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FWIW it think it's been helping me lately. On my last bloods my E2 was 59 so my doc put me on an extra mg of arimidex per week, from 1 to 2mg. As it happens it seems i started leaning up in the last 2-3mo. I have been lowering my junk food a bit for sure but it seems way easier now than in the past, i think it's due to lower E2.

My first 4mo on TRT before i had my first bloods reviewed, i was a bit disappointed i wasn't losing fat like i expected, TRT was supposed to help with that and i wasn't seeing it. Then i saw my E2 at 146 and i was like damn. Don't feel bad you are still leaner than i am, i am hoping to make some good progress in the next 3 mo with rad140 kicking in.

When i first started TRT, during my first visit before i was prescribed, i was at 251 with 31% fat. It's only been in the last couple months i have started leaning up, i dipped into the 220s once this week so far. Im pretty confident E2 manipulation is helping a lot.
The reason I don't take ai unless I need to is for the long-term negative health effects on bone and heart health. Anabolics already fluck with your cholesterol as it is, arimidex will make that much worse. With that being said though towards the tail end of this I will be using more exemestane, I prefer that over adex as I feel it has less detrimental health effects
 
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my shoulder is so torn up and locked.. you think the bcp and tb 500 would help with this type of issue?
Depends on what's actually injured. I don't think it's going to increase your range of motion if it's something that you need a chiropractor to do versus an actual injury that could heal
 
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Depends on what's actually injured. I don't think it's going to increase your range of motion if it's something that you need a chiropractor to do versus an actual injury that could heal
I think its a mobility issue for sure.. but a lot of it stems from breaking my shoulder in HS football. It was reset off kilter by a skosh` and doesn't operate the same as the other side.. (which BTW I have dislocated a few times) it pops cracks and feels over all terrible. I have really been fighting it this last yr. and can no longer raise my arm over head with out acute pain.

I think its because the last couple yrs I was really trying to build some strength in there.. Because of my shoulder injuries I have never had a big OHP. towards the end of last yr I was (finally) pressing my 220 lb body weight for good reps but still painful looking back I probably shouldn't have blasted them so hard. Im getting pretty old now (48) soo.. im re learning how to be lighter lifter and accept it.
 
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I think its a mobility issue for sure.. but a lot of it stems from breaking my shoulder in HS football. It was reset off kilter by a skosh` and doesn't operate the same as the other side.. (which BTW I have dislocated a few times) it pops cracks and feels over all terrible. I have really been fighting it this last yr. and can no longer raise my arm over head with out acute pain.

I think its because the last couple yrs I was really trying to build some strength in there.. Because of my shoulder injuries I have never had a big OHP. towards the end of last yr I was (finally) pressing my 220 lb body weight for good reps but still painful looking back I probably shouldn't have blasted them so hard. Im getting pretty old now (48) soo.. im re learning how to be lighter lifter and accept it.
That's definitely a smart idea. I'm kinda doing the same. Trying to get more out of lighter weights at the moment so I don't get hurt again. But sooner or later il let my ego back in to destroy me lol
 
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By the way guys. What can I do to make this thread better. Should I list my workouts in detail. Do you wanna see more of what I'm eating. Or is everyone cool with the general conversation and the real updates and progress pics every sunday
 
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I appreciate the group I have here, happy that no1 is pissing anyone off and there's no arguments or bullshit going on in here
 

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That's definitely a smart idea. I'm kinda doing the same. Trying to get more out of lighter weights at the moment so I don't get hurt again. But sooner or later il let my ego back in to destroy me lol
Im just glad i can lift. Im 42 now, when i was 30 i pinched a nerve in my neck from a herniation + 2 bulges. Left arm and pec were half numb, really messed up my lifting. Very discouraging, i quit for about 9 years and got totally out of shape. Even the bouncing from running would cause disc inflammation so i was fairly sedentary. Gave up exercise but eating habbits didn't change much.

