for me in that e2 regard. From wanting to go to the ER from palpitations, to not caring at all. I finally have a healthy objective viewpoint on my own health, and not ridiculous health anxiety.
 
ELROCK

ELROCK

Well-known member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • RockStar
  • First Up Vote
How did you get yours in the 20’s? I’m on TRT as well and keeping it between 500-600 still has my e2 low, but if I go any higher on TRT my Hemoglobin and hematocrit skyrocket.
Ecdy has literally been lifechanging for me in that e2 regard. From wanting to go to the ER from palpitations, to not caring at all. I finally have a healthy objective viewpoint on my own health, and not ridiculous health anxiety.
Taking 25 mg DHEA with 25 mg pregnenolone orally ED or EOD.
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Taking 25 mg DHEA with 25 mg pregnenolone orally ED or EOD.
DHEA always makes me feel out of it and otherwise just bad, but I haven’t tried preg yet. Do you use sublingual or just swallow a tab?
 

Danksta710

Active member
Awards
3
  • First Up Vote
  • Established
  • RockStar
The natural injectables sound more interesting to me. Any chance those will see the light of day?
 
Rocket3015

Rocket3015

Legend
Awards
5
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
I don’t know about their product, but Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra is cyclodextrin complexed and I most likely won’t ever come off. Best supplement I’ve ever used for a few reasons.
Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra

Sounds interesting ??????????
 
Monte Brogan

Monte Brogan

Member
Awards
1
  • Established
The natural injectables sound more interesting to me. Any chance those will see the light of day?

I'm curious about this, as well. Would also be interested in injectable Epi and Apigenin. I wonder if Mike Arnold ever consider this for his MA Research line.
 
ELROCK

ELROCK

Well-known member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • RockStar
  • First Up Vote
DHEA always makes me feel out of it and otherwise just bad, but I haven’t tried preg yet. Do you use sublingual or just swallow a tab?
I just take 1 tablet of Diesel Raw Test and that has me covered with 25mg dhea and 25mg preg. in it with some boron and long jack.
 
SkRaw85

SkRaw85

Well-known member
Awards
3
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • RockStar
I just take 1 tablet of Diesel Raw Test and that has me covered with 25mg dhea and 25mg preg. in it with some boron and long jack.
I could see how low dosing that would be beneficial. Diesel test is g2g!
 
Rocket3015

Rocket3015

Legend
Awards
5
  • RockStar
  • Legend!
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
@Chuck Diesel & I thank you for your business !!
 
thegodfather

thegodfather

Well-known member
Awards
1
  • Established
Is ECDY something that you need to cycle off of, or can you run it long term since it is natural and supposedly doesn't have a significant impact on hormonal pathways? I love a good cycle like everyone else, but I prefer setting myself up to remain anabolic naturally for the long-term.
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Is ECDY something that you need to cycle off of, or can you run it long term since it is natural and supposedly doesn't have a significant impact on hormonal pathways? I love a good cycle like everyone else, but I prefer setting myself up to remain anabolic naturally for the long-term.
Good question.
 

mase1

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Iron Forged’s Ecdy Ultra

Sounds interesting ??????????
I would give this a run but expensive considering all ecdy products have not done much for me over the past 20+ years they have been around. Lol.
 

mase1

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Actually I take that back found it for a ok price, but not sure it's worth it. Current reviews sound good but I can't dose above 2 caps a day and not sure that is enough.
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Actually I take that back found it for a ok price, but not sure it's worth it. Current reviews sound good but I can't dose above 2 caps a day and not sure that is enough.
Where did you find it cheaper???
And yes, 2 caps should be plenty.
 

mase1

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Not cheaper- TGB supps and from their store. Again not great price but maybe worth a try.
 
GreenMachineX

GreenMachineX

Well-known member
Awards
4
  • Established
  • First Up Vote
  • Best Answer
  • RockStar
Oh yeah, that’s where I get it from too.
 
Monte Brogan

Monte Brogan

Member
Awards
1
  • Established
the lab a-bolic4 could be something to look into
Just started this. Dante is big on flavonoids and thinks they have great potential. I like the combination with ecdy. Mass Maxx XT takes a similar approach.
 

Similar threads


Top