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DangerDave's Long Azz Cycle before Contest Prep

Gerbil said:
Stil a bit confused. Looking at your last pic doesnt look like you have gyno at all.
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Its there man. Those pics were first thing in the morning when gyno is smallest. In the afternoon it shows up. Its has shrunk considerably and I might only be on letro for another 2 weeks and then start my cycle early
 
you cant really see it when i get gyno, but it hurts like a mother ****er. ive had lumps the size of a quarter before, but everyone says thay cant see it.
 
That shyt scares the hell out of me bros. I'm runnin an AI and wonder if it would've hit me by now or not. Never been prone to it but you can't say never
 
I'm gonna sub just so I know your still alive lol kill it over there DD! Log looks great, and you'll crush this cycle and your goals!! :)
 
Dave, Dave, Dave... quit being a turd
 
Have any of you guys ever gotten a abscess? I figured from the amount you all pin there must be "that one time".
 
thyrod said:
Have any of you guys ever gotten a abscess? I figured from the amount you all pin there must be "that one time".
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Not yet :-). I'm pretty clean about it though. Washed hands fresh sterile pins alcohol etc. I always use the same sources as well. It helps.
 
Got an abscess from bold ace, took a week to clear up. It was a sterile abscess, and it was just from it being such a harsh substance
 
Been reading a lot about it and what to do since my first pin date is coming up. The source i got has gone hiatus, so thats why im a bit worries. Gotta order some 18g just incase, I also have alot of anti biotics so I should be g2g. Secondly is 1" g2g? I also have 1,5 and ill be using 25g
Sorry DD for thread jacking.
 
thyrod said:
Been reading a lot about it and what to do since my first pin date is coming up. The source i got has gone hiatus, so thats why im a bit worries. Gotta order some 18g just incase, I also have alot of anti biotics so I should be g2g. Secondly is 1" g2g? I also have 1,5 and ill be using 25g
Sorry DD for thread jacking.
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1" is fine. That's what I used an no issues. Was able to pin glutes, ventrogluts, quads, and delts with no prob.
 
1" is all i use. i wouldnt worry about an abscess. just dont pin a **** load in a tiny muscle
 
I've used 25g 1" all the way in on all the spots I've done(side delts, quads, glutes) no problems at all.
 
Update...

Ok bros. Its been an intense week in country but life is settling in. I got a wicked sinus infection but am getting over it now. I am assuming the letro crushed my estrogen along with my immune system. My gyno is almost non existent now.

1. Im tapered back down to 2mg ed letro fora few days andthen to 1mg and then .5mg and should be on aromasin mid next week. Still using the rest of a bottle of formestane as well.
2. Still pinning 300mg Test E every sunday.
3. Looks like my cycle will push up 1 week after I am sure gyno wont pop back up.
4. DESTROYED my legs yesterday here it is....

Squat A2G
135x15
225x14
275x14
225x13
225x12
(45 second rest plus a 10 second flex, had some monster veins show up i have never seen)

Smith split squat step back.
135x8 per leg
135x8 per leg
135x8 per leg
135x6 per leg
(60 second rest between sets)

Leg press
400x14
20 sec rest
400x12
20 sec rest
400x10
20 sec rest
400x8
20 second stretch and flex

Db walking lunge
45x10 per leg
45x10 per leg
45x6 per leg.

After leg press i was dry heaving and almost puked. They dont have a leg extension machine so it seems i am in Nazi Germany... dont know what to use instead of my glorious leg extensions.

As far as pins.. i use 1" 25g to pin and usually a 22g to draw. My bodyfat is decently low so i went down to 1" needles a few months back.

Today is an off day and tomorrow starts the serious training.
 
DangerDave said:
Update...

Ok bros. Its been an intense week in country but life is settling in. I got a wicked sinus infection but am getting over it now. I am assuming the letro crushed my estrogen along with my immune system. My gyno is almost non existent now.

