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Clomid=elephant balls?

Itwasme

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Noticed my boys are gettin swoll..also seems to give me quite the load...hope this is common and can anyone tell me if u need to taper off or just quit? Running 50mgs twice a day... For 3 wks
 
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/66113-no-excuses-no.html

SERM's: the foundation of post cycle therapy:
Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators are (and damn well should be) the foundation for any proper post-cycle therapy plan. A post cycle therapy plan without them, isn't a post cycle therapy plan: it's a bunch of crap you decided to take after doing a cycle. The purpose of a SERM is to block the negative effects estrogen, while your hormone levels go back to equilibrium.

SERM's are prescription drugs, and are NOT SOLD IN SUPPLEMENT STORES. In fact, there are only 3 ways ( can think of) in which you can obtain a SERM:

1) Through a Doctor's Prescription.
2) Through the Black Market (a.k.a. illegally)
3) As a research chemicals intended for use in lab rats.


The Different SERM's:

Tamoxifen (Nolvadex):
Reputation: Most popular SERM for PCT
Pros: Cheap. Effective for gyno prevention.
Cons: Heptatoxicity. Studies have shown it to lower IGF levels (I don't feel like citing, but it's about 20% decrease...IMO no biggie).
Popular Dosage (for a 4-week cycle): 40/40/20/20
Note: Tamoxifen Citrate is less potent, and should be dosed at an extra 30%.

Clomiphene Citrate (clomid):
Reputation: Second most popular. Usually taken the first week or so to speed up Testosterone recovery with Tamoxifen being taken the whole therapy.
Pros: Better than Tamoxifen for HTPA regernation. Less heptatoxicity. Does not lower IGF.
Cons: Less effective against gyno. Can cause emotional issues. May Cause blurred vision. Hot Flashes.
Popular Dosage (for a 4-week cycle): 100-200mg/100mg/50mg/50mg

Toremifene:
Reputation: Very popular on this board
Pros: Much less toxic.
Con's: $$$$$expensive$$$$$
Popular Dosages (for a 4-week cycle): 120-240mg/120mg/60mg/30mg

Raloxifene:
Reputation: Very effective against gyno
Pros: Strong protection against gyno. Less toxic than Tamoxifen.
Con's: Cost Restricting. Can cause abnormal blood clotting in the eyes, lunges, and legs. May also cause hot flashes trouble breathing, and blurred vision.
Popular Dosages: (for a 4-week cycle): 120-240mg/120mg/60mg/30mg
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Taper off. Doses don't need to be split b/c the half life is relatively long.
 
What was the cycle that you are now running a PCT for?
 
Not quite elephant. Maybe somewhere between a mule and a moose.

Clomiphene citrate does a pretty fantastic job of upregulating the HPTA, much better than tamoxifen citrate, but not quite as good as some of the second and third generation compounds. It's rumored that male pornography stars have used it to make 'more money' out of the 'money shot'. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but with how it upregulates semen production, it certain seems plausible - my only concern is that clomid would make the guy want to hang around and talk afterwards.

As much fun as you might be having, try not to stay on clomid any longer than necessary; otherwise, when you eventually do come off, you'll notice you've somehow purchased every movie ever made by Julia Stiles, coming to the realization of approximately 10 things you hate about your movie collection.

Clomid deactivates most estrogen receptors, except for one. This one causes some emotional crap that us guys don't normally experience. This emotional crap is why girls like chick flicks and guys who aren't on too much clomid don't.
 
Screw you! 10 Things I Hate About You was a great movie...now you've made me cry, you bastard!!!
 
Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking. I think the hot flashes were getting to me :ntome:
 
Well I ran 10wks of prop at 300 a wk...anyhow did liquid nolva for 4 wks...and that helped got rid of sensitive nipples and keep me dry ...but unfortunatly I was misinformed that it would raise t lvls as well... so wk 5 I am hoping that a 3 wk run of clomid will get the pit gland stimulated... Can I still take herbs with clomid??? 1000 tribulas??longjack??
 
I wouldn't complicate things and to be honest, I'm not 100% convinced tribulus or tongkat really do it.
 
LOL .... I hear ya . Dude this **** better straighten out....or ****it gonna grab some sus 300 and tren e and jump back in... LOL
 
If you have liquid nolva, you should have access to other things that will work quite well...for your research, of course.
 
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