COMPOUND 20 SOLO Log - Clemenza

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I started my compound20 cycle today. Felt a really strange pump and extra strength while training, must have been placebo ;)

By the way.. Congrats for all your achievements
 
Clemenza said:
Yeah man big Yankee fan. It's inherently in my blood. Although I'm not going to lie, I'm not thrilled with a lot of what they've done the passed few years... knocking down the old stadium, resigned ARod to such a gross contract, ****ting all over Posada last year, benching Gardner vs. lefties, Girardi's micromanaging, etc. etc. etc.

I find myself starting to root for Texas and some of the lower salary teams with good young talent like Tampa Bay.
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Oh geez... I was going to follow your log but not sure I can do now (big Mets fan here ;) ).

Keep up the good work on the log. Later this summer I will be doing a BioForge/ErasePro/C20 stack, so should be fun.
 
dbone1026 said:
I will be doing a BioForge/ErasePro/C20 stack,.
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Which version of BioForge.. I have 2 bottles of v2 that I got a while ago.. looks like a good stack.

Would BioForge/ErasePro/C20 stack + Anabeta Elite be redundant (not sure if BF and AE do the same thing)
 
wasme said:
Which version of BioForge.. I have 2 bottles of v2 that I got a while ago.. looks like a good stack.

Would BioForge/ErasePro/C20 stack + Anabeta Elite be redundant (not sure if BF and AE do the same thing)
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It is BioForge v3 (which is now v2, just to confuse you). Original Bioforge v2 is now just BioForge ProMax.

I have actually run Bioforge v3 two separate times (stacked with X Factor the first time and XF/TZ the second time) and had great results (I think you have the links to my log). Just wrapped up BioForge ProMax last week. My BF/EP/C20 stack I will log on bb.com but I may also log it here as well :)

Not too familiar with AE. Looking at the profile if you are using BioForge ProMax I would not stack with AE (both have forskolin which combined won't be nice on your GI).
 
You felt that after just one day? WOW - AWESOME --CONGRATS - must be more of that ONE POST MAGIC going on around here :tragedy:

Seems like every time someone has ONE post, they get KILLER results on C-20

Seriously people, does anyone really evenbuy these posts anymore?

Ahhhhhhhh LOL

RicardoTorres said:
Subbed!

I started my compound20 cycle today. Felt a really strange pump and extra strength while training
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Would be great to leave Clemenza's log drama-free.
 
dbone1026 said:
It is BioForge v3 (which is now v2, just to confuse you). Original Bioforge v2 is now just BioForge ProMax.

I have actually run Bioforge v3 two separate times (stacked with X Factor the first time and XF/TZ the second time) and had great results (I think you have the links to my log). Just wrapped up BioForge ProMax last week. My BF/EP/C20 stack I will log on bb.com but I may also log it here as well :)

Not too familiar with AE. Looking at the profile if you are using BioForge ProMax I would not stack with AE (both have forskolin which combined won't be nice on your GI).
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Echo all this. Don't stack the two.

Btw, yanks and bosox will encompass the last two slits of the ALeast, similarly to their crosstown *****s alongside the Marlins for the NLeast. Come at me daboner :o

Edit: rivals is censored...? wtf
 
Whacked said:
You felt that after just one day? WOW - AWESOME --CONGRATS - must be more of that ONE POST MAGIC going on around here :tragedy:

Seems like every time someone has ONE post, they get KILLER results on C-20

Seriously people, does anyone really evenbuy these posts anymore?

Ahhhhhhhh LOL
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I don't think this is anyone affiliated with USPlabs. I doubt they think people are dumb enough to believe the "1st Post Pimp". Maybe an amateur company would use these tactics, but USPlabs has been on the forums too long to think people wouldn't see right through it.
 
neddo said:
Echo all this. Don't stack the two.

Btw, yanks and bosox will encompass the last two slits of the ALeast, similarly to their crosstown *****s alongside the Marlins for the NLeast. Come at me daboner :o

Edit: rivals is censored...? wtf
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Yanks are looking terrible. And old.
 
Day 17:


Felt a little flat to start the day.

Had a great arm workout. A lot of supersetting. Threw down a great lineup of supps pre workout:

4g Cit Malate
2g Taurine
1g Agmatine
1g ALCAR
1g PLCAR
2g Beta Alanine
2 E-Pharm Amp caps

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Recipe for great workout and great pump!

