Christ83189 back in it

Not sure about benching 2 days in a row but felt good so im doing it after squats.

30 min bike

Squat
135x10
225x8
275x5
300x3
335x3
365x3

Bench
135x10
205x10
225x5
250x5x5

Front squat ss/ghr ss/ leg ext

135x10
185x8
225x5

Ghr
+25lbs x10x3

Ext
215x12x3
 
Nice session homie!

Don’t lift 6 days/wk. Only a small percentage of successful strength athletes train that way - my rule of thumb is look for what’s common between successful people, not the fringe. Some people absolutely can do this, but odds say you won’t be one of them. Plus unless you have a garage gym that’s more time driving to/from gym and you have a family.

You can train 3-4x/wk, eod essentially, full body. Or you can alternate upper and lower days for 2x/wk frequency. Most people can tolerate the latter. Those with better recovery can do the former.

Example if training 4 days per week:

Squat/bench
deadlift/ohp
bench/squat
rowing+accessories

or

Squat/deadlift
Ohp/bench
Deadlift/squat
Bench/ohp

If you can train 5 days per week, you can spread things out more, but be mindful not to overtrain your recovery. If you only bench on Monday, your shoulders are still going to be beat up on Tuesday when you try to squat - having a day off in between allows optimal recovery time.
 
So if im gonna bench twice a week and squat twice a week and ohp twice and deads once how would you guys lay it out? Or point me in the direction of a good template to use. Think im gonna switch it up and do something other than 531 and get some more volume in and see what happens

Nice session homie!

Don’t lift 6 days/wk. Only a small percentage of successful strength athletes train that way - my rule of thumb is look for what’s common between successful people, not the fringe. Some people absolutely can do this, but odds say you won’t be one of them. Plus unless you have a garage gym that’s more time driving to/from gym and you have a family.

You can train 3-4x/wk, eod essentially, full body. Or you can alternate upper and lower days for 2x/wk frequency. Most people can tolerate the latter. Those with better recovery can do the former.

Example if training 4 days per week:

Squat/bench
deadlift/ohp
bench/squat
rowing+accessories

or

Squat/deadlift
Ohp/bench
Deadlift/squat
Bench/ohp

If you can train 5 days per week, you can spread things out more, but be mindful not to overtrain your recovery. If you only bench on Monday, your shoulders are still going to be beat up on Tuesday when you try to squat - having a day off in between allows optimal recovery time.

Those are very close to what I was thinking.
 
Bottom line is this: if you want increased frequency, you will have to train more often, do both moves every time you train the respective session (ie squat AND dead every lower day) or have some full body sessions.
 
Nice session homie!

Don’t lift 6 days/wk. Only a small percentage of successful strength athletes train that way - my rule of thumb is look for what’s common between successful people, not the fringe. Some people absolutely can do this, but odds say you won’t be one of them. Plus unless you have a garage gym that’s more time driving to/from gym and you have a family.

You can train 3-4x/wk, eod essentially, full body. Or you can alternate upper and lower days for 2x/wk frequency. Most people can tolerate the latter. Those with better recovery can do the former.

Example if training 4 days per week:

Squat/bench
deadlift/ohp
bench/squat
rowing+accessories

or

Squat/deadlift
Ohp/bench
Deadlift/squat
Bench/ohp

If you can train 5 days per week, you can spread things out more, but be mindful not to overtrain your recovery. If you only bench on Monday, your shoulders are still going to be beat up on Tuesday when you try to squat - having a day off in between allows optimal recovery time.
Yup THIS^^^^^
 
Squat/ bench
Rest
Ohp/ deadlift
Rest
Squat/bench
Rest
Repeat
Accessories depending on what body part was work today
 
Its weird at first to rap your head around.
But we get strong on off days while we rest and eat. We don't get strong at the gym.
 
Its weird at first to rap your head around.
But we get strong on off days while we rest and eat. We don't get strong at the gym.

