Cutting Cycle wih Havoc, need help.

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Greetings,

I'm 18 years old, 92kg, 183cm, 13% bodyfat.

My current nutrition: 1800 calories (45% carbs, 20% fat, 35% protein) (my only supplement atm is a thermogenic fat burner)

My current routine:
Back/Triceps/MISS Cardio (250 calories)
HIIT Cardio/Legs/Side Delts
Chest/Biceps/MISS Cardio (250 calories)
HIIT Cardio/Abs/MISS Cardio (250 calories)
HIIT/Legs
Shoulders/MISS Cardio (250 calories)
HIIT Cardio/Abs/MISS Cardio (250 calories)

This is the cycle I'm thinking: (first cycle btw):
Havoc: 30/30/30/30
Halodrol: 25/50/50/75
Driven Sports: Lean Xtreme: 1 pill each day

PCT:
Fusion supplements: Post Cycle Matrix: 1 capsule 3 times a day for 4 weeks.
Driven Sports: Lean Xtreme: 2 pills each day
(maybe add natural test booster if libido is low on pct)

Any opinions/suggestions? Thanks!
 
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Seriously? K

1. You are too young
2. You are too young
3. You are too young
4. At least get out of school and stop living with your parents
5. Don’t run 2 compounds as first cycle
6. Get a serm
7. You are too young
 

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I'm leaving alone btw studying abroad. Maybe Sarms are more apropriate for my age?
 
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Use a proven natural anabolic or the like. You’re 18. You should be all stoved up on natural test. Why ruin a great thing????
 
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Might want to create a new account and tell everyone you're 28 or something lol
 
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Fahk work ethic, moar druggzzzzz! Am I right?
 
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Try the teen section on bodybuilding .com
 
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Like everyone else said, you’re too young. Cutting doesn’t require anabolics anyways.
 
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Way too young
You don’t understand anything looking at cycles and pct plus that program sounds horrible.
 

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I understand that I'm way too yung! but everyone saying **** like I don't wanna work hard or something you are just stupid! I don't wanna sound cocky or anything but I'm busting my ass off everyday at the gym, workouts that most of the guys at my age atleast wouldnt be able to complete, thank you to the serious answers and lmao at the guys trying to be smart.

ALSO, at the guy saying that my program is stupid, do you want to explain why? is has been working well for me for weeks now.

Thanks!
 
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Might want to create a new account and tell everyone you're 28 or something lol
Lol I would be willing to bet 90% of the people who say they are 22-23 are really 17-18 years old lmao
 
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I understand that I'm way too yung! but everyone saying **** like I don't wanna work hard or something you are just stupid! I don't wanna sound cocky or anything but I'm busting my ass off everyday at the gym, workouts that most of the guys at my age atleast wouldnt be able to complete, thank you to the serious answers and lmao at the guys trying to be smart.

ALSO, at the guy saying that my program is stupid, do you want to explain why? is has been working well for me for weeks now.

Thanks!
Hitting most muscles only once a week
Doing way to much abs - cardio is dependent on your goal
Side delts day?
Get on a well structured program and follow it
 

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Hitting most muscles only once a week
Doing way to much abs - cardio is dependent on your goal
Side delts day?
Get on a well structured program and follow it
well my legs are behind my upper body that why i do them once a week, and side delts are because my waist is big, abs twice a week dont think is much and after my workouts im sore for days so i don't know why i shouldnt hit muscle groups once a week, maybe if i actualy decide to use ph or sarms i will start a ppl program. the one im doing now has developed my bedy very weel with good ratios.
 
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well my legs are behind my upper body that why i do them once a week, and side delts are because my waist is big, abs twice a week dont think is much and after my workouts im sore for days so i don't know why i shouldnt hit muscle groups once a week, maybe if i actualy decide to use ph or sarms i will start a ppl program. the one im doing now has developed my bedy very weel with good ratios.
Sounds like you are still getting newb gains. Don’t try and grow one thing over another atm just follow a good program and let everything grow. Get diet in check and wait a few years before you touch anything.
Before I touched AAS I got more gains from PPL than any other program. Try a few out for a month or two at a time and see what would work better for you.
Thought I read abs 3x a week - nvm the abs comment lol
 

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Sounds like you are still getting newb gains. Don’t try and grow one thing over another atm just follow a good program and let everything grow. Get diet in check and wait a few years before you touch anything.
Before I touched AAS I got more gains from PPL than any other program. Try a few out for a month or two at a time and see what would work better for you.
Thought I read abs 3x a week - nvm the abs comment lol
well thats a reply i was hoping for, im gonna start ppl next week and see how it goes.
 
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I love ppl training. We’re not trying to hate on you man; just trying to help. You should take advantage of the high testosterone that your body is capable of producing at your age instead of risking permanent suppression.
 