First time I took AMP in a few years. I've also been off DMAA for quite sometime so I was hoping to get a nice kick from it today. Unfortunately I didn't get that zoned in killer feeling I used to get from DMAA. It was much more suddle but the energy was amazing during the workout. AMP is still my favorite DMAA supp. Still works great. Makes me sweat like a mother as well.

After my lift I rode my bike 10 miles keeping my heart rate at 120.

Diet was great today. Bumped up carbs to 380.

Unfortunately my neck started giving out towards the end of my workout. I feel it about to go out completely so I'm walking around like a pencil all night. Supposed to do shoulders tomorrow, but thinking I may take the day off from weights to see how I feel. I can't get hurt at this point.

Hope the Cissus kicks in quick.
 
Clemenza said:
Day 17:

Felt a little flat to start the day.

Had a great arm workout. A lot of supersetting. Threw down a great lineup of supps pre workout:

4g Cit Malate
2g Taurine
1g Agmatine
1g ALCAR
1g PLCAR
2g Beta Alanine
2 E-Pharm Amp caps

=

Recipe for great workout and great pump!

First time I took AMP in a few years. I've also been off DMAA for quite sometime so I was hoping to get a nice kick from it today. Unfortunately I didn't get that zoned in killer feeling I used to get from DMAA. It was much more suddle but the energy was amazing during the workout. AMP is still my favorite DMAA supp. Still works great. Makes me sweat like a mother as well.

After my lift I rode my bike 10 miles keeping my heart rate at 120.

Diet was great today. Bumped up carbs to 380.

Unfortunately my neck started giving out towards the end of my workout. I feel it about to go out completely so I'm walking around like a pencil all night. Supposed to do shoulders tomorrow, but thinking I may take the day off from weights to see how I feel. I can't get hurt at this point.

Hope the Cissus kicks in quick.
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Keep pressing on man, good job listening to your body...that's the key.

Chest is still slightly tender from Mondays slaughter session so I lay off chest today.

Btw did you get my pm?
 
rome32 said:
Keep pressing on man, good job listening to your body...that's the key.

Chest is still slightly tender from Mondays slaughter session so I lay off chest today.

Btw did you get my pm?
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Yeah just got it and replied. what you noticing from c20 so far?
 
Whacked said:
You felt that after just one day? WOW - AWESOME --CONGRATS - must be more of that ONE POST MAGIC going on around here :tragedy:

Seems like every time someone has ONE post, they get KILLER results on C-20

Seriously people, does anyone really evenbuy these posts anymore?

Ahhhhhhhh LOL
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why didn't you quote the whole sentence?
anyway.. i think i should just ignore that since your posts are always filled with drama, sarcasm and irony
 
Interesting how you know me so well with only 2 posts :D

Might want to read all 3,700 posts of mine,
as nothing could be further from the truth Mr USP....ooops, I mean....'Ricardo' :p

I've got no beef anth anyone and get along with just about everyone on the board. I simply refuse to keep my mouth shut about blatantly dubious pimping goes on patronizing all members like we're naive mindless suckers who can't read between the lines. Just not my thang.

Be well USP-Ricardo

RicardoTorres said:
i think i should just ignore that since your posts are always filled with drama, sarcasm and irony
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Glad to see things are going well Clem. You mentioned some water loss. Lowering carbs (which you did) will do that as well. ;)

PS: Nice well-kept log!
 
Whacked said:
Interesting how you know me so well with only 2 posts :D

Might want to read all 3,700 posts of mine,
as nothing could be further from the truth Mr USP....ooops, I mean....'Ricardo' :p

I've got no beef anth anyone and get along with just about everyone on the board. I simply refuse to keep my mouth shut about blatantly dubious pimping goes on patronizing all members like we're naive mindless suckers who can't read between the lines. Just not my thang.

Be well USP-Ricardo
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i was talking about your posts regarding c20

just to end this misunderstanding
hipertrofia.org/forum/topic/81532-relato-compound-20-com-fotos/

this is my log, in portuguese. just use google translator if don't understand pt-br
have a good one ;)
 
Ricardo - Good luck with your run bro ;)
 
Think I agree with the let's leave the drama out of here... Point taken whacked, congrats on your success with c20 ric, seems to be common around here! :-)
 
Day 19:

Neck is feeling better, but will give myself a 2nd day off from the weights just to play it safe.