Been back at it hard for a good couple years now but only really made good progress for the last year. Added some lasting muscle and dropped some body fat. This should make you feel good lol, here's a before and after. 2017 before i started back at the gym vs today. Im about 5'11". Old pic is somewhere around 255/260lbs, today im maybe low 230s.
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Im just glad i can lift. Im 42 now, when i was 30 i pinched a nerve in my neck from a herniation + 2 bulges. Left arm and pec were half numb, really messed up my lifting. Very discouraging, i quit for about 9 years and got totally out of shape. Even the bouncing from running would cause disc inflammation so i was fairly sedentary. Gave up exercise but eating habbits didn't change much.

Been back at it hard for a good couple years now but only really made good progress for the last year. Added some lasting muscle and dropped some body fat. This should make you feel good lol, here's a before and after. 2017 before i started back at the gym vs today. Im about 5'11". Old pic is somewhere around 255/260lbs, today im maybe low 230s.View attachment 194355
That's a huge improvement. I also have a pinched nerve in the neck. It comes and goes. The last time it acted up was early this month and it was probably the worst its ever been. But seems to be good right now
 

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That's a huge improvement. I also have a pinched nerve in the neck. It comes and goes. The last time it acted up was early this month and it was probably the worst its ever been. But seems to be good right now
Funny you mention that, i must have slept wrong last night and can't tilt my head to the right side AT ALL. It's a real PITA, or neck hehe. Inflammation is usually what gets me, much worse when im dehydrated. I don't take ibuprofen though as it supposedly interferes with the cox2 process :ROFLMAO: . I have repopped it twice over the years, now i make sure my head is tilted backwards whenever im doing anything with vertical pressure, and it works to stabilize the herniation, i've even been able to do OHP again.

Was a weird thing though those nerves, my left upper peck was fine but the lower half was completely numb. Same with tricep, long head totally numb but the other two heads were fine. Nerves are unforgiving bastards.
 
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I have a numb spot where my upper chest meets my right shoulder. Never goes away. It's permanently numb in a half dollar size spot
 
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Just had a weird pain in my stomach around my belly button. Took of my shirt and my belly button looks different. Not a outie but there a little piece further out then before. I can take my finger and push it back in. It's fleshy feeling. Soooo I think I have a minor hernia. Like seriously, wtf else. My aunt's a nurse. Going to get her opinion tomorrow
 
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aint that a bunch of ****
 

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Be careful brah, pre-surgery I made my hernia worse by continuing to lift "heavy". Pretty sure Chris Bumstead did exact same thing recently. I regretted making the tear bigger.
 

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my shoulder is so torn up and locked.. you think the bcp and tb 500 would help with this type of issue?
hard to say for sure without knowing specifically what’s wrong but when you look at the MOA and how each promote healing it’s unlikely (in my opinion but I’m also no doctor) that it couldn’t be of some benefit......

each have a positive affect on joints, ligaments and bones. They reduce inflammation and speed up recovery alongside a whole host of other things. I use them as a protective measure (especially on cycle where we know our muscular strength can increase past what ligament/tendons can safely handle).

this is a decent summary if you want details (I use both as they also appear to work synergistically):

 
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Be careful brah, pre-surgery I made my hernia worse by continuing to lift "heavy". Pretty sure Chris Bumstead did exact same thing recently. I regretted making the tear bigger.
I know, that's the last thing I want, believe me. I'm going to be careful. Deadlifts and basically anything heavy is out the window. Going to get creative.

Like for chest I plan on doing a bunch of push ups to tire myself out. then do a **** ton of db flyes and once I've hit failure on theses il do my benching last for sets of 15+. I'm just going to make **** super intense with light weight. It's only for a couple of weeks. I'm gonna figure this out.

Even the clean and press I think I can turn into a light 20 rep conditioning exercise. Keep the farmer's walks super light and the distance incredibly long. But who knows. I gotta play some of this day by day.

