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Clenbuterol

ribm1980

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Im thinking of taking clenbuterol....
Have been cutting down for a contest for about 2 months now, and have come across a few speed bumps across the way (big personal issues) and am thinking of taking Clen to help catch up with my original plan.
I am 90kg at roughly 15% bf.

My macros are roughly 25:35:40 ( carb fat protein)

Wishing to get as shredded as possible.

Any comments on the use of clen?

Any opinions would be gladly taken.
Cheers.
 
That it wont work at such fatty composition , get to some single digits before thinking of clen , get some good old EC , cardio , workouts and nutrition in check and you'll be good to go in a month IF you put your mind into it and really work hard. Look into specific cutting diets like the Lean Gains cut approach OR Lyle McDonald ultimate diet 2.0...
 
Celorza is right, you have to cycle clench anyways so you are better off using it getting from 8% to 6% bf. It's more effective breaking thru a plateau then 'catching up'
 
Do you hear what you're saying? Clen only works if you already have low body fat? LYou're making it sound as if having a high body fat percentage makes clen stop working. Even if you're 30 perfcent body fat, you will still lose weight with clen, without a doubt. The thing is, a lot of the time heavier people take clen, don't change anything like diet or increase cardio and never experience the full benefits.

Clen works for everybody, provided you give your body the right environment to make the best of the chemical. End of story.
 
ejschmidt said:
Do you hear what you're saying? Clen only works if you already have low body fat? LYou're making it sound as if having a high body fat percentage makes clen stop working. Even if you're 30 perfcent body fat, you will still lose weight with clen, without a doubt. The thing is, a lot of the time heavier people take clen, don't change anything like diet or increase cardio and never experience the full benefits.

Clen works for everybody, provided you give your body the right environment to make the best of the chemical. End of story.
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Clen works best at stubborn body fat elimination , which is easier to notice its gone when you are at a lower BF % , not when you are a big guy and have easy to get rid off body fat , at those levels , clen will yield the same "mirror" results are a good fat burner stack...its btter he waits and doesnt waste money and start building up a tolerance for clen until he really needs it , not at a big bf %....
 
Clen is awesome! I u have a clean diet n u balance ur protein/carb intake the right way...the results will b tremendous :) I usually take the right amount of mcgs for females for ONLY 2-3 weeks then stop because ur body will get used to it n u'll stop seeing results...it's also not healthy to take it for a long time. cycle it smart!
Remember though...nutrition is 70%, weights training is 20% n cardio is 10% . So if ur diet sux then Clen won't do to much 4 u
 
ejschmidt said:
Do you hear what you're saying? Clen only works if you already have low body fat? LYou're making it sound as if having a high body fat percentage makes clen stop working. Even if you're 30 perfcent body fat, you will still lose weight with clen, without a doubt. The thing is, a lot of the time heavier people take clen, don't change anything like diet or increase cardio and never experience the full benefits.

Clen works for everybody, provided you give your body the right environment to make the best of the chemical. End of story.
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Improve your reading comprehension, I didn't say it doesn't work, its just better served if you already have low bf. It is easier to go from 15% to 12% bf then to go from 8% to 5%. It's just like anabolics, if you are 5'10" and 150 pounds they will help, but they are better served if you are natty until you reach closer to your genetic limits
 
SPS said:
Improve your reading comprehension, I didn't say it doesn't work, its just better served if you already have low bf. It is easier to go from 15% to 12% bf then to go from 8% to 5%. It's just like anabolics, if you are 5'10" and 150 pounds they will help, but they are better served if you are natty until you reach closer to your genetic limits
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Smart man , well answered.
 
Celorza said:
Didn't like the answers? Or were you looking for an easy way out of that bf %?
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He must befriend and embrace FAT. ( good fats that is ;)

As Cel said, diet, cheap EC and train hard but also sleep too
 
I've used clen at 12% bf... Wish I'd waited. It's a waste to use it at anything higher than a single digit...just as celorza has suggested.