Did 10 miles bike this morning.

Gonna go out to dinner tonight to throw down the one cheat meal for the week.

Going to double up shoulders/back tomorrow full force.
 
Day 20:

Trained back.

Neck was feeling better so did light deads at the back end of my workout.

Lift was good, and had a solid pump.

Did 5 miles on my bike for cardio. (20 minutes)

Diet was solid keeping carbs at 200g and protein at 200g as well.
 
Day 21:

Complete day off today.

Ran a low calorie...
200g Protein / 130g Carbs / 100g Fat

Been eating greens with at least 2 meals every day for the past 2 weeks.

I'm still pretty flat right now, due to the low carbs. However, I still feel tighter and more pumped than I usually would.

My vascularity is also slightly more visible. But still mostly in my forearms.

For the past week, I forgot to mention, I am noticing increased recovery. I've been increasing the volume in most of my workouts and actually noticing I'm less sore.

Anyone else notice this while using C20?

I also started Super Cissus about 6 days ago, but not sure it could kick in that quickly.

Tomorrow is the 3 week mark. I'll be weighing in in the AM.
 
Clemenza said:
Day 21:

Complete day off today.

Ran a low calorie...
200g Protein / 130g Carbs / 100g Fat

Been eating greens with at least 2 meals every day for the past 2 weeks.

I'm still pretty flat right now, due to the low carbs. However, I still feel tighter and more pumped than I usually would.

My vascularity is also slightly more visible. But still mostly in my forearms.

For the past week, I forgot to mention, I am noticing increased recovery. I've been increasing the volume in most of my workouts and actually noticing I'm less sore.

Anyone else notice this while using C20?

I also started Super Cissus about 6 days ago, but not sure it could kick in that quickly.

Tomorrow is the 3 week mark. I'll be weighing in in the AM.
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Definitely noticed an increase in how vascular I looked while on C20, can't really say my recovery changed though. I was doing circuit training when I ran it which no matter what I take crushes me so I'm not sure it would have made a difference. Nice updates man.
 
Day 22:

Forgot to weigh in this morning. Will weigh myself tomorrow morning.

Trained chest and shoulders today. I'm pretty depleted, but pump was still there and so was vascularity.
Because of my injuries flaring up I have not been training for strength, but instead have been keeping reps high and incorporating super sets/drop sets/high volume. I do feel stronger with more muscular endurance. Usually at this point in my cut I'm dragging, but I feel good right now. Nothing CRAZY though.

Did 20 minutes stair master for cardio. I really need to start bumping this up.
I'm not where I wanted to be at this point. I wanted to be in prime cutting shape by June 1st, at which point I'd up my carbs to around 200-400g to maintain, but keeping glycogen full. Plus starting Erase Pro / DAA.

It's hard to tell how well Compound 20 has worked in terms of "Cutting" me up. I've definitely lost weight, due to cardio and dropped calories. The pump and hardness is better than usual, but it's really hard to see significant changes until I carb back up. I always look like garbage when I'm running just 100-200g carbs a day.

Today carbs were at 200g. Tomorrow is a cardio day, I'm planning on keeping them at 150g or so. I'll probably keep them low as much as possible the next two weeks to really dial it in. Hate it.
 
Whacked said:
Ricardo - Good luck with your run bro ;)
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thanks mate

LiveToLift said:
Think I agree with the let's leave the drama out of here... Point taken whacked, congrats on your success with c20 ric, seems to be common around here! :-)
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cheers

Clemenza said:
For the past week, I forgot to mention, I am noticing increased recovery. I've been increasing the volume in most of my workouts and actually noticing I'm less sore.

Anyone else notice this while using C20?

I also started Super Cissus about 6 days ago, but not sure it could kick in that quickly.
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I feel the same! And since I'm not using Super Cissus or any related product, I can say this is C20 :)

For example: every Tuesday I play football (soccer) from 10pm to 0am (2 hours straight) and on the next day I always feel really tired (muscle and joint pain), especially when I have to wake up at 6am. BUT NOT TODAY :) I woke up at 7am and from 8 to 11am I cleaned the whole house... and I'm still "pumped"
 
Day 23:

Cardio day today. Did 5 miles on the bike (25 minutes) with HR at 100-120.

Protein today was 200g. Carbs only 60g. High fat.

