Cutting Stack for Women?

archetype1

archetype1

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Looking for a new stack to run for 6-8 weeks. Did Lean Xtreme and Synedrex for last summer and it worked well just wanted to see what else may be out there.
Thinking maybe Dexaprine and tt-33 or Alphamine and Forskolin. I like the thought of cortisol control a lot. I'm 5'3 134lbs looking to get to 122lbs. I do morning cardio for 30-45mins 3-4 days a week and lift different body parts each day during the week.

My diet plan for the 6-8 weeks is:
Meal 1
5 egg whites
1/2 cup oats

Meal 2
5 oz chicken
4 oz yams

Meal 3
5 oz Fish or Chicken
Asparagus

Meal 4
5 oz Fish or Chicken

Meal 5
Protien Shake
2 rice cakes
almond butter

Meal 6
5 egg whites or 5oz fish

Any advice on what has worked or hasnt worked is appreciated.
 
That hard part about this is you named probably the best of the best. Don't fix what worked for you. I would keep the lean xtreme and maybe switch out the synedrex with alphamine. Diet looks perfect, so you can't go wrong in your decision. That probably wasn't much help, so someone else chime in with other suggestions. Good luck!
 
honestly, I would think that with that diet + training & cardio regimen, you could drop those 12lbs in that amount of time, solely based on those parameters and w/o need for any addtl supplements
in any event -- it would not be my advice to mess with otc thyroid supplements, fwiw
 
Really only looking to add something that will help with the harder areas to lose. My last run worked well but still didn't see the results around my hips and legs I wanted even with a change in leg routine.
 
both dex and alpha will help tremendously with lower body fat and trouble areas. combine either with forskolin and whatch the fat melt off..
tt-33 is great to cycle for when you either finish your 8 weeks OR during one month of your 2 month plan. mostly though, concentrate on the most important part, diet, training and rest
 
So maybe move some carbs to later in the day...maybe start your first carbs to meal 4

but i've had a female on dexaprine and she loved it, she's a stim junkie so 1 caplet was fine for her but maybe start at half a caplet
 
Young Gotti said:
So maybe move some carbs to later in the day...maybe start your first carbs to meal 4 but i've had a female on dexaprine and she loved it, she's a stim junkie so 1 caplet was fine for her but maybe start at half a caplet
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Move carbs to later even with doing am cardio? I kept my diet the same for 6 weeks last time. Should I change it mid way through?
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
both dex and alpha will help tremendously with lower body fat and trouble areas. combine either with forskolin and whatch the fat melt off.. tt-33 is great to cycle for when you either finish your 8 weeks OR during one month of your 2 month plan. mostly though, concentrate on the most important part, diet, training and rest
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I'm really bad at the rest part. Especially when I start seeing the results I tend to want to do more. Which I think is common among everyone.
 
archetype1 said:
Move carbs to later even with doing am cardio? I kept my diet the same for 6 weeks last time. Should I change it mid way through?
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the structure of your diet looks fine
what I might consider however, would be
#1) add some more green veggies with some meals...broccoli, green beans, or even romaine salad
#2) 2x per week (ie like MON/THUR), have some extra carbs and addtl caloric intake
the former will keep you fuller (and it's just good nutrients); the latter will keep your metabolism burning and stop you from plateauing, also will help solidify existing muscle stores
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
the structure of your diet looks fine
what I might consider however, would be
#1) add some more green veggies with some meals...broccoli, green beans, or even romaine salad
#2) 2x per week (ie like MON/THUR), have some extra carbs and addtl caloric intake
the former will keep you fuller (and it's just good nutrients); the latter will keep your metabolism burning and stop you from plateauing, also will help solidify existing muscle stores
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I dont add too many vegetables to my diet for the insulin flux factor. It may sound extreme but I tend to go with what has worked before. I'm willing to give it a try though and see if the results are still the same. Also the additional carbs.......I'm sure that wouldnt hurt on leg day. Maybe I'll try that as well.
 
Meh, I'm with Snag

Add greens as the insulin impact is negligible.

Fibrous greens have few carbs as is and any that they do have get processed by the digestive system so slowly there is such a tiny impact

I have been a low carb disciple for 20 years so I speak from many years of experience. Many years ago, I was in maniac-mode w regard to carbs. What a fool I was to obsess as I did so anally.

The benefits of greens are numerous. The free-radicals u release from being a low carber and acidity from ur diet are both quelled by phytonutrient-dense and strong alkaline greens

You're really doing yourself a disservice. Let's not forget about the fiber ur missing out on.

