Cycle advice for hdrol log

Goblue88

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Been lifting for about 5 years now and over the last few months I have been reading up on hdrol. I have decided to try it out, but I wanted some advice / feedback on how this looks.I purchased AI life support and plan on preloading that 2 weeks prior as well as run it through PCT as well.As far as the hdrol my plan is 50/50/75/75/75My question comes for PCT:aside from the life support I need some advice on what to run. I have no access to nolvadex so that isn't an option. What I was planning on using was p6 as my tbooster however after that is where I have read mixed things. I have read PES erase is necessary to run and also read reversitol is necessary.Can anyone shed a little more light on PCT please as I have seen a lot or mixed messages out there.Thanks in advance for the help
 
Goblue88 said:
Been lifting for about 5 years now and over the last few months I have been reading up on hdrol. I have decided to try it out, but I wanted some advice / feedback on how this looks.I purchased AI life support and plan on preloading that 2 weeks prior as well as run it through PCT as well.As far as the hdrol my plan is 50/50/75/75/75My question comes for PCT:aside from the life support I need some advice on what to run. I have no access to nolvadex so that isn't an option. What I was planning on using was p6 as my tbooster however after that is where I have read mixed things. I have read PES erase is necessary to run and also read be fine reversitol is necessary.Can anyone shed a little more light on PCT please as I have seen a lot or mixed messages out there.Thanks in advance for the help
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For hdrol an otc pct would fine. I would use Erase or Triazole with SnS DAA. Reduce xt is also a good addition starting week 2 of pct
 
I appreciate the advice. Here is the problem I have run into through, 2 very different opinions on it. Mw1 have you ever ran hdrol without a perscription serm?
 
Prescription? Pft
Dude research chemicals...everyone has access to serms...research chems or prescription lol no excuses
 
Goblue88 said:
I appreciate the advice. Here is the problem I have run into through, 2 very different opinions on it. Mw1 have you ever ran hdrol without a perscription serm?
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You need a full pct whenever using exogenous hormones. Also nolvadex is a very poor serm who's only purpose is fighting gyno which we now have AI's for.

Your pct should ALWAYS consist of the following:
- a serm (clomid or torem, torem being the better of the 2)
- a mild ai (transdermal formestane or arimistane)
- a test booster with the ingredient avenacosoides to boost free test
- a test booster for libido support/ test boosting
- d-aspartic acid
 
gregg1494 said:
Nolvadex is a very poor SERM... Do You even know what SERM stands for? And you do know that AIs and SERMs do completely different things, right?
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i think what he means is nolva is a poor serm for testicle recovery lol. because it kind of is when up against the other serms.

but it does its job pretty damn good at protecting the tatas

op: id suggest get any serm. i dont really give half a shet which one it is because all will work good for hdrol. why are you saying you donthave access to one? military or somethin?
 
Goblue88 said:
I thought they were prescription only which is why I said I don't have access to them
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oh god no. go read more dude. theres these things called "research chemicals" that you can buy for "research" purposes. but a lot of us buy our serms from research chem sites and use those for pct. just make sure you google any sources you find to make sure theyre legit. we arnt allowed to confirm here, but there are other sites that can and have confirmed certain sources

reason you want a serm is because it makes recovery safer and faster. meaning youll keep more of whatever you gain, and youll lower the risk of estrogen sides like gyno
 
OnionKnight said:
oh god no. go read more dude. theres these things called "research chemicals" that you can buy for "research" purposes. but a lot of us buy our serms from research chem sites and use those for pct. just make sure you google any sources you find to make sure theyre legit. we arnt allowed to confirm here, but there are other sites that can and have confirmed certain sources

reason you want a serm is because it makes recovery safer and faster. meaning youll keep more of whatever you gain, and youll lower the risk of estrogen sides like gyno
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Watevs bish lol online pharmacy... where I gets ma gears I gets my name brand serms.. and by gear I mean for the transfer case in my truck haha
 
gregg1494 said:
Nolvadex is a very poor SERM... Do You even know what SERM stands for? And you do know that AIs and SERMs do completely different things, right?
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Selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) however nolvadex does nothing to recover the hpta, it's only purpose is to prevent gyno.

Aromatase inhibitor (AI's) deactivate or kill the aromatase enzyme rendering it useless. What does this do? It prevents gyno unless of course you are running a 19-nor (progestine based compound) then you will need caber as well to prevent prolactin induced gyno.

So since we have serms like clomid or torem and we have aromatase inhibitors like formestane, aromasin, and arimistane, we now have no need for nolvadex in our pct or the nasty sides it brings with it.

I swear this is like the 10th thread I've explained this in lol.

So OP I highly advise you steer clear of nolvadex and pick up either clomid or torem as well as the other things I listed. And as the others have said just go get research chemicals from a research site, it isn't very hard to find them just make sure they are legit. I believe there used to be a very good one that either still does or used to sponsor this board.
 
Goblue88 said:
I appreciate the advice. Here is the problem I have run into through, 2 very different opinions on it. Mw1 have you ever ran hdrol without a perscription serm?
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Yes I have ~And having worked with CEL I can tell you the majority of PH users went OTC(if any pct at all...which I do not rec). Forum members make a very small % of the customer base.
or hdrol ,Epi and most non-methyls I would have no problem using OTC.
 
Ok, so I found what I was looking for, here is my final layout (I start tomorrow).

hdrol 50/50/75/75/75
life support (preloaded 1 week before)
Multi / fish oil / taurine if needed

PCT:
nolva 20/20/10/10
P6 (tbooster)
life support

my question is, I have AI erase, when should I start running it / how many weeks?
 
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