Pretty depleted I hate it. Arms tomorrow and carb up.

Forgot to weigh myself again this morning. Will tomorrow morning.
 
Hope all is well. Looking forward to an update.
 
strategicmove said:
Hope all is well. Looking forward to an update.
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Just got home from a brief vacation last night. Left thursday night (day 24) in which I did arms, and took off friday saturday and sunday.

Needed to get away for the holiday weekend and recharge the batteries.

Hitting back tonight, and will post todays update.

Diet is still on point and haven't missed a dose of compound 20. Will be finishing up this week.
 
C20 gives one hell of a pump huh?
 
Day 28:

Alright so as I mentioned I was on vacation this weekend. Thursday I shot down to my parents jersey shore house with my girl to get away for a few days. Trained arms early Thursday morning and just went through the motions trying to avoid back/neck pain as they were beginning to flare up last week.

I planned to lift while I was down there but instead just did some cardio and rested. Good thing I did because after 3 solid days off from lifting and mental stress I finally felt good by Sunday night when I came home. This morning I was both mentally and physically ready to hit the weights hard.

I had work today so I woke up at 4AM and got ready for the gym. NYSC opens 5AM. I took all my pre workout supps, my pre workout shake, and drove to the gym to find it CLOSED! I forgot it was memorial day and wack ass NYSC is always grimey with their holiday hours. lol

So instead I shot right to the gym after work to hit back.

Great workout today! I went in feeling completely refreshed.
Pull-Ups
Seated Chins
Behind the Neck Pulldowns
BB Rows supersetted with Light DB Rows
Rack Deads

Ended up being a little too much. When you've got nagging constant injuries, the days you actually feel 100%... you never want to leave the gym. Unfortunately I never took the advice, "Live to lift another day", and that's why I've gotten these injuries over the years. So I overdid it slightly today and in turn ended the workout with minor neck spasms and light mid back pain. Not bad at all though considering all I did. We'll see when I wake up tomorrow morning though.

I've also been taking Super Cissus. Not sure if it was the 3 days off, or Super Cissus, or both that led me to feel really good today. I'll contibute it to the Cissus if I can train 100% all this week, because I plan to go hard.

This weekend my diet was good in terms of macros. I did cheat once all 3 days. Carbs have been low.

Now, although my carbs have been low, my pump and vascularity was EXCELLENT today! Usually at this stage of the game, during my cut with carbs this low and mainly depleted of glycogen, I'm flat, as I've stated most of this log. I do believe this is the Compound 20.

I noticed this pump and tightness a week and a half into Compound 20 and it maintained. Last week, I began to feel this feeling slightly taper off. I figured my body may have been becoming tolerant to the Compound 20 already. However, I think this may have been because I was nursing some injuries and I was just going through the motions with my lifts. I have a few days left of Compound 20. I'm interested to see how my workouts go this week and how my body composition changes as I start implementing more carbs.

Today's diet looked like this:

1) Dymatize Whey / 8 oz. OJ (40g P / 30g C)
2) 5 Eggs / 1 cup Oats (35g P / 50g C / 25g F)
3) Turkey Burger / 1/4 cups Almonds (35g P / 20g F)
4) Dymatize Whey / 8 oz. OJ (25g P / 30g C)
5) Intra Workout (20g C)
6) Dymatize Whey / 1/2 cup Raisins (40g Whey / 60g C)
7) Grilled Chicken / 1/2 cup Brown Rice / 1 cup Broccoli (30g P / 60g C)
8) Grilled Chicken / 1/2 cup Brown Rice / 1 cup Broccoli (30g P / 60g C)

235g P / 310g C / 45g F


Chest Tomorrow
 
Clemenza said:
Yeah I do believe it does. Have you used it?
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Yeah I logged it. :)

It's makes me full as hell.
I actually like the product.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Yeah I logged it. :)

It's makes me full as hell.
I actually like the product.
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Since using c20 I have kept my carbs lower than usual for the most part, while carb cycling. Usually when I do this I am flat and just dragging. Hate it. But c20 has left me having more endurance during my workouts. And especially a pump that I never have while this low on carbs, and it is much different than a glycogen pump.

This week, my fourth week, I am bringing carbs back up. Interested to see what happens.
 