I'm gonna use it again in about 2 weeks..this time starting from a lower %
 
I reside with the fact that clen burns fat regardless of your body fat percentage. Sure, it might help a lot more at a much lower body fat percentage where the weight is harder to lose, but nonetheless, clen burns fat. To suggest anything else is preposterous.

All of that said, should you use it at a higher body fat percentage? Well, it's not a miracle drug, and if everything is spot on, it won't do much good. But, clen will work regardless of your body fat percentage.

Are there any additional ways to word this?
 
ejschmidt said:
I reside with the fact that clen burns fat regardless of your body fat percentage. Sure, it might help a lot more at a much lower body fat percentage where the weight is harder to lose, but nonetheless, clen burns fat. To suggest anything else is preposterous.

All of that said, should you use it at a higher body fat percentage? Well, it's not a miracle drug, and if everything is spot on, it won't do much good. But, clen will work regardless of your body fat percentage.

Are there any additional ways to word this?
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Yeah...please research the pathways Clenbuterol and T3 take please :) when you do that and learn how it works come back with another snarky comment about how "preposterous" I am being!.
 
Right, well it directly operates on the CNS, so I'm not quite sure where you're going with that one. Or maybe you're referring to how it's a bronchodilator? Either way, it burns fat. Being fat doesn't make clen not work. Unless of course being fat inhibits your central nervous system...

But no, you're totally right. Not like clen induces thermogenesis, increasing your core temp and burning excess calories.

By the way, when I was heavier I ran clan (stupidly mind you) without adding any cardio to my daily routine and lost a good amount of weight by, really, doing nothing.
 
Celorza said:
Yeah...please research the pathways Clenbuterol and T3 take please :) when you do that and learn how it works come back with another snarky comment about how "preposterous" I am being!.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't T3 and Clen operate on different principals? T3 is, medicinally, used to treat hypothyroidism whereas clen would mask the symptoms of hypothyroidism. One being a Beta-2 antagonist and the other is a thyroid drug.
 
ejschmidt said:
Right, well it directly operates on the CNS, so I'm not quite sure where you're going with that one. Or maybe you're referring to how it's a bronchodilator? Either way, it burns fat. Being fat doesn't make clen not work. Unless of course being fat inhibits your central nervous system...

But no, you're totally right. Not like clen induces thermogenesis, increasing your core temp and burning excess calories.

By the way, when I was heavier I ran clan (stupidly mind you) without adding any cardio to my daily routine and lost a good amount of weight by, really, doing nothing.
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Lol...I really thought you would've actually read something before answering back at me , what makes Clen be so good is that it is a B2 agonist , symilar to ephedra in the effects of a thermogenic and BMR enhancing drug...the thing is , used at big levels of fat (when they are FAIRLY easy to burn) it will have no greater magical effect than any kind of fat burner , or good old EC stack, hence just paying more for less , no point in using it then , I do agree with you , stupid of you to use it high levels of body fat and without cardio :) thats just called being a lazy f*ck who wants a expressway to what we live for , but you are forgiven don't worry many do that mistake. You should know (at least I hope so since you seem to act smart, and at the same time prove idiocy with some statements) that BMR of a person dieting and restricting calories for a LONG time , for a hard cut like many of us went through , gets sluggish , how to say it in terms you understand it...We tax our bodies so much (some of us) that it enters starvation mode sometimes or simply plateaus and will not allow for more BF to be burnt and starts devouring muscle, clen comes more effectinve in this stages as it boosts bmr and thermogenic state of the body , that paired with good diet and cardio in this stages , gets us to shredded physiques. So in conclusion , yes I do believe you have no way to contradict me , yes clen is used STUPIDLY at big BF levels when you can literally shed off fat with minor tweaks when you are a fat boy, and it is something most people should keep away from because some of them forget the effect it has and the allergy you can generate to it and do not follow protocols as 2 weeks on , 2 weeks off , because they think they can fling it. Anything else?
 
ejschmidt said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't T3 and Clen operate on different principals? T3 is, medicinally, used to treat hypothyroidism whereas clen would mask the symptoms of hypothyroidism. One being a Beta-2 antagonist and the other is a thyroid drug.
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Yeah , both different pathways , thought you might should read into it , one being a thyroid activator , and also BMR enhancer :) good boy , wikipedia is your friend at first.
 
