Lol no. TRT dose is 250mg/week500 mg is your trt dose?
Lol no. TRT dose is 250mg/week500 mg is your trt dose?
This is a joke right? Show your evidence that the GW was clen or it's just bull****.Ive used Sarms and PPARs for 7 yrs now and had blood tests after each cycle because I am on TRT and never had side effects from osta, lgd or gw. Osta had little suppression @12mgs mgs, Lgd mild suppression @25mgs and hurt my HDL and Gw zero negative effects. This year i bought OL UK lgd, osta, and gw and used each individually with major side effects from each. All of which made me feel like i was taking AAS. So I went to a lab to check out what the hell i was taking and found i was right about them being AAS. Clen was passed as gw just to give you an idea of what the others were.
Only a rep would say that. Im not trying to take down a supp business, but saying my perspective is (l take it or leave it) isnt bs. I can send you the pills. If you would sleep better at night. I have no need for them.This is a joke right? Show your evidence that the GW was clen or it's just bull****.
That's a ridiculous comment. I'm far from a rep. Quite the contrary, I've become very skeptical of OL SARMS lately because all of the recent negative posts on them. But you are making a pretty wild claim without any backup whatsoever. Maybe you are a rep for the competition, lol. The only way you could possible know that OL GW contained clomid would be through lab testing. So why not just post the results right here and show your claim is credible rather than have it come off as nonsense.Only a rep would say that. Im not trying to take down a supp business, but saying my perspective is (l take it or leave it) isnt bs. I can send you the pills. If you would sleep better at night. I have no need for them.
Idk much about women either lol The oral estradiol seems to work even if it's not showing in blood because I lost my flat pecs and unfortunately have boobs. They gave me testosterone cream in 2015, it didn't increase in my blood test either really, went from 10 to 12 (before taking estradiol), last year T was 6 (after taking estradiol) , and now 0, after ostarine cycle it will probably go back to 6!) Would getting that creme help? It's only 0.02% TKarrionKloud9 Having zero T and zero e2 will make you feel like sh*t. I don't know much about women and hormones but I think that it's worst for women to have zero estrogen than men.
Interesting that you have double the igf. Tnx for sharing. What brand ostarine are you using and at what dose?
Well if it didn't do much the first time... Or you just need to use more of it. For men it's normal to use a testosterone "base" alongside anabolics. This gives you e2 and dht. The lack of both makes us feel lethargic, no libido, depression and not to mention that having zero e2 is really bad for your lipids, joints,... But women often times (or almost never I think) take exogenous e2 and t on cycle. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong here. You really should open a topic if your own and get some more detailed help that way.Idk much about women either lol The oral estradiol seems to work even if it's not showing in blood because I lost my flat pecs and unfortunately have boobs. They gave me testosterone cream in 2015, it didn't increase in my blood test either really, went from 10 to 12 (before taking estradiol), last year T was 6 (after taking estradiol) , and now 0, after ostarine cycle it will probably go back to 6!) Would getting that creme help? It's only 0.02% T
Wow! My blood gets thick off 100MG/week. With total T around 1,000. That's more of a mini cycle lolLol no. TRT dose is 250mg/week
Sure, I agree. It's just not your normal garden variety suppression u get from aas When LH is shutdown you definitely need a serm. I mostly didn't want to take nolva bc it's hepatotoxic and wanted my to let my enzymes get back to normal asap. I assumed my T would get back to normal quite soon, I was correct.You have to understand you were suppressed bud. Your total t was very low and body ups LH to try to increase endogenous test. Just because LH isnt low doesn't mean HPTA wasnt suppressed.
Care to enlighten me?You need to research how the HPTA works.
So nice of you to come to this thread and say that I should use google Please either say/contribute something meaningful or buzz off. Condescending one line sentences really don't help much.Im sure you have access to google bud.
Ineresting that you don't see your self as a protagonist in this matter "bud".Why are you catching an attitude. Google is the best source to research. You want me to copy paste articles to this forum? Im tired of young punks catching an attitude on this forum. Never used have your type on here.
Sorry I just realised I wrote 250 and not 125. My bad, I must have been multi tasking. They are 250mg amps and I do 125mg e6d’s. my apologiesWow! My blood gets thick off 100MG/week. With total T around 1,000. That's more of a mini cycle lol
But bloating is a symptom of liver issues. Most liver stress symptoms don’t arise until serious damage is done so in this case the bloating could’ve been from something in the diet. Who knows.Bloating? Osta suppresses t production and doesn't arometise. Bloating shouldn't happen. Maybe you were taking something else than osta...
I thought you meant bloating as in to much e2... Stomach bloating is probably due to indegestion if you ask me. I get bloated really easily...Yes exactly. Pain and bloating in the upper abdominal region. I discarded the 'Ostarine' and started taking activated coal with quality probiotics.
Coal and antibiotics ? Self medication at its finest..Yes exactly. Pain and bloating in the upper abdominal region. I discarded the 'Ostarine' and started taking activated coal with quality probiotics.
No and you better stop it instantly. Coal has not been proven to reduce bloat and its for certain poisonings. Coal can make you feel like ****. You haven't been poisoned. You probably just bloated due to weight gain, Wether it's food or osta I don't know.Activated charcoal absorbs toxins and reduce bloating. My guess is that it's not the compound causing the liver/stomach issues but maybe the solution used to suspend the SARM. And probiotics, NOT antibiotics will reinforce gut health. I use those as precautions mainly in case it was an indigestion. This is not medical advice by any means.
