Compound 20 - new formula

[USPlabsRep]

Sooo am I gonna have to use a pct once I'm shutdown from what is supposed to be a cutting supp? I don't like designer steroids, I don't want the effects of them to be found in regular supplements..

No, unlike steroids this will not shut your natural production down and you may or may not experience a small decrease in testosterone.

 

[chedapalooza]

No, unlike steroids this will not shut your natural production down and you may or may not experience a small decrease in testosterone.

As someone who was on trt and able to restart successfully, I don't like the idea of toying with my test levels at all.... Not really happy w the change. Why would usp choose to change a formula that people liked in favor of an ingredient that can potentially lower T? Doesn't make sense. I'm sure others are wondering the same.
Not trying to be a hardass.. Just genuinely curious and slightly upset hah

 

[cubs1987]

loved the original... might have to stock up on it (and also give this a try down the road)

 

[GQNemesis]

Low serum, low test levels

Atleast lg was smart to say in the write up that a small pct is required

 

[USPlabsRep]

As someone who was on trt and able to restart successfully, I don't like the idea of toying with my test levels at all.... Not really happy w the change. Why would usp choose to change a formula that people liked in favor of an ingredient that can potentially lower T? Doesn't make sense. I'm sure others are wondering the same.
Not trying to be a hardass.. Just genuinely curious and slightly upset hah

Because it happens in rats doesn't mean it happens in humans....

We made the change because we believe its significantly better.

 

[Jiigzz]

As someone who was on trt and able to restart successfully, I don't like the idea of toying with my test levels at all.... Not really happy w the change. Why would usp choose to change a formula that people liked in favor of an ingredient that can potentially lower T? Doesn't make sense. I'm sure others are wondering the same.
Not trying to be a hardass.. Just genuinely curious and slightly upset hah

You're basing it off a rat model; just remember that. Not saying it wont happen, but there are a lot if things that happen in rats that dont crossover to people

 

[schizm]

You're basing it off a rat model; just remember that. Not saying it wont happen, but there are a lot if things that happen in rats that dont crossover to people

I seem to recall, years ago, someone on bb.com posting their labs after 30-40 days of using natadrol, iirc, just slight dip in t levels...Will have to go see if I can find

that thread...interesting move to put it in c20, though could be a diff extract than what lg used altogether...

Edit, here we go...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=130372553&highlight=natadrol+blood+test&styleid=1

Seems t increased actually...

 

[mr.cooper69]

I've been on erase for 3 weeks and not noticed anything really in the way of fat loss even while carb cycling

Any thoughts on this new c20?

I'm going to tell you what you already know...if you're not losing fat, it's your diet. Fat burners don't cause weight loss; they increase the % of weight lost that is bodyfat

 

[mr.cooper69]

I seem to recall, years ago, someone on bb.com posting their labs after 30-40 days of using natadrol, iirc, just slight dip in t levels...Will have to go see if I can find

that thread...interesting move to put it in c20, though could be a diff extract than what lg used altogether...

Edit, here we go...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=130372553&highlight=natadrol+blood+test&styleid=1

Seems t increased actually...

And the guy had mild bile ductule damage (GGT/ALP) before running the cycle

 

[Piston Honda]

Was looking at IrishCannon's 2010 post about Natadrol and saw this:

"The Androgenic aspect of Natadrol:

Tinospora Cordifolia - Ethanolic Extract: This is the ONLY and I repeat ONLY herbal product to FULLY stimulate the androgen receptor, and it is shown in the scientific literature to be about as potent as Hydroxy-Testosterone (hydroxytestosterone is the active version of Formestane). If you use the water extract of this product like I am sure our competitors will, you are going to have very bad effects, so make sure you take the extra time and buy ONLY the ethanolic extract of this product! What is so remarkable about this compound is that not only did it ACT like an androgen in key tissues, its androgenic effects were blocked, similar to DHT by the anti-androgen flutamide, meaning its activity on the androgen receptor is CONFIRMED."

Is this what USPLabs had in mind as the reasoning for the switch to Compound 20's formula?