Thanks for the neg, I was really hoping to be negged today. Assaulting my intelligence? A different story.

I can almost guarantee the following:
1. I went to a better school than you did
2. Had a better GPA
3. Got a better job as a result of this
4. Make far more money than you do

So, we can go about making immature stabs at each other until we both sound childish, or we can keep it professional and topical (that is primarily my fault) Your point is well received, people with a higher body fat percentage shouldn't use clen. I rescind all prior statements.
 
And yes, the internets are serious bidness, and yes, I was pwned.

I'm going to bow out now with what little dignity I have left.
 
ejschmidt said:
I reside with the fact that clen burns fat regardless of your body fat percentage. Sure, it might help a lot more at a much lower body fat percentage where the weight is harder to lose, but nonetheless, clen burns fat. To suggest anything else is preposterous.

All of that said, should you use it at a higher body fat percentage? Well, it's not a miracle drug, and if everything is spot on, it won't do much good. But, clen will work regardless of your body fat percentage.

Are there any additional ways to word this?
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So why post a thread asking people's thoughts if you've already made up your mind? In all due respect...
 
ejschmidt said:
Thanks for the neg, I was really hoping to be negged today. Assaulting my intelligence? A different story.

I can almost guarantee the following:
1. I went to a better school than you did
2. Had a better GPA
3. Got a better job as a result of this
4. Make far more money than you do

So, we can go about making immature stabs at each other until we both sound childish, or we can keep it professional and topical (that is primarily my fault) Your point is well received, people with a higher body fat percentage shouldn't use clen. I rescind all prior statements.
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Lol sadly I doubt it for the GPA accounts kiddo...I was valedictorian in high school , personal mention of the Governor , I'm on the deans list of University of texas currently studying Manufacturing Engineering , Hm...yeah a GPA of 3.8 for engineering should be enough to shut your pie-hole, I havent gotten a job because I don't need one atm , I only study and get interships , and yeah I am a spoiled brat too with a BMW Z4 2012 parked outside because my parents are loaded...Hm I am handsome , green eyed...better shape than you and sadly for you even Obama has given me a mention for my achievements in college , furthermoe international champion of Rhetorics and Math Olympics with trophees earned even in Mexico-Canada-Spain anything else Mr? Hhahahaha because I can prove all of that , and I doubt you had anything better in your life than me...I was born the perfect kid, money , looks , wits , and now I'm training strength, sadly for me :) the only thing I seem not to have is real friends or lasting relationships...but that I can do without for now...
 
ejschmidt said:
And yes, the internets are serious bidness, and yes, I was pwned.

I'm going to bow out now with what little dignity I have left.
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And you have no dignity left been smacked twice , on the supplement side , and on the side of your pathetic life compared to the one of a 21 y.o. like me...Know your place , even on the internet you will find the kind of people you don't dare look in the eye in real life , the kind of people scum like you cower from...real champions who bleed and sweat for what they have and are proud of it, real people who are successful in everything , and don't need to resort to excuses and easy paths like you did...I pity you sir , but go on , tail between your legs little mutt...
 
Celorza said:
That it wont work at such fatty composition , get to some single digits before thinking of clen , get some good old EC , cardio , workouts and nutrition in check and you'll be good to go in a month IF you put your mind into it and really work hard. Look into specific cutting diets like the Lean Gains cut approach OR Lyle McDonald ultimate diet 2.0...
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Celorza got it exactly right, clen works best when your body fat is already low, not to mention the sides can be pretty severe.
Being patient and taking a well thought out approach to diet and training is the way to go.
Good luck
 
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