What you should be eating is 900mg of UDCA ed. Or TUDCA. Digestion will sort it self out. But you need something to help clear out the toxic bile from the liver.Activated charcoal absorbs toxins and reduce bloating. My guess is that it's not the compound causing the liver/stomach issues but maybe the solution used to suspend the SARM. And probiotics, NOT antibiotics will reinforce gut health. I use those as precautions mainly in case it was an indigestion. This is not medical advice by any means.
Coal won't do anything here and there's just no way ostarine caused so much liver damage that you need a doctor. I don't think you know the reason and I suggest you if you're worried to contact a doctor and not self medicate yourselfThank you for your concern but you only have a portion of the full picture/story. It was not bloating due to weight gain, I had a dull pain in the upper abdominal area which is often linked to liver issues. That is without talking of the pale stool, cramps, diarrhea, fatigue and lethargy.
No offense bro but fact that you’ve “heard” about tudca says to me your nowhere near ready to be taking anything that could or has the potential to affect your liver,let alone peds, tudca is one of the most commonly known and one of the best things you can take for liver detox. And you didn’t know that? But you took ostarine..I've heard of TUDCA from people on oral cycles. Will look further into it. Thanks!
Well that's one of the biggest problems with sarms and andros imo. They are so widely avaliable and promoted that they are reaching a whole nother user base. A user base that probably otherwise wouldn't have used anything. Also they are touted as to be very safe. Combine this two factors and this is what you get.No offense bro but fact that you’ve “heard” about tudca says to me your nowhere near ready to be taking anything that could or has the potential to affect your liver,let alone peds, tudca is one of the most commonly known and one of the best things you can take for liver detox. And you didn’t know that? But you took ostarine..
Sounds like gastroenteritis. Without bloods you can’t blame the liver and make a clinical dx.Thank you for your concern but you only have a portion of the full picture/story. It was not bloating due to weight gain, I had a dull pain in the upper abdominal area which is often linked to liver issues. That is without talking of the pale stool, cramps, diarrhea, fatigue and lethargy.
First of all, we don't know for a fact if what I was sold is indeed MK-2866. The molecular structure of Ostarine has not been revealed as far as I know so who really has the real compound?No offense bro but fact that you’ve “heard” about tudca says to me your nowhere near ready to be taking anything that could or has the potential to affect your liver,let alone peds, tudca is one of the most commonly known and one of the best things you can take for liver detox. And you didn’t know that? But you took ostarine..
So true man! Most I've seen are from overhyped people of a younger age. From what I have experienced, I MAY have gained some muscle (granted while on a calorie deficit) on 15mg/ED of 'Ostarine'. Training and recovery are both pretty good so I doubt those are the factors. So for the negatives sides I don't think I would repeat the experiment.Yeah there’s way to much hype around osta and not enough honest posts. A lot of forums are just straight up SARMS propaganda. For first time ped users this makes it hard to figure out exactly what should be taken when on cycle and after because everyone contradicts each other when it comes to this chemical. I’m also lucky I found this thread at the beginning of my cycle because not many people are saying how liver toxic this stuff is, and actually providing proof.
Lastly, the craziest thing about osta, and the reason why I think its use will slowly fade away, is because we are continually finding out that’s it’s not as safe as we thought, and to top it off, you rarely see people getting good results from cycling it.
Cardarine is an even bigger waste of money. By the way, I’m currenrly doing a cycle of ostarine and cardarine.
Ostarine has been studied and used in Phase 1,2,3 trials with thousands of patients. Its the most studied SARM ever. Liver toxicity hasnt been an issue. This drug is going to get approved by the FDA. Highly likely what this guy was taking was not ostarine.Yeah there’s way to much hype around osta and not enough honest posts. A lot of forums are just straight up SARMS propaganda. For first time ped users this makes it hard to figure out exactly what should be taken when on cycle and after because everyone contradicts each other when it comes to this chemical. I’m also lucky I found this thread at the beginning of my cycle because not many people are saying how liver toxic this stuff is, and actually providing proof.
Lastly, the craziest thing about osta, and the reason why I think its use will slowly fade away, is because we are continually finding out that’s it’s not as safe as we thought, and to top it off, you rarely see people getting good results from cycling it.
Cardarine is an even bigger waste of money. By the way, I’m currenrly doing a cycle of ostarine and cardarine.
Well that's just the thing isn't it... There are so many different experiences on this compounds and it's probably down to the companies selling them. I trust reputable UGL's like pharmac*m, etc. much more than these sarms and andro's companies. But either way, as a general rule of thumb: do liver tests when taking sarms and always take udca/tudca, nac with them.Ostarine has been studied and used in Phase 1,2,3 trials with thousands of patients. Its the most studied SARM ever. Liver toxicity hasnt been an issue. This drug is going to get approved by the FDA. Highly unlikely what this guy was taking was not ostarine.
Agreed..... the so call bodybuilding companies have zero ethics!I have to assume contamination, most companies are capping everything under the sun and putting whatever in it and calling it "ostarine." Not just this sarm or that prohormone, most junk coming from China and not tested so who knows. Everybody's body processes drugs differently but some numbers for sarms especially have been all over the place. My rant is over.
Bc it's not indicated to elevate them. Besides, a week after the last dose of osta my enzymes were 50% lower.Agreed..... the so call bodybuilding companies have zero ethics!
Also why are you dismissing your SSRI as the possible cause of the higher liver enzymes??
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