cissus definitly has some androgenic activity....

Max32

Max32

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Well, I started back up on 6-8 caps of cissus RX before my upcoming cycle, and I must say that there is def some strong androgenic activity here. Within a week back on, I have noticed mild acne (nothing to worry about) and a slight increase in blood pressure. This is without a doubt the strongest phyto sterol or whatever you like to call it, that I have come across. A very strong 'natural stack' would consist of:

-cissus RX
-Designer activaTE
-fenugreek
-rebound XT
 
Odd, I'm on day 12 and am still having to pop ibuprofen for pain. It actually seems like my pain is getting worse?? If no benefits arise shortly, I'll have to discontinue use. :sad: I haven't noticed any benefits that were advertised...
 
Lifted,

A deep apology but again, The effects of pain relief advertised itself through members feedback not a ploy by the company. We do not claim that all supplements work for all people.

ceosm
 
USPLabs said:
Lifted,

A deep apology but again, The effects of pain relief advertised itself through members feedback not a ploy by the company. We do not claim that all supplements work for all people.

ceosm
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I have noticed a definite reduction in joint pain. However, it may also be attributed to the celadrin, or most likely, the combination of the two. Cissus has definitly given me slightly more or a dense look to my muscles. Muscle bellies seem to be more pronounced.
 
USPLabs said:
Lifted,

A deep apology but again, The effects of pain relief advertised itself through members feedback not a ploy by the company. We do not claim that all supplements work for all people.

ceosm
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I never said that they did. I was just giving my review...the advertising you do says that cissus alleviates pain and heals bones, tendons, etc...that's what I bought it for. I know that all supps don't wrok for everybody...don't take my review so personal. It didn't work for me thus far, that doesn't mean that it won't work for others...don't try to make me look like a bad-guy here. I was only giving other's what I had experienced so far....not a personal attack on your company. :rolleyes:

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The bottle says what it says... ;)
 
Realisitically I've come to expect only so much from an herb but all in all I'm please with the Cissus/ecdy combo I'm running.

It's taken care of mostly minor aches and pains for me. I still have peristent pain in my wrist and that's likely due to a significant joint/tendon issue so I doubt any supp can heal that. I've taken a lot of time off of lifting the last few weeks yet have kept some aspect of fullness which is nice..particularly for my psyche. Weight and bf% have been maintained even while eating pretty crappily...and really, that's all I was hoping for at most.

Tomorrow I will lift and see if Cissus has helped my bicept tendonitis. If that is healing up I will be most pleased.
 
I offered a "deep Apology" and an explanation. I do not have the time nor a reason to explain how customer feedback from cAMPHIBOLIC leads us to develope Cissus RX. Your intelligent and capable to read between the lines.

ceosm
 
USPLabs said:
I offered a "deep Apology" and an explanation. I do not have the time nor a reason to explain how customer feedback from cAMPHIBOLIC leads us to develope Cissus RX. Your intelligent and capable to read between the lines.

ceosm
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WHAT!!?? I have no idea what that was suppossed to mean. You don't have the time nor a reason to explain? You basically just contradicted yourself. Read between the lines?? lol, so you put a label on the bottle that is only there for pretend reasons?? lol, I dunno what you're trying to say here man, but I did not deserve this kind of response.
 
...with this type of agressive and demeaning language and attitude I'm surprised you're still in business!

Lifted didn't deserve this demeaning response and your bottle clearly states "kill pain"!

btw..what is a "deep apology"? is that different from a "shallow apology"?
Oh I jest..:)

Regards,
Storm

USPLabs said:
I offered a "deep Apology" and an explanation. I do not have the time nor a reason to explain how customer feedback from cAMPHIBOLIC leads us to develope Cissus RX. Your intelligent and capable to read between the lines.


ceosm
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lifted said:
WHAT!!?? I have no idea what that was suppossed to mean. You don't have the time nor a reason to explain? You basically just contradicted yourself. Read between the lines?? lol, so you put a label on the bottle that is only there for pretend reasons?? lol, I dunno what you're trying to say here man, but I did not deserve this kind of response.
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I agree, and this also makes me skeptical. Read between the lines?
Advertising is advertising, but if it says it's supposed to accomplish
X, shouldn't it accomplish X. Do I have to read inbetween the lines to know what it's REALLY for? I mean, come off it...
 
Max32...great avator pic of Arnold! He actually got that "reach toward the sky" pose from the now deceased Steve Reeves. That pose was Reeves #1 pose. I sure miss those old days of Reeves, Arnold, Nubret...! :)

Regards,
Storm
 
Storm said:
...with this type of agressive and demeaning language and attitude I'm surprised you're still in business!