Rant over - good luck :)

archetype1 said:
I dont add too many vegetables to my diet for the insulin flux factor. It may sound extreme but I tend to go with what has worked before. I'm willing to give it a try though and see if the results are still the same. Also the additional carbs.......I'm sure that wouldnt hurt on leg day. Maybe I'll try that as well.
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Snag just took a page out of my eating regimen.

Lower carbs daily but every week like clockwork I do a MILD-carb-binge every Wednesday and a MODERATE-carb-binge on Sundays.

snagencyV2.0 said:
#2) 2x per week (ie like MON/THUR), have some extra carbs and addtl caloric intake the former will keep you fuller (and it's just good nutrients); the latter will keep your metabolism burning and stop you from plateauing, also will help solidify existing muscle stores
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Added some spinach to meal one and six and broccoli to meal four. Going to try it and see how it goes. Still debating how to add in extra carbs. I would like to see major cutting in the first four weeks.
 
What are your total macros for the day? Do you count them? Also don't get lean Xtreme the new one sucks. Get Reduce XT from SNS for cortisol control. Also what's your lifting routine like?
 
ion26 said:
What are your total macros for the day? Do you count them? Also don't get lean Xtreme the new one sucks. Get Reduce XT from SNS for cortisol control. Also what's your lifting routine like?
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I don't count them. I'm not taking in a lot of fat but I take mct oil and fish oil.

My lifting routine is usually
Monday: chest and bis
Tuesday: legs (hamstring/glutes)
Wednesday: back and tris
Thursday: rest day/ just cardio
Friday: shoulders
Saturday: legs (quad focus)

That's fairly typical. My rest day may change depending on my schedule
 
The leaner you get the more you're going to have to start tracking your exact macros. As you lose BF/weight your maintenance calories change.
 
ion26 said:
Eat more? Wat? You mean eat less...
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whoa whoa whoaaaa
let's not get ahead of ourselves here
I understand the basic premise you are trying to infer here, but this gal already is eating somewhere in the neighborhood of ~1200 cals daily ... probably in all likelihood, part of the problem of the eventual stalling to begin with, being underfed
see when you start so low with caloric intake, you have nowhere else to go when your metabolism adapts and catches up with the change..
the ideal thing would have been to start higher, with incremental drops..
now, we simply hold the pattern, and then eventually i would up the caloric intake slightly while still keeping things clean just like above...reverse-dieting, if you will
not the funnest or easiest way to accomplish things, but certainly can be done
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
the structure of your diet looks fine
what I might consider however, would be
#1) add some more green veggies with some meals...broccoli, green beans, or even romaine salad
#2) 2x per week (ie like MON/THUR), have some extra carbs and addtl caloric intake
the former will keep you fuller (and it's just good nutrients); the latter will keep your metabolism burning and stop you from plateauing, also will help solidify existing muscle stores
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He hit what I was going to say.
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
whoa whoa whoaaaa let's not get ahead of ourselves here I understand the basic premise you are trying to infer here, but this gal already is eating somewhere in the neighborhood of ~1200 cals daily ... probably in all likelihood, part of the problem of the eventual stalling to begin with, being underfed see when you start so low with caloric intake, you have nowhere else to go when your metabolism adapts and catches up with the change.. the ideal thing would have been to start higher, with incremental drops.. now, we simply hold the pattern, and then eventually i would up the caloric intake slightly while still keeping things clean just like above...reverse-dieting, if you will not the funnest or easiest way to accomplish things, but certainly can be done
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Oh I didn't really try to count her macros, since she said she didn't even count them herself. Damn 1200 cals? If so, I completely agree with everything you said. Hopefully there isn't really any serious metabolic damage. Sometimes reverse dieting takes can take many months even years to fix a damaged metabolism...
 
Juuust so we're clear....
I knew how low the calorie count was on my plan. Hence why I said I would need to increase. I actually ended up adding more about week 5 last time I did this. I don't normally eat at such a low count. :)
 
ion26 said:
Oh I didn't really try to count her macros, since she said she didn't even count them herself. Damn 1200 cals?
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I didn't get all pinpoint, just rough ballpark from eyeballing her food choices...pretty close
archetype1 said:
Juuust so we're clear....
I knew how low the calorie count was on my plan. Hence why I said I would need to increase. I actually ended up adding more about week 5 last time I did this. I don't normally eat at such a low count. :)
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this is good news
I figured as much myself..
a lot of ppl want to just jump right into ultra-low cal intakes when they diet...simply a flawed approach IMO, there are better ways to go about it ... but - whatever works for you, and you look to be in pretty good shape by your pic and your food selections (with exception to lack of green veggies :D)
 
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