Similar experience here, not PH level, but better than most "natty" supps for strength/mass gains. I ran it at 6-8 caps, using the Natabolic stack. I bought 3 more bottles of Natadrol by itself to run again later at 8-10 caps.
The only other thing I've taken lately that gives me similar results are bulbine natalensis products. I've used Tropinol, Testalensis, and PhytoSerms-347. The Phyto-Serms delivered the most strength/mass gains of the 3, while Tropinol was better for aggression in the gym.
This isn't the first time Ive heard Phytoserms is good for strength. I wanna give it a run with Testopro(love this for strength) and maybe some Erase or Triazole. Should be a nice stack.
But back to the point of the thread, Ive heard rave reviews when it comes to Natadrol and strength/recomp.
Bulbine products don't really need to be run with an AI since it supposedly controls estrogen, so no need for Erase or Triazole. PhytoSerms would be a good addition to testofen products like Testopro or HCGenerate or something like DAA.
Really though, I'd be interested in stacking PhytoSerms with Natadrol, I wonder how that would work out... It may help with any minimal shutdown noticed with Natadrol, and give a boost in strength/mass even further.