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CLOMID CYCLE: Come one come all

On the issue of whether or not to also take an AI, would it stand to reason that since the clomid is only raising test a bit, and not anywhere near AAS levels, couldn't one get away with using an OTC AI? Perhaps it would be less damaging to the libido.

I think someone mentioned running the clomid with some erase. Or maybe something like 6-oxo. Still, I feel like if the idea of using clomid as a "cycle" per se would be alot more popular if its as safe and effective as it sounds on this thread.
 
Yes, I got the labs back and they are at 577 which is way better then being in the hundreds. I am now thinking about testing it at 5 weeks something like 50/50/25/25/25 then test the last day of the clomid cycle and then 2 months later to see how long they stay elevated. I don't use research as it could be just as good but I buy the pharma grade.
 
Not bad, looks to work ALOT better then any natty test booster and safer(as in less to worry about) then a AAS cycle. Could be a good tool to use during a recomp ya think? Reason I ask is I'm recomping right now. I planned on boosting my recomp by doing a 250mg a week test e cruise for a few months but it would be nicer to boost a recomp this way to where I want then run a slightly higher dose clean bulk test cycle later.

I'm halfway to where I want before I bulk. Started at 225lbs and fat January 1st, id say at least 20-25%bf after not lifting for 9 months, eating like **** and drinking lots of beer.(a couple health conditions set me back then I fell in a hole as a result)
Now I'm down to 208 and about 16-18% abs are starting to show again and love handles almost gone. 34 waist pants that wouldn't fit in December are baggy in the waist now. I've made good progress in the last two months but I want to look like last year never happened by summer so this is looking mighty tasty right now as a quick boost.
 
Ill be doing this then.... im buying like 20 bottles at ex pep. Lol
And will be running this after my bulk up cycle... this will be cool...
 
I've seen a couple of different dosing protocols. Looks like I'll be getting the 50mg tabs, but was really wanting to do 25/25/25/25/25/25. Gues I could split em, but would something like 50 eod be just as good? I know clomid has a pretty long half life (5 days or so?), so I'm thinking either dosing schedule should be ok. Thoughts?

I'm actually thinking of running a AM/AB cycle prior to this, and then rolling with the extended clomid pct...
 
liftin4fun said:
Yes, I got the labs back and they are at 577 which is way better then being in the hundreds. I am now thinking about testing it at 5 weeks something like 50/50/25/25/25 then test the last day of the clomid cycle and then 2 months later to see how long they stay elevated. I don't use research as it could be just as good but I buy the pharma grade.

How old are you? Curious because of a clomid thread on EF saying that clomid's ability to raise T will be limited as one gets older, specifically over 35.
 
Haven't read every single post, but have researched clomid cycles. If you research under "clomid restart" you will find a lot of interesting threads on other forums. One personal raises his levels from mid 200s up to 950 and they stabilized mid 600s which was the highest for him in years. Also, it appears 5mg ED of Nolva has been ran in similar cycles with the same drastic increase in test levels with them stabilizing two and three times higher than at the beginning of restart. So it appears one could use clomid or nolva to restart natural test levels. Also curious as to how tossing in a 100mcg injection of triptorelin pre clomid restart may aid even more in increased/stabilized levels. I don't have low test but research knowing it may be in my future some day. Apologies if I repeated anything or made a useless post to your thread.
 
The results of some of these blood tests are very interesting. I know some guys dislike clomid and claim to feel like crap on it but I really think thats often due to crashing test levels during pct or their dose is too high. I personally feel great in the 25-50 mg range.

Just curious - how many other guys have ran bloods after clomid?
 
Haven't read every single post, but have researched clomid cycles. If you research under "clomid restart" you will find a lot of interesting threads on other forums. One personal raises his levels from mid 200s up to 950 and they stabilized mid 600s which was the highest for him in years. Also, it appears 5mg ED of Nolva has been ran in similar cycles with the same drastic increase in test levels with them stabilizing two and three times higher than at the beginning of restart. So it appears one could use clomid or nolva to restart natural test levels. Also curious as to how tossing in a 100mcg injection of triptorelin pre clomid restart may aid even more in increased/stabilized levels. I don't have low test but research knowing it may be in my future some day. Apologies if I repeated anything or made a useless post to your thread.