For any reason it starts getting worse then il pull the plug. But for now I'm going to dance around it
 

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By the way guys. What can I do to make this thread better. Should I list my workouts in detail. Do you wanna see more of what I'm eating. Or is everyone cool with the general conversation and the real updates and progress pics every sunday
......nudes bro, more nudes
 
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I wanted to just do them every Sunday so there's more dramatic if a difference but ok. Il do a teaser mid week and the rest Sunday. I took some close up pictures yesterday cuz I noticed that all the veins in my arms came back as soon as I started lifting again. I'm lucky I can get vainy arms even when I'm fat so I can trick ppl to thinking I'm in shape with a tank top on lol
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Arms are at 17 in right now. It would look more impressive if my waist wasn't 35 at the moment.
 
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I will have pics Sunday that match all the pics I took on day 1 so the changes can be fairly judged
 

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I wanted to just do them every Sunday so there's more dramatic if a difference but ok. Il do a teaser mid week and the rest Sunday. I took some close up pictures yesterday cuz I noticed that all the veins in my arms came back as soon as I started lifting again. I'm lucky I can get vainy arms even when I'm fat so I can trick ppl to thinking I'm in shape with a tank top on lolView attachment 194375View attachment 194376
nice bro, looking meaty.

I’m actually the same in that I have decent vascular arms even when I’m carry extra body fat (my past as morbidly obese means my loose skin stops abs showing until I’m very lean but my arms don’t have the same issue)......

this was yesterday (whilst lifting, plus bfr and pumped though - basically everything that can be done to look decent 😂)
 

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All input is welcome right now. What are some good exercises for each bodypart that won't put a lot of pressure on my core. Arms and calves are easy. Legs I'm going to do a lot of single leg curls and extensions.

Back I'm going to burn myself out with pull ups first so I'm forced into lighter weights.
Any1 got some tips. the more I think about the clean and press thing is probably a bad idea
 
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nice bro, looking meaty.

I’m actually the same in that I have decent vascular arms even when I’m carry extra body fat (my past as morbidly obese means my loose skin stops abs showing until I’m very lean but my arms don’t have the same issue)......

this was yesterday (whilst lifting, plus bfr and pumped though - basically everything that can be done to look decent )
I don't know if I'm mixing you up with someone else but didn't you loose like 100lbs
 
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ok this is going to sound a bit weird.. I know of a guy who did this and swore by it. have you ever wore a dead lifting suit?
like an inzer power lifting type gear. he couldn't afford one of those but he instead ordered a woman's body suit for like 10 bucks. and he said it held his core in super tight. maybe Hyde has some ideas on used PL suits that you could buy.
but yeah the good suits are super expensive.
 
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ok this is going to sound a bit weird.. I know of a guy who did this and swore by it. have you ever wore a dead lifting suit?
like an inzer power lifting type gear. he couldn't afford one of those but he instead ordered a woman's body suit for like 10 bucks. and he said it held his core in super tight. maybe Hyde has some ideas on used PL suits that you could buy.
but yeah the good suits are super expensive.
It definitely sounds weird lol but I know where you're going with it. I actually plan on wearing a waist trainer with my deadlift belt strapped over it
 
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there you go perfect let us know how it worx
 

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All input is welcome right now. What are some good exercises for each bodypart that won't put a lot of pressure on my core. Arms and calves are easy. Legs I'm going to do a lot of single leg curls and extensions.

Back I'm going to burn myself out with pull ups first so I'm forced into lighter weights.
Any1 got some tips. the more I think about the clean and press thing is probably a bad idea
for back, chest supported rows tend to have less impact on the core......unless you have a specialist bar I like db’s for the range of motion
 
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Do db fly’s on floor. Not on a bench. This will save you another injury.
 
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The total gym thing. It goes from flat to a high incline. I put it 1 notch above flat
 
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Gonna go try out a few exercises to see how they feel nothing serious I just wanna see what don't make my core engaged for each bodypart. Then going to do a hour of cardio tomorrow and take my first round of progress pics.
 