I love the every other day split and use it quite a bit. When I want to up the frequency I will do full body or top to bottom Push and Pull workouts. When I want to do a higher volume workout with less frequency like if joints are not feeling as good, I will do upper push, upper pull, and then lower. I just incorporate those as see fit based on how I am feeling.
 
I love the every other day split and use it quite a bit. When I want to up the frequency I will do full body or top to bottom Push and Pull workouts. When I want to do a higher volume workout with less frequency like if joints are not feeling as good, I will do upper push, upper pull, and then lower. I just incorporate those as see fit based on how I am feeling.
I just dont really like taking days off. I mean ill take a day sometimes 2 a week or occasionally more if im too busy to lift. I just dont like taking days off from lifting
 
I just dont really like taking days off. I mean ill take a day sometimes 2 a week or occasionally more if im too busy to lift. I just dont like taking days off from lifting
Truth is.....your most likely over trained.
If you squated and benched in one day you may feel like resting more
 
Truth is.....your most likely over trained.
If you squated and benched in one day you may feel like resting more
Maybe. Ive just always thought that overtraining wasnt a real thing unless your an athlete training several hours a day every day. Ive gone stretches where i would train 6 days a week 2 hours a day and skip days off from time to time and still be gaining and feel fine. Its effecting me a little more nowadays with the extra stress of what ive got going on and with the new baby along with the other three kids cutting into my sleep and working construction full time. I still get grumpy when i have to take extra days off due to being too busy certain days. Especially now being on trt and not having the low t symptoms i feel ready to go every day
 
Nice session homie!

Don’t lift 6 days/wk. Only a small percentage of successful strength athletes train that way - my rule of thumb is look for what’s common between successful people, not the fringe. Some people absolutely can do this, but odds say you won’t be one of them. Plus unless you have a garage gym that’s more time driving to/from gym and you have a family.

You can train 3-4x/wk, eod essentially, full body. Or you can alternate upper and lower days for 2x/wk frequency. Most people can tolerate the latter. Those with better recovery can do the former.

Example if training 4 days per week:

Squat/bench
deadlift/ohp
bench/squat
rowing+accessories

or

Squat/deadlift
Ohp/bench
Deadlift/squat
Bench/ohp

If you can train 5 days per week, you can spread things out more, but be mindful not to overtrain your recovery. If you only bench on Monday, your shoulders are still going to be beat up on Tuesday when you try to squat - having a day off in between allows optimal recovery time.

Literally my layout with RPS and Texas method.
 
Maybe. Ive just always thought that overtraining wasnt a real thing unless your an athlete training several hours a day every day. Ive gone stretches where i would train 6 days a week 2 hours a day and skip days off from time to time and still be gaining and feel fine. Its effecting me a little more nowadays with the extra stress of what ive got going on and with the new baby along with the other three kids cutting into my sleep and working construction full time. I still get grumpy when i have to take extra days off due to being too busy certain days. Especially now being on trt and not having the low t symptoms i feel ready to go every day
You'll get stronger .
If you want strength gains you gotta do splits
 
Easy to get that CNS sizzling when life and work come and punch you directly in the teeth. It affects ze gainz.
 
You'll get stronger .
If you want strength gains you gotta do splits
Ok so how about this

Bench/squat

Possible accessory/off day

Deads/OHP

Off day

Squat/bench

Possible accessory day

Ohp/deads

On the compound days heavy weight low reps

Accessory days hypertrophy/ pump work

Also on the days where the focus is on, say, squat. How would i layout the bench work for that day?
 
And also could i just take the progressive overload set/rep/weight scheme from 531 and use that or should i look up something else to follow for reps/sets and percentages
 
And im not saying im gonna train 6 days a week every week cause my schedule wont accommodate that right now but if i can i like to
 
You can train 5-6x/wk, and training consistently for years on end is the true key to progress regardless of split, but all things being equal giving yourself off-days to recover is superior for strength progress.

More isn’t necessarily better - better is better.
 
