Clen sides?

gaijininjapan

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So first 3 days, I went 20/40/60mcg and at night I started getting some hives. So I gave it a rest for 3 days, and I think the hives were due to something else, so I decided to start the clen again today at 60mcg.

Anyways, the only effect I've been feeling is increased thirst. Getting a slight headache if I don't drink lots of water. I've also started to get more lethargic, but that might be due to the lower carbs I'm eating...

I'll up the dose to 80mcg tomorrow. I've also been taking ketotifen 1mg every other night while on clen, and an OTC anti-histamine on the other days.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 
gaijininjapan said:
So first 3 days, I went 20/40/60mcg and at night I started getting some hives. So I gave it a rest for 3 days, and I think the hives were due to something else, so I decided to start the clen again today at 60mcg.

Anyways, the only effect I've been feeling is increased thirst. Getting a slight headache if I don't drink lots of water. I've also started to get more lethargic, but that might be due to the lower carbs I'm eating...

I'll up the dose to 80mcg tomorrow. I've also been taking ketotifen 1mg every other night while on clen, and an OTC anti-histamine on the other days.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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suggestion for what?
 
you dont need the ketotifen until around week3/week4 when your body stops responding to it.

pointless taking ketotifen for the first 3 weeks, you dont need it...

and if it was me, i would cycle it 3 weeks on 1 week off without the ketotifen, but thats just my personal preference

i got horrible shakes from clen, i was running 100mcg 5tabs a day, saw great improvements with a little careful eating and cutting out all fastfood. the shaking was nearly too much to handle at times, i was struggling to bring a fork to my mouth and still keep the food onit... but its a great compound if you know how to use it!!!
 
Next time try Albuteral. I've used both clen and alb and I have to say, clen is far worse on the sides and actually made my cardio a little worse. Albuterol helped my cardio immensley, still got me lean and no sides to report. This is due to a shorter half life so the side effects are easily mitigated.

Also, albuterol isn't active while trying to f*cking sleep lol
 
eksy21 said:
you dont need the ketotifen until around week3/week4 when your body stops responding to it.

pointless taking ketotifen for the first 3 weeks, you dont need it...

and if it was me, i would cycle it 3 weeks on 1 week off without the ketotifen, but thats just my personal preference

i got horrible shakes from clen, i was running 100mcg 5tabs a day, saw great improvements with a little careful eating and cutting out all fastfood. the shaking was nearly too much to handle at times, i was struggling to bring a fork to my mouth and still keep the food onit... but its a great compound if you know how to use it!!!
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Well, I was taking the ketotifen for the antihistamine properties more than anything else due to the iching I got. I'll up the does today and see what happens.
 
so I've ramped up rather quickly (40mcg increments) to 200mcg, and have been at 200mcg for the past 4 days. I don't feel any different other than the same thirst and slight lethargy. I do notice that I get SLIGHT shakes when trying to pick up food w/ chopsticks, but they're rather easy to control. I would've imagines that the sides would be more pronounced, but guess not.

So I'm wondering... am I just prone to "no-sides" or what gives? I was only planning to max dose at 100mcg, dosing w/ ketotifen to keep the effectiveness up, but even dosing w/ 2mg nightly of ketotifen, 200mcg of clen doesn't feel like it's doing much. I'm on a lower calorie, low carb diet now, so perhaps that has something to do w/ the lethargy. But at this rate, I've only got enough clen for about another 14 days, so I guess I'll just finish it all, then switch to this bottle of VPX Hardcore that I have or try the T3...

So annoying... why am I so stimulant insensitive... do I really have to turn to Tren...?!?
 
10 clen tablets a day.... thats a high dose my friend!
how on earth your not getting horrible shakes i dont understand

i noticed big changes without changing my diet when i was on clen, 10 min cardio after every workout and my abs went from a little defined to full cut abs in 2 weeks, it was melting fat off my midsection but i couldnt live with those shakes...people were asking if i had parkinsons!!!!!
 
well, my tabs are 40mcg/ea, so 5 tabs for me. I have no idea... but I'm not seeing anything higher than 200mcg per dose, so I'm a little worried about going higher. I am a lot thirstier, so it must be working somewhat...