1. Im tapered back down to 2mg ed letro fora few days andthen to 1mg and then .5mg and should be on aromasin mid next week. Still using the rest of a bottle of formestane as well.
2. Still pinning 300mg Test E every sunday.
3. Looks like my cycle will push up 1 week after I am sure gyno wont pop back up.
4. DESTROYED my legs yesterday here it is....

Squat A2G
135x15
225x14
275x14
225x13
225x12
(45 second rest plus a 10 second flex, had some monster veins show up i have never seen)

Smith split squat step back.
135x8 per leg
135x8 per leg
135x8 per leg
135x6 per leg
(60 second rest between sets)

Leg press
400x14
20 sec rest
400x12
20 sec rest
400x10
20 sec rest
400x8
20 second stretch and flex

Db walking lunge
45x10 per leg
45x10 per leg
45x6 per leg.

After leg press i was dry heaving and almost puked. They dont have a leg extension machine so it seems i am in Nazi Germany... dont know what to use instead of my glorious leg extensions.

As far as pins.. i use 1" 25g to pin and usually a 22g to draw. My bodyfat is decently low so i went down to 1" needles a few months back.

Today is an off day and tomorrow starts the serious training.
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nice work out. make that gyno your bitch
 
just wanted to add that im bigger than you, im more ripped than you, and im better than you. get on my level, its lonely up here.
 
Update-
Back/biceps
IM BACK!! Brutal back and bicep, was in the zone. Got this sinus infection beat for sure. Heres the numbers...

BB bent rows
135x14
185x12
185x12
135x14
135x20/8/4/5 3sec contraction drop set. 10 second rest after failure

Rack deads
225x14
315x12
335x12
245x12
135x18 3 sec contraction at top

Pullups (wide grip)
Bwx5 max sets with 60 second break

Tbar fst(3sec contraction at top and 10 second flex or stretch)
45x12 flex
45x12 stretch
45x12 flex
45x12 stretch
45x12 flex
45x12 stretch
45x12 flex/stretch
(Dry heaved and layed on the ground for 5 minutes afterwords, never had such a brutal/violent/painful pump like that)

Biceps-
Db curls (nice and slow with a squeeze)
35x12,12,12
25x14,12

BB 21s
55lbs x 3 sets
45lbs x 2 sets

Db drop set
35x12/25x12/15x15
35x8/25x10/14x15

Overall i felt great and was "in the zone".

Next week i start my 14 day anabolic prime before I start my 16 week cycle. I will be hitting eod 2adays and 1 session days inbetween while eating at a 400 calorie deficit. Then begins the anabolic phase with AAS and 2 a days 6 days a week until I feel under recovered, then rest 2 days and back to it. :)
 
DangerDave said:
Update-
Back/biceps
IM BACK!! Brutal back and bicep, was in the zone. Got this sinus infection beat for sure. Heres the numbers...

BB bent rows
135x14
185x12
185x12
135x14
135x20/8/4/5 3sec contraction drop set. 10 second rest after failure

Rack deads
225x14
315x12
335x12
245x12
135x18 3 sec contraction at top

Pullups (wide grip)
Bwx5 max sets with 60 second break

Tbar fst(3sec contraction at top and 10 second flex or stretch)
45x12 flex
45x12 stretch
45x12 flex
45x12 stretch
45x12 flex
45x12 stretch
45x12 flex/stretch
(Dry heaved and layed on the ground for 5 minutes afterwords, never had such a brutal/violent/painful pump like that)

Biceps-
Db curls (nice and slow with a squeeze)
35x12,12,12
25x14,12

BB 21s
55lbs x 3 sets
45lbs x 2 sets

Db drop set
35x12/25x12/15x15
35x8/25x10/14x15

Overall i felt great and was "in the zone".

Next week i start my 14 day anabolic prime before I start my 16 week cycle. I will be hitting eod 2adays and 1 session days inbetween while eating at a 400 calorie deficit. Then begins the anabolic phase with AAS and 2 a days 6 days a week until I feel under recovered, then rest 2 days and back to it. :)
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Dave how many calories and how many grams of protein you'll be consuming?
 