Lifted didn't deserve this demeaning response and your bottle clearly states "kill pain"!

btw..what is a "deep apology"? is that different from a "shallow apology"?
Oh I jest..:)

Regards,
Storm
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I offered an apology, and I am not in the game of bringing an entourage for defence so please let the dudious argument end.

ceosm
 
builtolast said:
I agree, and this also makes me skeptical. Read between the lines?
Advertising is advertising, but if it says it's supposed to accomplish
X, shouldn't it accomplish X. Do I have to read inbetween the lines to know what it's REALLY for? I mean, come off it...
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Creatine works as advertised. Creatine doesn't work as advertised.

ceosm
 
USPLabs said:
Creatine works as advertised. Creatine doesn't work as advertised.

ceosm
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Good point, but come on guy's let's get back to talking about the androgenic properties that Max has eluded too. Max have you notice any strength increases that could be attributed to cissus, or the pump that several people have mentioned. I like your recommendations on the natty stack, but why the Fenugreek, and not GXR?
 
prld2gr8ns said:
Good point, but come on guy's let's get back to talking about the androgenic properties that Max has eluded too. Max have you notice any strength increases that could be attributed to cissus, or the pump that several people have mentioned. I like your recommendations on the natty stack, but why the Fenugreek, and not GXR?
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Why not both? I take GXR yr round anyway. I am a believer in trib/fenugreek being taken along with something like nolva or rebound to aid further n PCT. Some can and will argue, I am just going off of bloodwork from previous AAS cycles. Tribestan ALWAYS reved up my FSH, LSH and Free test levels at a far quicker rate than nolva/clomid alone.

The pump comes about 10 days in. My BP increase could also be from the RXT as well. Currently, I am taking FUZE, RXT, and Cissus RX. However, the 'real fun' begins shortly :twisted:
 
lifted said:
WHAT!!?? I have no idea what that was suppossed to mean. You don't have the time nor a reason to explain? You basically just contradicted yourself. Read between the lines?? lol, so you put a label on the bottle that is only there for pretend reasons?? lol, I dunno what you're trying to say here man, but I did not deserve this kind of response.
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He is saying that everyone won't respond to it like creatine, like NO2, like every other supplement out there.

He puts a label on there based on what the feedback was and many people experience the effects AS ADVERTISED. Cissus was brought out AFTER the feedback of some of his beta testers along with users of cAMPH.

I didn't see anything wrong with his response at all. He said he was sorry that you didn't receive those results from the FIRST POST.
 
Max32 said:
Why not both? I take GXR yr round anyway. I am a believer in trib/fenugreek being taken along with something like nolva or rebound to aid further n PCT. Some can and will argue, I am just going off of bloodwork from previous AAS cycles. Tribestan ALWAYS reved up my FSH, LSH and Free test levels at a far quicker rate than nolva/clomid alone.
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I figured you took it for PCT purposes...... forgot about Dr. D's backing of the product on said issue, so yeah I agree now, why not both. :thumbsup:
 
Bobo said:
He is saying that everyone won't respond to it like creatine, like NO2, like every other supplement out there.

He puts a label on there based on what the feedback was and many people experience the effects AS ADVERTISED. Cissus was brought out AFTER the feedback of some of his beta testers along with users of cAMPH.

I didn't see anything wrong with his response at all. He said he was sorry that you didn't receive those results from the FIRST POST.
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Exactly.
 
ANYWAY. I've been taking Cissus for about two weeks and my Wife has noticed some acne on me.. Not much. On my shoulders and back. I don't normally get any acne so one or two is a little out of place.. Just making a note of it for this discussion...
 
Have you seen any strength increase or other possible GOOD side effects along with the acne.
 
That's cool, I'm guessing you favored the product because of the injury itself. In that case keep us informed of how it helps you out.
 
seen a lot of hype on cissus rx... is it legit. Looking to incorporate it in my next stack. Whats the deal with it?
 
rippedforce63 said:
:gotsearch , theres a ton of info on this board imparticular on this wonderful compound just do a search.
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Agreed, but to answer the question-

It's legit and there isn't any hype, for me this isn't just a joint support supplement but also a "pump" supplement (I get a great all day therapeutic pump from it) which equals to my muslces getting to work as best as they can.
Btw about the acne thing, my acne actually improved when I was using Cissus RX.
 
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