Where do you find that 80mcg is the accepted lowest effective dose???? Maybe for you... but someone will read what you just wrote, and want to start there... but that is NO WAY the case... everyone is different... when I take 55-60mcgs, my heart is off its rocker. My self I wouldnt mix it... thats a bit of stims... and your heart RACING that hard isnt a good thing... Id take the LIPO6 on the off days of clen myself. But that is just me... like I said everyone is different... loosing weight isnt a race... the phrase "Slow and steady" comes to mind.
Adams