And also could i just take the progressive overload set/rep/weight scheme from 531 and use that or should i look up something else to follow for reps/sets and percentages
For sure.
But 4 days a week is probably max for serious strength stuff.
531 is good stuff and it auto regulates if I'm remembering right.
531 is EOD right? I know its not 6 days a week
 
Ok so how about this

Bench/squat

Possible accessory/off day

Deads/OHP

Off day

Squat/bench

Possible accessory day

Ohp/deads

On the compound days heavy weight low reps

Accessory days hypertrophy/ pump work

Also on the days where the focus is on, say, squat. How would i layout the bench work for that day?
Your never going over 90 % of 90%
So I'd hit squats 75, 80, 85for 531. AMRAP 85%
Then bench
Same scheme if you want or a 5x5 at 70% each rep fast as you can.
I don't think bench will be as hard as you think after squating.
That one body part a day is just a mind set.
Squating and benching same day is killer.
You'll love it
 
Your never going over 90 % of 90%
So I'd hit squats 75, 80, 85for 531. AMRAP 85%
Then bench
Same scheme if you want or a 5x5 at 70% each rep fast as you can.
I don't think bench will be as hard as you think after squating.
That one body part a day is just a mind set.
Squating and benching same day is killer.
You'll love it
Ok cool so ill start training like this first training day next week. Probably sunday. I might just start it tomorrow depending on how early i wake up
 
I just dont really like taking days off. I mean ill take a day sometimes 2 a week or occasionally more if im too busy to lift. I just dont like taking days off from lifting

Train how you feel. No one ever found out what they were capable of by listening to the masses or doing what everyone else does. I get tired of hearing people telling others where they fall into when it comes to training. Tells someone their overtraining, really. Then how do people on top levels find out their elite. I assure you, not by training 4 times a week for an hour each session. I’m sure they were all told the same thing, “your frequency is too much.” I can show you people who train daily at the park and outwork those in the gym. I never see anyone stopping a baby from learning how to walk daily. Their muscles are overworked according to an adult way of thinking. They try when their ready and often. If I’m not mistaken it’s a total body workout learning to walk. Don’t believe me, get hit by a car and break both legs. Why both? Because an infant can’t use either when learning to walk. They do pull-ups daily until they can stand. The only thing that changes between being an infant and adult is body weight. So you got weaker as you got older because you stop training to walk or stop running because you sit more as a teen. Are you getting it yet. A toddler is strong for years because their athletic abilities match their size until they put those tools to rest they used to do basic things to get strong and catch mommy and daddy to keep up. Adults tend to push them, then try to slow them down when they get older. People also don’t tell children to stop sprinting daily. That’s what children do. Spring until out of breath and run again. That’s how they burn all those terrible calories adults shove in their face. A child will intermittent fast DAILY. No one says a word. Think about it. Most kids skip meal after meal but no one blinks. See nothing changes except your mindset as an adult. All of a sudden everything you did as a child is out the window. Want to know how to squat, watch a toddler bend down and pick something up. You never hear anyone stopping a baby and saying you picked that up wrong. Gymnasts train 8 hours a day. No one says a word except when it comes to an everyday gym goer and everyone wants to weigh in and say your not elite, but train slower, less, rest, eat this way. You have no clue their potential, genetic makeup or possibilities. No one ever told you what your completely capable of or you never tried. So how do you know what someone can do typing and reading on the cpu. There are people who waste their genetic potential daily. There are those who train to reach them that have no athletic ability but worked to achieve and look fantastic. Your training, nutrition and abilities are yours to unlock. Do what you feel and see what you can handle. I turn 45 in a few weeks and get asked daily if I play football. They have no clue, I’m 44 and have a 6 and 4 year old. They have no clue, I grew up playing basketball 6 days a week at 190-220. My current look and weight says different. Even my own father never was athletic, but had a son to grow over 6’5, 315 +, without trying. I was born prematurely @ 4.5lbs. You say you like training for six days a week! So aim for it. If things happen, like life, and you only get in 2 or 4, then at least you made it. You aim for 4 but get in 2? How would you feel then? You want to take a week off after going 6 full days after a few weeks, you’ll feel like a beast and say it’s ok, because the work you put in. Mindset is key. What you determine as a workout can just be maintenance to someone else and vice versa. All factors that mean something different to each individual. I could tell you more but you have people who are going tell you different and think otherwise. It’s ok. When you want train and get stronger as bad as you want to breathe then you will begin unlock your full potential, regardless of anything going on in your life.
 
