Clen + Hdrol

ozHarris

ozHarris

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In a few weeks I am going to start my cutting phase.
I have both Helladrol and some Clen but I'm not sure if it's wise to take both at the same time.
What do you guys think? I've head that I should wait until after pct to use the Clen, or should I take it before the Helladrol? Cycle both together?

Which ever way, I was post a blog for everyone.

Thanks...
 
Together might be pretty rough on your blood pressure...now I know a lot of ppl will disagree but I'd say use the clen first get nice and cut up then do the helladrol cycle...I feel the leaner you are the more pronounced the PH results will be...just my 2 cents
 
I don't like clen... Keeps me up all night. Long halflife, and I sleep like crap.

A 75-100mg dose of helladrol will help lean you up some by itself. I would try that first, then if you are still not lean, look at your diet and cardio. Then if you are still not lean enough, add in some clen.
 
Thanks guys. I've got my diet sorted, going keto. Starting around 2000 calories (800 approx deficit). Keeping carbs under 20 grams. Will increase cardio over the weeks instead of cutting calories.
Will monitor that and see how I progress.
 
I will use the Helladrol first (only because be been hanging onto it for a few months now)..
How long after pct can I use the Clen? Or can I take it during pct? Better still, overlap the 2?
 
ozHarris said:
I will use the Helladrol first (only because be been hanging onto it for a few months now)..
How long after pct can I use the Clen? Or can I take it during pct? Better still, overlap the 2?
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Usin it during pct might not be a terrible idea
 
Clen has slight anabolic properties so maybe it would help retain a little more muscle during pct even at reduced calories
 
Clen is anti catabolic, so in PCT coupled with something to control cortisol (erase), you should be fine.
 
oogaly_boogal said:
Clen is anti catabolic, so in PCT coupled with something to control cortisol (erase), you should be fine.
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I personally am debating the anti catabolic propertys.The study I know of shows anti catabolic propertys in animals. They have more beta 3 receptors and they were given mega doses. I wont be using it in my pct.
 
pyrobatt said:
I personally am debating the anti catabolic propertys.The study I know of shows anti catabolic propertys in animals. They have more beta 3 receptors and they were given mega doses. I wont be using it in my pct.
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There is a thread going on in here on beta 2 agonists being anabolic etc. But yeah i agree, i wouldn't take the chance. I prefer ecy to clen anyways.
 
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