Have you leaned out a decent amount on your cut at this point?
 
breezy11 said:
Have you leaned out a decent amount on your cut at this point?
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Yes. To what extent I'm not sure yet. I'm starting to bring the carbs back up this week so I will be able to see the improvements after muscle glycogen comes back.

I've made some changes to my cutting routine with the advice of a lot of guys in this thread.

Increased greens.
Kept protein no higher than 1.5g per pound.
Increased BCAA

I've been doing Cardio but have not fully even dialed in with it yet
 
Day 29:

Very sore today! I definitely over did it yesterday, too many sets.

I felt VERY hard and tight today. Pump was very good all day. I actually had 3 people on 3 seperate occasions today at work tell me I look bigger. Always a good feeling.

Trained chest today. Solid workout, but CNS was burnt. Strength was down, but that's because my entire body was sore from yesteday's workout. Still have very good pumps in the gym. Also did cardio. 7 mile bike ride.

Diet was EXACTLY the same as yesterday. I'm beginning to carb back up. Hope to see some leanness by the end of the week.

Tomorrow is my last day of Compound 20, and it's a pure cardio day. I'm going to give my final review at the end of the week, after I am carbed back up, that way I can take pics and really see any composition changes, which I believe may be there.
 
Clemenza said:
Day 29:

Very sore today! I definitely over did it yesterday, too many sets.

I felt VERY hard and tight today. Pump was very good all day. I actually had 3 people on 3 seperate occasions today at work tell me I look bigger. Always a good feeling.

Trained chest today. Solid workout, but CNS was burnt. Strength was down, but that's because my entire body was sore from yesteday's workout. Still have very good pumps in the gym. Also did cardio. 7 mile bike ride.

Diet was EXACTLY the same as yesterday. I'm beginning to carb back up. Hope to see some leanness by the end of the week.

Tomorrow is my last day of Compound 20, and it's a pure cardio day. I'm going to give my final review at the end of the week, after I am carbed back up, that way I can take pics and really see any composition changes, which I believe may be there.
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Nice man! I hit chest and Triceps...literally just got to the car.

How many miles do you do a week Cardio wise?
 
rome32 said:
Nice man! I hit chest and Triceps...literally just got to the car.

How many miles do you do a week Cardio wise?
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Around 5-10 miles a day. So 35-70 a week in the summer months. I live right on the beach and the boardwalk so it depends on the weather, how much time I have, and how many girls are out in their bathing suits.

I love riding the bike. My body can't take high impact sprinting or even long periods of jogging anymore.
 
Clemenza said:
Around 5-10 miles a day. So 35-70 a week in the summer months. I live right on the beach and the boardwalk so it depends on the weather, how much time I have, and how many girls are out in their bathing suits.

I love riding the bike. My body can't take high impact sprinting or even long periods of jogging anymore.
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Either way the ladies are some good motivation!

And that's pretty far man.
 
Day 30:

Alright so this is it! My last day dosing Compound 20. It was a cardio only day for me today.

Woke up at 6am, threw 2 scoops Modern BCAA in a 1 liter bottle of water, 3g Beta Alanine, 1g ALCAR and biked 7 miles (35 minutes).


Diet today:

1) Dymatize Whey / 8 oz. OJ / 1 Slice Ezekial Bread (40g P / 45g C)
2) 5 Eggs (35g P / 25g F)
3) Grilled Chicken / 1/4 cup Almonds (35g P / 20g F)
4) Dymatize Whey / 1/2 cup Brown Rice / 1 cup Broccoli (35g P / 60g C)
5) Grilled Chicken / 1/2 cup Brown Rice / 1 cup Broccoli (35g P / 60g C)
6) Dymatize Whey / 1/4 cup Almonds (35g P / 20g F)
Totals: 215g P / 165g C / 65g F

Low carb, low calorie day.

Felt very hard and pumped all day today, much like I did yesterday. Vascularity and overall results have gotten progressively better over the past 4 weeks. I definitely lost a little bit of fat, but did diet hard and do cardio.

I'm going to write up a detailed final review and take "After" pics either tomorrow or Friday.
 
I've been noticing significantly greater vascularity, especially this week. More so than usual.
I took these pics today. This is usually the vascularity I get during a workout, and I did not even lift today.

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Clemenza said:
I've been noticing significantly greater vascularity, especially this week. More so than usual.
I took these pics today. This is usually the vascularity I get during a workout, and I did not even lift today.

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Yeah vascularity is intense.
 
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