Train how you feel. No one ever found out what they were capable of by listening to the masses or doing what everyone else does. I get tired of hearing people telling others where they fall into when it comes to training. Tells someone their overtraining, really. Then how do people on top levels find out their elite. I assure you, not by training 4 times a week for an hour each session. I’m sure they were all told the same thing, “your frequency is too much.” I can show you people who train daily at the park and outwork those in the gym. I never see anyone stopping a baby from learning how to walk daily. Their muscles are overworked according to an adult way of thinking. They try when their ready and often. If I’m not mistaken it’s a total body workout learning to walk. Don’t believe me, get hit by a car and break both legs. Why both? Because an infant can’t use either when learning to walk. They do pull-ups daily until they can stand. The only thing that changes between being an infant and adult is body weight. So you got weaker as you got older because you stop training to walk or stop running because you sit more as a teen. Are you getting it yet. A toddler is strong for years because their athletic abilities match their size until they put those tools to rest they used to do basic things to get strong and catch mommy and daddy to keep up. Adults tend to push them, then try to slow them down when they get older. People also don’t tell children to stop sprinting daily. That’s what children do. Spring until out of breath and run again. That’s how they burn all those terrible calories adults shove in their face. A child will intermittent fast DAILY. No one says a word. Think about it. Most kids skip meal after meal but no one blinks. See nothing changes except your mindset as an adult. All of a sudden everything you did as a child is out the window. Want to know how to squat, watch a toddler bend down and pick something up. You never hear anyone stopping a baby and saying you picked that up wrong. Gymnasts train 8 hours a day. No one says a word except when it comes to an everyday gym goer and everyone wants to weigh in and say your not elite, but train slower, less, rest, eat this way. You have no clue their potential, genetic makeup or possibilities. No one ever told you what your completely capable of or you never tried. So how do you know what someone can do typing and reading on the cpu. There are people who waste their genetic potential daily. There are those who train to reach them that have no athletic ability but worked to achieve and look fantastic. Your training, nutrition and abilities are yours to unlock. Do what you feel and see what you can handle. I turn 45 in a few weeks and get asked daily if I play football. They have no clue, I’m 44 and have a 6 and 4 year old. They have no clue, I grew up playing basketball 6 days a week at 190-220. My current look and weight says different. Even my own father never was athletic, but had a son to grow over 6’5, 315 +, without trying. I was born prematurely @ 4.5lbs. You say you like training for six days a week! So aim for it. If things happen, like life, and you only get in 2 or 4, then at least you made it. You aim for 4 but get in 2? How would you feel then? You want to take a week off after going 6 full days after a few weeks, you’ll feel like a beast and say it’s ok, because the work you put in. Mindset is key. What you determine as a workout can just be maintenance to someone else and vice versa. All factors that mean something different to each individual. I could tell you more but you have people who are going tell you different and think otherwise. It’s ok. When you want train and get stronger as bad as you want to breathe then you will begin unlock your full potential, regardless of anything going on in your life.
Thanks for that bro. See thats how ive always thought about it. I was on here a couple years ago and i had a guy that kept coming into my log slamming me for too much volume and working out too often. But you know what i was gaining fast and i looked great and felt great and that was the strongest ive ever been. Im going to aim for 6 days a week. My shcedule will probably keep me at 4-5 most of the time but im not gonna sweat the whole overtraining thing unless i start to feel burnt out and run down. Ive always felt best when training 6 days a week. And if it starts to be too much then ill just take a few days off and reset. Going for it.
 