Hmmm interesting. I have a bunch of nolva laying around. I thought I heard clomid was a better for this purpose though. Sorry I don't have any info to back it up, I just have a faint memory of reading something to that effect. If nolva is shown to do just as well as a stand alone test boosting cycle then cool.
 
Hmmm interesting. I have a bunch of nolva laying around. I thought I heard clomid was a better for this purpose though. Sorry I don't have any info to back it up, I just have a faint memory of reading something to that effect. If nolva is shown to do just as well as a stand alone test boosting cycle then cool.

From personal opinions and cycle logs, I have read that nolva ED around 5mg, works just as well as clomid. Ideal length for either clomid/nolva restarts appears to be a tapered dosage over a 3 month period. Also read a log on here ( can't recall which) but the guy was running clomid Ed for 10 weeks of his AAS cycle. It seems beneficial and a few logs had the blood work to prove it. Of you research you can find the guy who ran clomid Ed first month, EOD second month and E3D the final month with tapered dosages. Got bloodwork done after each month and 2 months after his final clomid dosage. His test levels tripled and where stabilized around 850. Ill try and post a link. Original natty test levels where really low, around 190.
 
From personal opinions and cycle logs, I have read that nolva ED around 5mg, works just as well as clomid. Ideal length for either clomid/nolva restarts appears to be a tapered dosage over a 3 month period. Also read a log on here ( can't recall which) but the guy was running clomid Ed for 10 weeks of his AAS cycle. It seems beneficial and a few logs had the blood work to prove it. Of you research you can find the guy who ran clomid Ed first month, EOD second month and E3D the final month with tapered dosages. Got bloodwork done after each month and 2 months after his final clomid dosage. His test levels tripled and where stabilized around 850. Ill try and post a link. Original natty test levels where really low, around 190.

I'd be interested in seeing the log. I was Internet searching last night only to find alot of inconclusive information and plenty of skepticism and dumb ass negative remarks by naysayers
 
If one were to run clomid as a standalone test booster, what would your dosages be and how long would one run it?
 
Idk if you guys are interested but my doc just prescribed clomid to help restore my test levels. I can share everything that's going on if y'all would like. I don't wanna hijack the thread or anything.
 
Idk if you guys are interested but my doc just prescribed clomid to help restore my test levels. I can share everything that's going on if y'all would like. I don't wanna hijack the thread or anything.

That would be awesome, or start a new thread and link it.
 
Idk if you guys are interested but my doc just prescribed clomid to help restore my test levels. I can share everything that's going on if y'all would like. I don't wanna hijack the thread or anything.

Fire away man - it's a thread about clomid, so i think you're good...
 
Well I've been having low test symptoms for a while, went to the doc to get some bloods. My test came back @ 436 which I felt for my age and lifestyle was low. So he put me on 1 month @ 50 mg a day and we're gonna check again after.
 
Well I've been having low test symptoms for a while, went to the doc to get some bloods. My test came back @ 436 which I felt for my age and lifestyle was low. So he put me on 1 month @ 50 mg a day and we're gonna check again after.

Keep us updated. Do it on this thread since its the topic and everyone already interested in this will benefit from your info without having to bounce around different threads.
 
Well I've been having low test symptoms for a while, went to the doc to get some bloods. My test came back @ 436 which I felt for my age and lifestyle was low. So he put me on 1 month @ 50 mg a day and we're gonna check again after.

Just checking in - do you feel any different? Have there been any sides yet?
 
Well, I just purchased a couple of bottles of clomid (for my mice, of course). Anyway, I plan on running a 5 wk cycle of AlphaMass/AlphaBulk, and then hitting the clomid at 50mg ed for the first week, then eod for another 6-8 wks for an extended PCT. I'll also be taking some other stuff like Titanium, along with some type of AI. Still working through the plan.

Suggestions or recommendations are welcome...
 