You can replace quad extensions with front squats, at least thats what I do. It's not as much isolation but I feel like front squats are a good end of workout burnout for quads.
 
Yeah, I love front squats. I love so much that's how I originally hurt my knee
 
MIGUEL1J said:
Dave how many calories and how many grams of protein you'll be consuming?
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Right now I am in the 3400 calorie range. I get around 300g of protein not including 2 shakes 1 of 24g and another post workout of 48g. I am eating quite a bit of carbs right now and moderate fat.
Monday (your guys sunday night because I am 8 1/2 hours ahead of east coast) I start my anabolic prime. I will be consuming around 200g of protein (not including shakes) 300g Carbs and 75g Fat puting me at right about 2700 calories and a 500 deficit from maintenance. This will deprive my body during hard 6 days a week sessions for 2 weeks totaling 12 sessions. This results in my body fighting to replace burnt energy and fighting to recover, not having enough calories will cause me to start being under recovered leading into the next workout. Right before I go catabolic around the 15th day I load up all my gear and flood my body with 900mg of test and 900mg EQ as well as jumping to 3500 calories. This results in a rush of nutrients that my body was deprived of for almost 2 weeks, the gear will speed up recover resulting in over compensation of glycogen storage and muscle repair. This is the same theory (anyone who has done a massive cut knows) that professional bodybuilders use coming out of contest. Because your body was so close to extreme catabolism the switch to anabolism is so drastic that your body over compensates with muscle repair and growth to prevent that in the future. This is also a reason you gain so heavy and fast at the beginning of a cycle. Your body was looking for that extra "push" to grow very fast and hard.

Hope that makes sense. I have a book on that goes pretty in depth on the subject and can copy paste some of the chapter if you need more clarification.
 
DangerDave said:
Hope that makes sense. I have a book on that goes pretty in depth on the subject and can copy paste some of the chapter if you need more clarification.
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I'd be interested in what the book is called.
 
I love bulking, I don't care if its lean or all out. Getting prepared for this cut sucks. Reducing cals has been a mother ****er. I'm jealous of ur bulk bro.

I tested my tren the other day as its from the source that shall go unnamed and I got to say that ****s on point. It was full of binders so I had to do some filtering and sterilizing but it turned out looking amazing. 50mg had me destroying some vagina... Was a little worried as it didn't have the bite that most tren does. But it was only 50mg mix with some other ****. So when I blast with 100mg I think I'm going to be an insane person for the month.
 
DangerDave said:
Right now I am in the 3400 calorie range. I get around 300g of protein not including 2 shakes 1 of 24g and another post workout of 48g. I am eating quite a bit of carbs right now and moderate fat.
Monday (your guys sunday night because I am 8 1/2 hours ahead of east coast) I start my anabolic prime. I will be consuming around 200g of protein (not including shakes) 300g Carbs and 75g Fat puting me at right about 2700 calories and a 500 deficit from maintenance. This will deprive my body during hard 6 days a week sessions for 2 weeks totaling 12 sessions. This results in my body fighting to replace burnt energy and fighting to recover, not having enough calories will cause me to start being under recovered leading into the next workout. Right before I go catabolic around the 15th day I load up all my gear and flood my body with 900mg of test and 900mg EQ as well as jumping to 3500 calories. This results in a rush of nutrients that my body was deprived of for almost 2 weeks, the gear will speed up recover resulting in over compensation of glycogen storage and muscle repair. This is the same theory (anyone who has done a massive cut knows) that professional bodybuilders use coming out of contest. Because your body was so close to extreme catabolism the switch to anabolism is so drastic that your body over compensates with muscle repair and growth to prevent that in the future. This is also a reason you gain so heavy and fast at the beginning of a cycle. Your body was looking for that extra "push" to grow very fast and hard.