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For the guys that saw the last bench video at 325. 325x1 with my glutes in contact with the bench. Got a little squirrelly there but got it lol
 
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For the guys that saw the last bench video at 325. 325x1 with my glutes in contact with the bench. Got a little squirrelly there but got it lol
GOOD!! Little bit harder with your but down..GOOD STUFF BRO
I promise you this. You bench 2xs a week for 5 weeks you'll hit 350lbs.
As far as "lifting how you feel" we have 30 years of science, there is a certain way to get strong.
Now if that was your max, you may need a deload.
That brother was a REAL 325x1!!!!
 
Yeah what im thinking right now is testing maxes this week to get accurate working percentages. Then deload next week. The going forward with the 2xs a week system the following week. I mean im gonna do the 2x next week too. Just light
 
I'm going to suggest one more thing cuz I assume that's why you put your video on here for a little bit of advice.
Bro wrap those wrist wraps on your hand and your wrist.
It looks like your wearing sweatbands.
 
Thanks for that bro. See thats how ive always thought about it. I was on here a couple years ago and i had a guy that kept coming into my log slamming me for too much volume and working out too often. But you know what i was gaining fast and i looked great and felt great and that was the strongest ive ever been. Im going to aim for 6 days a week. My shcedule will probably keep me at 4-5 most of the time but im not gonna sweat the whole overtraining thing unless i start to feel burnt out and run down. Ive always felt best when training 6 days a week. And if it starts to be too much then ill just take a few days off and reset. Going for it.
You do what you want training wise. Just some of us that were giving advice have built lifts up.
I know for me, when I worked out everyday my lifts were stagnant. When I followed a program my lifts went up.
531 is your program? Its not designed for 6 days a week.
 
You do what you want training wise. Just some of us that were giving advice have built lifts up.
I know for me, when I worked out everyday my lifts were stagnant. When I followed a program my lifts went up.
531 is your program? Its not designed for 6 days a week.
Right i know that. I was thinking compounds 4 days. Accessories and hypertrophy the other 2. With the way my schedule is if i do 2 compound lifts in the morning that doesnt leave me much time for accessories and hypertrophy work which i like doing. So i dont see throwing a couple extra days in with hypertrophy focus hurting anything. If my lifts stall out and i cant gain for an extended period then ill revisit it. I gotta give that a while too though because ive got a ton of extra stress right now thats gonna be making it hard for me to gain already
 
Right i know that. I was thinking compounds 4 days. Accessories and hypertrophy the other 2. With the way my schedule is if i do 2 compound lifts in the morning that doesnt leave me much time for accessories and hypertrophy work which i like doing. So i dont see throwing a couple extra days in with hypertrophy focus hurting anything. If my lifts stall out and i cant gain for an extended period then ill revisit it. I gotta give that a while too though because ive got a ton of extra stress right now thats gonna be making it hard for me to gain already
Yup.
You got it. I'm not trying to run your workouts. I'm addicted to the gym too.
 
Oh my god you’re not going to overtrain on 6 1-hr sessions per week, Jesus people love to take things out of context. If you train full body for 2+ hrs 6x a week though it’s probably going to be a different story.

Chris, having a couple fluff days is great if you enjoy it. But it basically doesn’t count when we are talking about 3-4 days/wk, we mean of real work. There’s no comparison in the recovery demands of squatting, benching and rowing hard on Monday vs doing GHR, leg extensions, arms, abs and cable rowing on Tuesday after.
 
Oh my god you’re not going to overtrain on 6 1-hr sessions per week, Jesus people love to take things out of context. If you train full body for 2+ hrs 6x a week though it’s probably going to be a different story.

Chris, having a couple fluff days is great if you enjoy it. But it basically doesn’t count when we are talking about 3-4 days/wk, we mean of real work. There’s no comparison in the recovery demands of squatting, benching and rowing hard on Monday vs doing GHR, leg extensions, arms, abs and cable rowing on Tuesday after.
Yeah see thats what i meant. I do compound movements 4 days a week and then do accessories the other days. For a while there i was doing compound movements 6 days a week and was doing good still too though. And im talking 2 hour days there. But that works better on cycle honestly. Before i got all my extra stress added on i was still doing it too though and love it. Right now its just not an option with new baby cutting into sleep and all that though
 
Oh my god you’re not going to overtrain on 6 1-hr sessions per week, Jesus people love to take things out of context. If you train full body for 2+ hrs 6x a week though it’s probably going to be a different story.

