Coming Off Anavar Cycle

[Dwight Schrute]

Yeah its already been proven to be complete BS. I even helped in that with Big Cat over at FG. It was fun.

Fonz doesn't have a clue.

 

[raybravo]

yeah, that thread at fitness geared was fun to follow " the real boob "

 

[anibal]

I take that personally, as if you were referring to me and what I had to say.

Why would I post something that was BS?

And if it is BS prove it. That's the only way anyone will gain anything from this discussion.

Im proof enough dude i developed gynecomastia from oxandrin alone in less than 2mo usage at 40mg per day tabs

 

[crazydoc1]

Guys--- oxandralone in a CP upregulator.... its pathway is a little skewed vs. much of what it is being compared to...

have a look at the prescribing paper for Oxandrin .... and some of othe other information on the physicians section of their site..

 

[crazydoc1]

Oxandrolone (OXANDRIN®) differs from other testosterone analogues in that it contains an oxygen atom rather than a carbon atom at the 2-position within the phenanthrene nucleusInvalid Link Removed and lacks a 4-ene function in the A-ring. It has been hypothesized that the unique structure of oxandrolone — in particular, the alteration within the phenanthrene nucleusInvalid Link Removed — accounts for its anabolic potency, which is approximately 3 to 13 times that of methyltestosterone. Table 1 describes the published pharmacokinetic properties of oxandrolone. Refer to Geriatrics section for additional pK data in the elderly.
Parameters

Oxandrolone

Oral bioavailability

97%*

Tmax

1.1 h

Distribution half-life (t1/2 α)

0.55 h

Elimination half-life (t1/2 ß)

9.4 h

Volume of distribution (Vd)

578 mL/kg

Protein binding

>94%

Plasma clearance

43 mL/kg

Urinary excretion

60%â€*



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* Based on fecal recovery or orally administered oxandrolone.
â€* 0 to 96 hour pooled urine. Unchanged oxandrolone plus metabolites.


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[anibal]

Oxandrolone (OXANDRIN®) differs from other testosterone analogues in that it contains an oxygen atom rather than a carbon atom at the 2-position within the phenanthrene nucleusInvalid Link Removed and lacks a 4-ene function in the A-ring. It has been hypothesized that the unique structure of oxandrolone — in particular, the alteration within the phenanthrene nucleusInvalid Link Removed — accounts for its anabolic potency, which is approximately 3 to 13 times that of methyltestosterone. Table 1 describes the published pharmacokinetic properties of oxandrolone. Refer to Geriatrics section for additional pK data in the elderly.
Parameters

Oxandrolone

Oral bioavailability

97%*

Tmax

1.1 h

Distribution half-life (t1/2 α)

0.55 h

Elimination half-life (t1/2 ß)

9.4 h

Volume of distribution (Vd)

578 mL/kg

Protein binding

>94%

Plasma clearance

43 mL/kg

Urinary excretion

60%‪



Adapted from Karim et alInvalid Link Removed

* Based on fecal recovery or orally administered oxandrolone.
‪ 0 to 96 hour pooled urine. Unchanged oxandrolone plus metabolites.


Masse et alInvalid Link Removed assessed metabolism of oxandrolone and determined that oxandrolone is excreted mainly unchanged and unconjugated in the urine. Other metabolites excreted in the urine were 17-epioxandrolone and 16α- and 16β- hydroxyoxandrolone. Oxandrolone susceptibility to hydrolysis in the pH range 5.2 to 11.0 was also demonstrated. In comparison to other anabolic androgenic agents, oxandrolone undergoes little metabolism and is not reduced to DHT or aromatized to estrogen.Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed

this does not say what dose

 

[anibal]

I am ending a cycle of anavar, I don't want to lose any (or much) muscle, any ideas as to what I should take?

Thanks...................

be cautious i used anavar for 2 months and developed gyno

 

[rrgg]

You mentioned this in another thread anibal. How much were you taking, for how long, and was it solo? It's a little hard to believe unless you were given a counterfeit. Apparently anavar has a high price, so there's some incentive for people to sell fakes.

 

[anibal]

You mentioned this in another thread anibal. How much were you taking, for how long, and was it solo? It's a little hard to believe unless you were given a counterfeit. Apparently anavar has a high price, so there's some incentive for people to sell fakes.

i was taking 40 mg daily for 2mo
and yes solo it was not for bb im not a bb it was recommended by a specialist to help me gain weight after surgery.

 

[KingMeso]

i was taking 40 mg daily for 2mo
and yes solo it was not for bb im not a bb it was recommended by a specialist to help me gain weight after surgery.

Is it full blown gyno or is it from getting fat.

 

[anibal]

Is it full blown gyno or is it from getting fat.

You have actually posted a very interesting question. Im not fat im 5 10 `167lbs but
my chest area looks like it packed a whole layer of fat it looks like gyno but not just in the nipple area more like 3inc diameter around whole nipple area and beyond its not very localized to the nipple

 

[size]

You have actually posted a very interesting question. Im not fat im 5 10 `167lbs but
my chest area looks like it packed a whole layer of fat it looks like gyno but not just in the nipple area more like 3inc diameter around whole nipple area and beyond its not very localized to the nipple

You keep adding extra details. This may be a case of pseudogyno that is actually just fat deposits. Fibrous gyno is a hard lump that forms typically behind the nipple.

 

[anibal]

You keep adding extra details. This may be a case of pseudogyno that is actually just fat deposits. Fibrous gyno is a hard lump that forms typically behind the nipple.

size im sorry i didnt elaborate better before . Well about a year ago my doctor looked at at it after i came off very quikly and told me yes that that is what it looked like it was very briefly and off record. now over a year later the selling seems to have distributed. I spoke to my doctor today and he told me that there are different types and he does not remember me having a localized lump right beneath the nipple which is th eone you need surgery for. He is going to check me again this week maybe thursday or wed to evaluate me now. Sorry that I did not elaborate before. By the way I know you might think i am a looney but I also remember taking injections of somatotropin before the anavar could without any sessation in btw.
My chest i would say looks more saggy than anything else.

 

[anibal]

You keep adding extra details. This may be a case of pseudogyno that is actually just fat deposits. Fibrous gyno is a hard lump that forms typically behind the nipple.

my wife is in medical school which means i hardly ever have time to talk to her but today she came home early and evaluated my chest she says it seems in her opinion to be all fat deposit rather than tissue. i read something about a yohimbine powder maids specifically for these types of fat my docotr thinks its bogus but hes a pessimist anyway what do you think. I think someone on this forum actually mentioned something as well but he said he maid it himself and used it as a topical fat burner his name might have been slavikhavik i think

 

[rrgg]

I think you mean Lipoderm Ultra, or a homemade alternative.

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It sounds like you think there's no lump. In that case, it's not likely "true" gyno like someone said earlier.