Hope that makes sense. I have a book on that goes pretty in depth on the subject and can copy paste some of the chapter if you need more clarification.
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I did something very similar for about 14 days before my cycle as well. Really went low on my carbs and cals in general, very high intensity workouts. I felt that this cause a huge spike in my metabolism and energy when I started my cycle and the muscle I built in a 4 week cycle has all stayed so I attribute much of this to this method
 
Update-
Forgot to write down yesterdays chest workout but I do remember there was 10 sets for upper, 10 middle and 10 sets of fly movements with 5 sets of pre exhaustion.

Chemical updates-
Letro is down to 1mg ed and I brought in 12.5mg aromasin that I will be running up to the cycle then back onto letro.

Tomorrow (sunday) is another 300mg injection of Test E

I am looking at some interesting modifications to include some different compounds as well as bridging into my cycle, it might extend out past the 16 weeks. We will see.

Todays workout-
Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps, Abs

Arnold press-
55x14,12,10 40x12, 11

Side Raises (3 second neg)
20x14, 12, 12

Front Raise (3 second neg)
30x10, 11, 20x12

Rear Delt Raise (2 second hold)
15x14, 12, 12

Db Shrugs (4 second squeeze)
85x15, 14, 14

Biceps-
Db Curls (3 second neg)
30x14, 12, 12, 12

21s drop set
55lbs, 50lbs, 45lbs

Reverse BB curls
35x14, 14, 14

Triceps-
Close Grip Bench (3 second neg)
135x14, 205x10, 185x10, 155x12, 135x11

Skull crushers (slight incline)
75x15, 14, 14

Standing DB extensions (reps are per arm)
20x10, 10

Abs-
Decline situps 25reps/2 sets
Side crunch 25reps each side with 2 second squeeze
Bicycle 25 reps with 1 second hold each side

Very brutal. I had only 60 second rest between every set and exercise so it was pretty fast paced.kept a nice solid pump the whole time.
 
DangerDave said:
Update-
Forgot to write down yesterdays chest workout but I do remember there was 10 sets for upper, 10 middle and 10 sets of fly movements with 5 sets of pre exhaustion.

Chemical updates-
Letro is down to 1mg ed and I brought in 12.5mg aromasin that I will be running up to the cycle then back onto letro.

Tomorrow (sunday) is another 300mg injection of Test E

I am looking at some interesting modifications to include some different compounds as well as bridging into my cycle, it might extend out past the 16 weeks. We will see.

Todays workout-
Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps, Abs

Arnold press-
55x14,12,10 40x12, 11

Side Raises (3 second neg)
20x14, 12, 12

Front Raise (3 second neg)
30x10, 11, 20x12

Rear Delt Raise (2 second hold)
15x14, 12, 12

Db Shrugs (4 second squeeze)
85x15, 14, 14

Biceps-
Db Curls (3 second neg)
30x14, 12, 12, 12

21s drop set
55lbs, 50lbs, 45lbs

Reverse BB curls
35x14, 14, 14

Triceps-
Close Grip Bench (3 second neg)
135x14, 205x10, 185x10, 155x12, 135x11

Skull crushers (slight incline)
75x15, 14, 14

Standing DB extensions (reps are per arm)
20x10, 10

Abs-
Decline situps 25reps/2 sets
Side crunch 25reps each side with 2 second squeeze
Bicycle 25 reps with 1 second hold each side

Very brutal. I had only 60 second rest between every set and exercise so it was pretty fast paced.kept a nice solid pump the whole time.
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Killing it bro....it's almost like your on drugs....oh wait!
 
PalmFist said:
Volume...
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Volume looks pretty normal to me, or at least it's about the same as what I do. He has 17 sets shoulders, 10 sets bis, and 10 sets tris.
 
Here are 2 quick pics. Quads are developing nicely, I see an improvement at least for separation of the muscles. Upper chest is starting to develop and waist is thinning. I am only cruising right now so it should be getting interesting soon. FST-7 is the sh*t!
 

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