Chris, having a couple fluff days is great if you enjoy it. But it basically doesn’t count when we are talking about 3-4 days/wk, we mean of real work. There’s no comparison in the recovery demands of squatting, benching and rowing hard on Monday vs doing GHR, leg extensions, arms, abs and cable rowing on Tuesday after.
Exactly. We were talking about squating and benching. Deads and overheads.
I'm just giving my 2 cents here anyways.

My main suggestion is bench at least 2xs a week....oh and squat before you bench.
Hahaha
Just keep posting videos big dog, that bench is improving!!
 
Back squat
135x10
225x5
275x3
315x1
365x1
405x1
415x1 PR in hindsight i think i shouldve kept going up. Think i couldve got 425. Oh well. Next time.

Front squat
135x10
225x5
295x1
315x1 PR (video above)

Followed up with leg press leg curls and leg ext
 
Hey 2 lifetime PRs is a great day - at least this way you know there’s more in the tank and you haven’t even found your limits right now. That can build a lot of confidence moving forward in your training.
 
PR'd my shoulder press today! 205 strict. My lifetime PR was 200 strict before this. Stoked about this. Shoulder press is always my slowest gainer. It takes forever to get 5 more pounds it seems like
 
Truth is.....your most likely over trained.
If you squated and benched in one day you may feel like resting more
Maybe. Ive just always thought that overtraining wasnt a real thing unless your an athlete training several hours a day every day. Ive gone stretches where i would train 6 days a week 2 hours a day and skip days off from time to time and still be gaining and feel fine. Its effecting me a little more nowadays with the extra stress of what ive got going on and with the new baby along with the other three kids cutting into my sleep and working construction full time. I still get grumpy when i have to take extra days off due to being too busy certain days. Especially now being on trt and not having the low t symptoms i feel ready to go every day
More to the point under recovered. Most people do not train hard enough to truly overtrain, but many train hard enough to not fully recover and run themselves down. The end result is the same.
You'll get stronger .
If you want strength gains you gotta do splits

Easy to get that CNS sizzling when life and work come and punch you directly in the teeth. It affects ze gainz.

Ok so how about this

Bench/squat

Possible accessory/off day

Deads/OHP

Off day

Squat/bench

Possible accessory day

Ohp/deads

On the compound days heavy weight low reps

Accessory days hypertrophy/ pump work

Also on the days where the focus is on, say, squat. How would i layout the bench work for that day?

My suggestion would be to follow this but in the beginning only do one of the possible accessory days a week then a few weeks later to push some progressive overload on frequency and volume you do the 2nd one if you feel like. Then when things start stagnating a little deload and lower volume and increase intensity again and repeat process or do something different.

You can train 5-6x/wk, and training consistently for years on end is the true key to progress regardless of split, but all things being equal giving yourself off-days to recover is superior for strength progress.

More isn’t necessarily better - better is better.
True story and becomes more true every year now for me.
 
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Looking good, everything is coming in nicely! What filter did you use on that picture? It looks cool!
 
You do what you want training wise. Just some of us that were giving advice have built lifts up.
I know for me, when I worked out everyday my lifts were stagnant. When I followed a program my lifts went up.
531 is your program? Its not designed for 6 days a week.

Yet I wrote the response to tell him plan for six because at times life will adjust you lower. Also , to gauge your workout and adjust accordingly. I guess this response was necessary as a complete rebuttal to contradict anything I mentioned.

Also, I can tell him how to train and make gains based on three days a week only. I won’t share that info. I’ll keep the rest of comments to myself. Apparently, your basically telling me I didn’t build my lifts at all or have in the past. In fact, all my gains were down without enhancements of any sort. Don’t even like protein powders. Been this way my entire life. Yet I still managed to grow to 6’5”, 300+ without trying. That’s what I do adjust according to goals, not care about someone thinking I’m overtraining or under training for that matter. I’ll stay out of responding going forward.
 
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