I may try 220mcg this weekend, but since I got work tomorrow, I don't want to up the dose just in case sides suddenly kick in.
 
gaijininjapan said:
well, my tabs are 40mcg/ea, so 5 tabs for me. I have no idea... but I'm not seeing anything higher than 200mcg per dose, so I'm a little worried about going higher. I am a lot thirstier, so it must be working somewhat...

I may try 220mcg this weekend, but since I got work tomorrow, I don't want to up the dose just in case sides suddenly kick in.
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wait a minute. how long have you been on clen without a break?

200mcg. is a lot
 
lennoxchi said:
wait a minute. how long have you been on clen without a break?

200mcg. is a lot
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This is my dosing schedule:
40/80/120/0/0/0/120/160/200/200/200/200/200/200-today

(the 3-day break was because I thought I had an allergic side to clen, but it turned out to be something else)

I was taking an anti-histamine for the allergies (rash/hives) early on, and started 2mg ketotifen when I started 200mcg of clen. Ever since day 1 of clen, all I felt was increased thirst. I'm going to stop clen after this weekend, and do a low dose of T3 tapering from 12.5mcg-25-12.5mcg over 2 weeks just to asses my tolerance.
 
gaijininjapan said:
This is my dosing schedule:
40/80/120/0/0/0/120/160/200/200/200/200/200/200-today

(the 3-day break was because I thought I had an allergic side to clen, but it turned out to be something else)

I was taking an anti-histamine for the allergies (rash/hives) early on, and started 2mg ketotifen when I started 200mcg of clen. Ever since day 1 of clen, all I felt was increased thirst. I'm going to stop clen after this weekend, and do a low dose of T3 tapering from 12.5mcg-25-12.5mcg over 2 weeks just to asses my tolerance.
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man thats a lot of clen, it could be bunk if all you're feeling is increased thurst. you should be shaking like a junkie right now
 
That's what I'm thinking, but then again, this brand is often found on several reputable sources, and checks out on the mfg's site. So I don't know. But I really prefer pharm tabs over research chems, so until I can find another pharm source, I'll just have to assume that I have a high tolerance for this stuff...

Anyways, 2 more days til I switch to T3 from the same mfg...
 
I go one week on one week off at 140 when I'm cutting with no sides. I think I'm just used to clen and all stims in general. I'm actually in San Ysidro (TJ border crossing) as I type this. Just picked up a stash of Oxyflux, Albuterol, and Femoxtal. Gonna make a second run tomorrow :)
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Next time try Albuteral. I've used both clen and alb and I have to say, clen is far worse on the sides and actually made my cardio a little worse. Albuterol helped my cardio immensley, still got me lean and no sides to report. This is due to a shorter half life so the side effects are easily mitigated.

Also, albuterol isn't active while trying to f*cking sleep lol
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Agreed....i much prefer albuterol over clenbuterol
 
Let's put it this way, if you know the right pharmacy, you'll pay $5 per 50 of Oxyflux. I'm on my iPad and can't upload pics but once I get home, I'll post pis of the 12 bottles of clen, 9 albuterol pumps, 6 bottles of tamoxifen and clomid that I've picked up thus far. I'm staying a bit longer so I'll be buying more stuff. You're only allowed to bring a 3 month supply each time so multiple days are required. Don't have the balls to try bringing some real gear back though.
 
gaijininjapan said:
Compared to online pharmacies... how are the prices in TJ? When I return to the states, my source will be TJ as well...
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BTW stay away from the pharms near the border crossing as they are expensive in comparison. MSG me when you're ready to roll and I'll give you directions and pics of the place so you know you're in the right store.
 
The side effect is that your body gets used to the clen and the effects lessen. Run it for a week on/week off
 
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