 

[Grayson]

Was looking at IrishCannon's 2010 post about Natadrol and saw this:

"The Androgenic aspect of Natadrol:

Tinospora Cordifolia - Ethanolic Extract: This is the ONLY and I repeat ONLY herbal product to FULLY stimulate the androgen receptor, and it is shown in the scientific literature to be about as potent as Hydroxy-Testosterone (hydroxytestosterone is the active version of Formestane). If you use the water extract of this product like I am sure our competitors will, you are going to have very bad effects, so make sure you take the extra time and buy ONLY the ethanolic extract of this product! What is so remarkable about this compound is that not only did it ACT like an androgen in key tissues, its androgenic effects were blocked, similar to DHT by the anti-androgen flutamide, meaning its activity on the androgen receptor is CONFIRMED."

Is this what USPLabs had in mind as the reasoning for the switch to Compound 20's formula?

Inb4 USP sells a PCT for C20 :biglaugh:

 

[chedapalooza]

Inb4 USP sells a PCT for C20 :biglaugh:

Ps did u get my PM??

 

[PharmAnalyst]

Ps did u get my PM??

Your inbox is full

 

[chedapalooza]

Your inbox is full

Clear now

 

[classic34]

A couple of bottles of this just arrived at my house yesterday. I have noticed diuretic effects and lowered blood sugar (not actually tested), although after only 4 servings there isn't anything that I can say with certainty because those things could have been coincidences. More to come.

 

[chedapalooza]

A couple of bottles of this just arrived at my house yesterday. I have noticed diuretic effects and lowered blood sugar (not actually tested), although after only 4 servings there isn't anything that I can say with certainty because those things could have been coincidences. More to come.

Please do keep posting your experience.. Using anything else ??

 

[soul0wner]

Please do keep posting your experience.. Using anything else ??

x2, I have 2 bottles showing up tomorrow.

 

[classic34]

Please do keep posting your experience.. Using anything else ??

I certainly will and nothing out of the ordinary. Just my usual non-sports related supplements, Modern BCAA+, and Yok3d or Jack3d AF maybe 1-2 times per week.

 

[ssbackwards]

I certainly will and nothing out of the ordinary. Just my usual non-sports related supplements, Modern BCAA+, and Yok3d or Jack3d AF maybe 1-2 times per week.

I like the idea of phyo androgen

I wonder how doses effect libido.

Osthole I love but go to high the member starts to be temperamental

 

[JayJ]

Is Compound20 even decent? I tried it without luck.

 

[TheMovement]

Is Compound20 even decent? I tried it without luck.

I used it in combo with other supps last summer for a run and I was fairly impressed by it. Not too pleased with the new shift in direction ingredient wise being a male but on the lookout for more info.

 

[classic34]

I like the idea of phyo androgen

I wonder how doses effect libido.

Osthole I love but go to high the member starts to be temperamental

Having used Natadrol a few years ago I personally noticed no difference in libido with that product. Of course, the extraction and amount may or may not be the same here and there is a difference in sex.

 

[classic34]

I used it in combo with other supps last summer for a run and I was fairly impressed by it. Not too pleased with the new shift in direction ingredient wise being a male but on the lookout for more info.

What do you mean by this? I don't follow.

 

[TheMovement]

What do you mean by this? I don't follow.

Im still stuck on the sperm count reduction info. I mean what guy can say that its ok for any time period? Are there any current human studies that may show otherwise?

 

[chedapalooza]

Any updates on anyone using the new version

 

[TheMovement]

Any updates on anyone using the new version

Ya know if the old formula will still be available? Didnt see it mentioned in previous pages

 

[T-Bone]

Old formula still available at a ton of online stores, just gotta google.

 

[T-Bone]

Only site selling the new stuff is Nutraplanet.

 

[AlexErdellan]

this new c20 sounds interesting. maybe its time for one of those super generous USPlabs giveaways lol

 

[TheMovement]

Old formula still available at a ton of online stores, just gotta google.

Wasn't what I asked, again a little more specific will they be using two formulas or switching over to this one. I ask only because USP reformulates alot and subtle changes always pop up so I was just curious

 

[bono1132]

Wasn't what I asked, again a little more specific will they be using two formulas or switching over to this one. I ask only because USP reformulates alot and subtle changes always pop up so I was just curious

It's a switch over

 

[classic34]

Just a little update for you guys:The diuretic effects settled down after the first few days. One outstanding thing that I have noticed is that the new Compound 20 drops my blood sugar like a mild GDA. I would absolutely take this stuff with carbs. Now I am seeing a small increase in fullness and vascularity... all good things! Unfortunately I just got sick yesterday with a sore throat, headache, and flu-like symptoms so needless to say my physique has gone downhill and I'm looking small and mushy haha. No training yesterday or today. Hopefully I can kick this thing soon with enough rest. I am still taking Compound 20. I'll keep you guys updated with anything else that I notice once I have recovered.