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Well made my own PPL program, really excited to try it out, (not excacly ppl):

Day 1: Chest Shoulder Triceps
Day 2: Legs Abs
Day 3: Back Biceps
Day 4: Chest Triceps
Day 5: Shoulders
Day 6: Legs Abs
Day 7: Back Biceps
 
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Well made my own PPL program, really excited to try it out, (not excacly ppl):

Day 1: Chest Shoulder Triceps
Day 2: Legs Abs
Day 3: Back Biceps
Day 4: Chest Triceps
Day 5: Shoulders
Day 6: Legs Abs
Day 7: Back Biceps
Mine looks like
Day 1: Push
Day 2: Pull
Day 3: Legs
Day 4: Push
Day 5: Pull
Day 6: Legs
Day 7: Rest

You should write out the workouts and reps and stick with it as well.
 

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Day 1:
Bench Press: (warm up sets to 1RM)
Incline DB Press: 4x12,10,8,6
Side Laterals: 12,10,8,6
Flat Machine Chest Press: 12,10,8,6
Single-Arm Standing DB Shoulder Press: 3x10
Cable Crossovers: 3x10-15
Cable Laterals: 3x10-15
Rope Pushdown: 3x10
OH DB Extension: 4x12,10,8,6
DB Kickback: 3x10
V-Bar Pushdown: 4x10

Day 2:
Calves 1: 5 sets
Calves 2: 3 sets
Leg Press: 5x14,12,10,8,6 (last set dropset)
DB Sumo Squat: 4x12,10,8,6
Single Verical Leg Press: 4x10-15
Leg Extensions: 4x12-15
Single-Leg Curls: 4x8-12
Stiff-Legged DL: 4x12,10,8,6
Seated Leg Curls: 3x10

Flat Bench Leg Raises: 4x25
Cable Crunches: 3x15
Russian Twists: 2x40

Day 3:
Lat Pulldown: 4x8-12
V-Bar Pulldown: 4x8-12
Pull-Ups: 2 max
Straight-Arms Pulldowns: 4x8-12
Single-Arm Machine Row: 3x10
BB Curl: 4x12-15
DB Alternating Curls: 4x8-12
DB Hammer Curls: 4x6-8

Cardio: 250 calories

Day 4:
Pec Deck: 3x10
Incline BB Bench Press: 4x12,10,8,6 (last set dropset)
Cable Crossover: 4x10
Single-Inner Grip Incline Press: 4x12,10,8,6
Flat BB Bench: 4x8-12
DB Skullcrushers: 4x12,10,8,6
Straight-Bar Pushdown: 4x12,10,8,6
OH DB Extension: 3x10
Rope Pushdown: 3x20

Cardio: 250 calories

Day 5:
Face Pulls: 3x15
Reverse Fly: 4x10
BTN Smith Machine Shoulder Press: 5x15,12,10,8,6
Side Laterals: 4x8-12
BB Upright Row: 3x10
Cable Laterals: 3x10
DB Front Raises: 3x10
Single-Arm Machine Shoulder Press: 4x10
DB Shrugs: 4x6-8

Cardio: 250 calories

Day 6:
Calves 1: 5 sets
Calves 2: 3 sets
Leg Extensions: 4x10
Leg Press: 5x5
Single-Leg Press/Walking Lunges: 4x10
DB Sumo Squat: 4x15
Seated Leg Curls: 6x20,16,12,10,8,6 (last set dropset)
Single-Leg Curl: 5x10

Flat Bench Leg Raises: 4x25
Cable Crunches: 3x15
Russian Twists: 2x40

Day 7:
Pull Ups: 3 max
Underhand BO BB Rows: 4x12,10,8,6 (last set dropset)
Straight-Arms Pulldowns: 3x15
Face Pulls: 3x15
DB Bicep Curls: 4x8-12
Hammer Curls: 4x8-12
BB Bicep Curls: 4x8-12
EZ Bar Curls: 4x8-12
Preacher Curls: 4x8-12
Machine Bicep Curls: 4x8-12

Cardio: 250 calories
 
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I understand that I'm way too yung! but everyone saying **** like I don't wanna work hard or something you are just stupid! I don't wanna sound cocky or anything but I'm busting my ass off everyday at the gym, workouts that most of the guys at my age atleast wouldnt be able to complete, thank you to the serious answers and lmao at the guys trying to be smart.

ALSO, at the guy saying that my program is stupid, do you want to explain why? is has been working well for me for weeks now.

Thanks!
First off, If your program has been working well for weeks now, then you don’t need anabolic. You just proved our point.

2nd, nobody said you aren’t trying to work hard. You can go **** your self for calling us stupid. We are trying to help you out. You are the one who is trying to to gear at age 18. Have your nuts even dropped yet? You are the stupid one here.

You seem like you are doing fine if nobody at your age can do the stuff you do.

Good luck.
 

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