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Once your elbows go past your shoulders (when done on bench) you are risking injury. I’ve felt the pain and always do them on floor now.
 
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Once your elbows go past your shoulders (when done on bench) you are risking injury. I’ve felt the pain and always do them on floor now.
I get what your saying. I usually go to about the point where the stretch feels good but doesn't hurt and then back. It's also not an exercise I usually go very heavy on for the risk of getting hurt
 
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I wouldn’t bother with a suit - the waist trainer and always wearing a snug belt makes more sense to me. And duct tape is actually a for real thing. I know a Masters Pro strongman who always lifts with a cotton ball and duct tape on over his herniated belly button. Many strongmen wear a Rehband soft/warming neoprene belt and then a hard power belt outside of that. Powerlifting doesn’t allow this, but if they did I would definitely do it for the squat. It provides a lot of the layered support of a suit under the belt without messing up your leg mobility or having to be in a god-awful suit.

Use one of these or similar, and put your belt over it directly over where your hernia is:

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Also, try to train like a pro bodybuilder. I don’t want to say like a pussy, but if you can make it easier, seated, more isolated, lighter and just focus on total volume with lower rests, you can build a terrific beach physique and avoid injury. Chase the pump and push pain thresholds with methods like loaded stretching, giant & dropsets on isolations, etc. You can build great anterior muscles doing lots of isolations and machine type or seated movement. You will still be stronger than any non-lifter and look better than a stronger athlete anyway.

Strength and bodybuilding only really overlap so much.

Fouad Abiad said he could bench 500 like a bodybuilder, but I can out-deadlift him any day of the week. Our squat for reps is nearly identical. Do you wanna look like me, or Fouad “Hoss” Abiad?? I know who I’d rather look like!
 
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I wouldn’t bother with a suit - the waist trainer and always wearing a snug belt makes more sense to me. And duct tape is actually a for real thing. I know a Masters Pro strongman who always lifts with a cotton ball and duct tape on over his herniated belly button. Many strongmen wear a Rehband soft/warming neoprene belt and then a hard power belt outside of that. Powerlifting doesn’t allow this, but if they did I would definitely do it for the squat. It provides a lot of the layered support of a suit under the belt without messing up your leg mobility or having to be in a god-awful suit.

Use one of these or similar, and put your belt over it directly over where your hernia is:

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Also, try to train like a pro bodybuilder. I don’t want to say like a pussy, but if you can make it easier, seated, more isolated, lighter and just focus on total volume with lower rests, you can build a terrific beach physique and avoid injury. Chase the pump and push pain thresholds with methods like loaded stretching, giant & dropsets on isolations, etc. You can build great anterior muscles doing lots of isolations and machine type or seated movement. You will still be stronger than any non-lifter and look better than a stronger athlete anyway.

Strength and bodybuilding only really overlap so much.

Fouad Abiad said he could bench 500 like a bodybuilder, but I can out-deadlift him any day of the week. Our squat for reps is nearly identical. Do you wanna look like me, or Fouad “Hoss” Abiad?? I know who I’d rather look like!
I completely understand the whole train like a bodybuilder thing and that's what I plan on doing. That blue waist belt in the first picture, I actually have one that's identical to that kicking around somewhere, going to wear that with my deadlift belt over it
 

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Once your elbows go past your shoulders (when done on bench) you are risking injury. I’ve felt the pain and always do them on floor now.
the foam roller allows your scapula to retract and move freely creating optimal glenohumeral joint mechanics and reducing injury risk. A bench doesn’t allow for that (unless you is one fucking wide mo fo 🤣)
 
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the foam roller allows your scapula to retract and move freely creating optimal glenohumeral joint mechanics and reducing injury risk. A bench doesn’t allow for that (unless you is one fucking wide mo fo 🤣)
Does ILS count?
 

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