Im still stuck on the sperm count reduction info. I mean what guy can say that its ok for any time period? Are there any current human studies that may show otherwise?

I believe that was in support of the androgenic effects. Keep in mind, anabolic steroids do the same thing. As far as I am aware human studies have not been done on tinospora.

Wasn't what I asked, again a little more specific will they be using two formulas or switching over to this one. I ask only because USP reformulates alot and subtle changes always pop up so I was just curious

It will be a switch to the new formula, but as of now the old formula is being sold at most retailers. Once their stock is sold through only the new formula will be available.

 

[T-Bone]

When is it going back on sale?. It was on sale at Nutraplanet for about a week or so, but the price magically got higher last night.

 

[classic34]

When is it going back on sale?. It was on sale at Nutraplanet for about a week or so, but the price magically got higher last night.

Yes, I see now that they bumped the price to $34.84. When/if the price goes back down is up to Nutraplanet, unfortunately.

 

[chedapalooza]

And all the original formulas r being price gouged

 

[The Solution]

Cassie - when can we get our hands on the new CP 20?

 

[T-Bone]

Cassie - when can we get our hands on the new CP 20?

It's already available at Nutraplanet. It was on sale but there was never an email about an intro sale. Now the price is back up. Maybe they will have a sale again though.

 

[The Solution]

It's already available at Nutraplanet. It was on sale but there was never an email about an intro sale. Now the price is back up. Maybe they will have a sale again though.

USP always has an intro sale
Must of been too late to the party.
Surprised no email from NP or USP about it.

 

[TheMovement]

Just a little update for you guys:The diuretic effects settled down after the first few days. One outstanding thing that I have noticed is that the new Compound 20 drops my blood sugar like a mild GDA. I would absolutely take this stuff with carbs. Now I am seeing a small increase in fullness and vascularity... all good things! Unfortunately I just got sick yesterday with a sore throat, headache, and flu-like symptoms so needless to say my physique has gone downhill and I'm looking small and mushy haha. No training yesterday or today. Hopefully I can kick this thing soon with enough rest. I am still taking Compound 20. I'll keep you guys updated with anything else that I notice once I have recovered.I believe that was in support of the androgenic effects. Keep in mind, anabolic steroids do the same thing. As far as I am aware human studies have not been done on tinospora.It will be a switch to the new formula, but as of now the old formula is being sold at most retailers. Once their stock is sold through only the new formula will be available.

First and foremost Thankyou for the info and the updates on how it is treating you. Often now a days things are pressed and promoted and the effects dont seem to match the description of benefits lol. Hope you feel better soon as well

 

[classic34]

Cassie - when can we get our hands on the new CP 20?

As T-Bone said, it's already available at Nutraplanet. Mine was shipped straight from the USPlabs warehouse but it does not appear to be available any more.

First and foremost Thankyou for the info and the updates on how it is treating you. Often now a days things are pressed and promoted and the effects dont seem to match the description of benefits lol. Hope you feel better soon as well

Sure thing and thank you!

 

[NO_HYPE]

I think their hibiscus extract was what they advertised as a SARM-like compound

 

[wheels]

any updates

 

[The Solution]

Just got a bottle in

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Just got a bottle in

Chop out some updates every so often buddy!

 

[T-Bone]

I'll need one more to try it out. Waiting for an intro sale though.

 

[The Solution]

I'll need one more to try it out. Waiting for an intro sale though.

Intro sale? its already released....

 

[T-Bone]

Intro sale? its already released....

Yes but they never had an email special or intro sale special. Sure they had the same but no email was sent announcing it.

 

[The Solution]

Yes but they never had an email special or intro sale special. Sure they had the same but no email was sent announcing it.

I doubt there will be an "Intro" sale after the product has already been released.
Maybe next major holiday like they did for new years, black friday etc.

 

[T-Bone]

I doubt there will be an "Intro" sale after the product has already been released.
Maybe next major holiday like they did for new years, black friday etc.

Easter maybe.

 

[The Solution]

Easter maybe.

I work 8-8 on Easter, hopefully i dont miss something.