I'm on day 4 or 5 now and there is no sides to report at all. I do feel a little better with fatigue and overall well being but I'm pretty sure that's due to placebo and the fact some new supps just came in the mail. I not even going to worry or think about it until I get my new bloods
 
Well I just got my levels back. And I scored a 330 for my test. So I am low but not ultra low. I am going to try clomid first. And do a two month taper. Then test again. I hope I dont feel like ass like some guys on clomid. I will keep you guys posted
 
low dosed clomid is nearly side-free from my experience. higher doses lead to visual sides and hot flushes
 
I will be seeing the doc tomorrow to see what my T, E, and PRL are at right now. Natty low T for years, 250, not steroid induced! and if it's still there I'm going to show research studies on clomid for T and cabergoline for sexual dysfunction while on SSRI anti-depressants and see if I can get a script for them. WANT... it's been a decade since I got morning wood regularly and I'm only 28... time to fix this ****... Then pin ;)

There is a place out there that sells legit research Caber but I'm not going to say unless you ask personally lol. Im using it and I'm almost tired of constant wood
 
Interesting. Do u have a reference for this claim?

your mom.... j/k

but really, your google search tab is broke or wut?

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The more fat you eat, the more testosterone your body produces. More fat, more testosterone. The best source of testosterone boosting fat, Argentinean researchers concluded a year ago after a study on rats, is olive oil. The same researchers have now published the results of another animal study in Lipids,
which shows how olive oil increases the production of testosterone. Olive oil helps the testes to absorb more cholesterol.

The researchers, working at the Instituto de Investigaciones Bioquimicas de La Plata, did an experiment with male rats. For sixty days, the rats were given feed to which seventy grams of soya oil , olive oil [O], coconut oil [C] or grapeseed oil [G] per kilogram had been added. At the end of the period the researchers measured how much testosterone the animals were producing. The figure below shows that coconut oil and olive oil were the best testosterone boosters.
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The testes of the rats that had had olive oil added to their feed were also heavier. Because the grapeseed oil diet produced the same results as the soya oil diet, we have left that column out of the table below.
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The Argentineans described how this happens a year ago. Olive oil and coconut oil increase the activity of the 3beta-HSD and 17beta-HSD enzymes. These are involved in the manufacture of testosterone. Olive oil and coconut oil also raise the concentration of the body’s own antioxidants in the Leydig cells, which produce testosterone. In the present study, the researchers went a step further. They found a relationship between the diet, the amount of free cholesterol in the Leydig cells and the testosterone level.
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The Leydig cells make testosterone from cholesterol. A diet that is rich in coconut oil or olive oil apparently helps the cells to absorb more cholesterol. The cells are also more able to extract the cholesterol from its ester. The more free cholesterol a Leydig cell has available, and the less estered cholesterol there is in a cell, the higher the rate of testosterone production.
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So natural athletes could optimise their testosterone production by making olive oil their main form of fat. Another nutritional strategy that might help is to eat cranberries. Cranberries increase the uptake of cholesterol by the testes.

Source:
Lipids. 2009 Apr;44(4):345-57.


http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/170549-coconut-oil-testosterone.html

I like coconut oil better than olive oil, and i believe it's better for you and your test.
 
I'm in on this, wanting to get rid of my clomid after this cycle, seems like a good idea
 
reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/12tnhn/low_dose_clomid_as_a_standalone_test_booster/

reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/170ox5/the_standalone_clomid_experiment_final_results/

reddit.com/r/Supplements/comments/nm67e/how_safe_is_it_to_order_research_chemicals_like/
 
Well my results came back. My test is lower than before I ran the clomid. It's 365 it was 460 something before. So looks like I'll be heading down the trt route.
 
Well my results came back. My test is lower than before I ran the clomid. It's 365 it was 460 something before. So looks like I'll be heading down the trt route.

Have you tried the whole DAA, LJ100 and some of the natty supps that help a lot if people? Just curious man:-) maybe you kind of want to do TRT just for fun
 
Yeah I've tried various different forms of daa. No I def don't want trt but if its going to improve my quality of life why not.
 
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