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Hi guys,

after some research, I managed to narrow down the options to the list below. My aim is to get a multi which covers the basics, without a lot of "exotic" stuff, not necessarily targeted to body building but for overall energy and well-being.

Which is the best in your opinion/experience? Is there anything missing?

Thanks a lot!

  1. AOR Ortho Core, this seems to be the best multi, however it's expensive. I was thinking that maybe I could try a 3 caps dosage, instead of the full 6 caps?
  2. Thorne 2/day, maybe a little high on B vitamins
  3. Now Foods Adam, good ingredients profile for men, dosage and price, however I don't like folic acid
  4. Naturelo, whole foods based, both the 4 caps and 1 cap versions seem great
  5. Garden of Life Mykind Organics, whole foods based
  6. Rainbow Light Men's One
  7. Orange triad, I've seen many rave reviews about this, however I'm wondering if it could be taken 4 caps instead of 6
 
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Hi guys,

after some research, I managed to narrow down the options to the list below. My aim is to get a multi which covers the basics, without a lot of "exotic" stuff, not necessarily targeted to body building but for overall energy and well-being.

Which is the best in your opinion/experience? Is there anything missing?

Thanks a lot!

  1. AOR Ortho Core, this seems to be the best multi, however it's expensive. I was thinking that maybe I could try a 3 caps dosage, instead of the full 6 caps?
  2. Thorne 2/day, maybe a little high on B vitamins
  3. Now Foods Adam, good ingredients profile for men, dosage and price, however I don't like folic acid
  4. Naturelo, whole foods based, both the 4 caps and 1 cap versions seem great
  5. Garden of Life Mykind Organics, whole foods based
  6. Rainbow Light Men's One
  7. Orange triad, I've seen many rave reviews about this, however I'm wondering if it could be taken 4 caps instead of 6
The Thorne looks good. Excess B vitamins get urinated out.
 

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to hell with a multivitamin. Most of them are garbage. They use cheap, low bioavailable forms of nutrients. Many fail to meet label claims. Additionally, they combine things like calcium and magnesium- just as one example- that compete for absorption and therefore are a waste.

Eat a good diet including some beef, seafood, whole eggs, and plenty of fruits and vegetables. Use iodized salt, supplement magnesium, fish oil and maybe zinc if you need it. At that point, you're covered. The shotgun formula in most of these multi's contains a lot of junk- like huge amounts of vitamin c- that you don't even need.
 
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I’ve been using optimen for about 6 years now. Used to take 3 a day when was a young buck, now I take one a day.
 
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Personally, I'd run Orange Triad (at the full recommended dosage). Very comprehensive formula that covers more than just vitamins/minerals. Good value at 45 servings, as well.
I'd agree. I've been an orange triad fan for awhile now and it's one of my go to multis.
 

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  1. Orange triad, I've seen many rave reviews about this, however I'm wondering if it could be taken 4 caps instead of 6
I run Orange Triad at 3 caps per day and I am very rarely ill. Which is surprising considering I work 65 hours per week, am in the gym for about 10 hours per week, use public transport and deal with hundreds of people face-face every week.
 
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Citadel Nutrition Athletes Multi



Or Millennium Sport MVP/ZMK. The cheapest good one is LIFE Extension 2 A day.
 
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I made a post in this thread, but for some reason it disappeared or got deleted or something.

I agree with @jrock645 on his points. But, I still take a multivitamin myself.I take Now Adam. It's not the perfect multi, and you're not going to find one out there unless you want to buy the Life Extension Multivitamin which is literally the kitchen sink multivitamin of them all. You can take a look at the ingredients below. Serving size 12 capsules per day.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS
Serving Size: 12 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30
Amount Per Serving %Daily Value
Vitamin A (as beta-carotene, acetate) (5,000 IU) 1500 mcg^ 167%
Vitamin C (as calcium ascorbate, ascorbic acid, ascorbyl palmitate, magnesium ascorbate, niacinamide ascorbate, acerola extract) 1000 mg 1111%
Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) (2,000 IU) 50 mcg 250%
Vitamin E (as D-alpha tocopheryl succinate, D-alpha tocopherol) 67 mg 447%
Thiamine (vitamin B1) (as thiamine HCl) 125 mg 10417%
Riboflavin (vitamin B2) (as riboflavin, riboflavin 5'-phosphate) 50 mg 3846%
Niacin (as 61% niacinamide, 38% niacin, 1% niacinamide ascorbate) 190 mg• 1188%
Vitamin B6 [as pyridoxal 5'-phosphate (100 mg), pyridoxine HCl (5 mg)] 105 mg 6176%
Folate (as L-5-methyltetrahydrofolate calcium salt) 400 mcg˚ 100%
Vitamin B12 (as methylcobalamin) 600 mcg 25000%
Biotin 3000 mcg 10000%
Pantothenic acid (as D-calcium pantothenate with 5 mg pantethine) 600 mg 12000%
Calcium (as Ca ascorbate, D-calcium pantothenate, Ca D-glucarate, dicalcium phosphate) 140 mg 11%
Iodine (as potassium iodide) 150 mcg 100%
Magnesium (as magnesium oxide, citrate, arginate, glycinate, taurinate, ascorbate) 420 mg 100%
Zinc (as zinc citrate, L-OptiZinc zinc mono-L-methionine sulfate) 35 mg 318%
Selenium [as sodium selenite, SelenoExcell high selenium yeast, Se-methyl L-selenocysteine 200 mcg 364%
Manganese (as manganese citrate, gluconate) 1 mg 43%
Chromium [as Crominex 3+ chromium stabilized with Capros amla extract (fruit), PrimaVie Shilajit] 500 mcg 1429%
Molybdenum (as molybdenum amino acid chelate) 125 mcg 278%
Potassium (as potassium citrate) 35 mg < 1%
Broccoli concentrate blend [broccoli powder, extract (sprout, floret, seed) (providing glucosinolates, sulforaphane), calcium D-glucarate] 725 mg **
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) 600 mg **
Decaffeinated green tea extract (leaf) [std. to 45% epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG)] 325 mg **
Acerola extract 4:1 (berry) 300 mg **
Inositol 250 mg **
Bitter orange citrus bioflavonoids (peel, fruit) [std. to 50% hesperidin] 200 mg **
Fruit/berry proprietary blend [European elder, blackberry, blueberry, sweet cherry, cranberry, plum, persimmon (Diospyros kaki) powders] 200 mg **
Taurine 200 mg **
Wild blueberry anthocyanin extract (fruit) 150 mg **
Sensoril Ashwagandha extract (root, leaf) [std. to 32% oligosaccharides, 10% glycoside conjugates] 125 mg **
Silymarin [from milk thistle extract (seed)] 100 mg **
Trimethylglycine (TMG) (as betaine anhydrous) 100 mg **
CherryPure sour cherry (tart cherry) proanthocyanidin powder (skin) 85 mg **
POMELLA pomegranate extract (fruit) [std. to 30% punicalagins] 85 mg **
Natural mixed tocopherols (providing gamma, delta, alpha, beta tocopherols) 60 mg **
MirtoSelect bilberry extract (fruit) 30 mg **
BioVin grape proanthocyanidin extract (whole grape) 25 mg **
Leucoselect grape seed proanthocyanidin extract 25 mg **
Bromelain [from pineapple (stem)] (2400 gelatin digestive units/gram) 15 mg **
Lutein [from marigold extract (flower)] (providing 465 mcg trans-zeaxanthin) 15 mg **
Olive extract (fruit) (providing polyphenols, hydroxytyrosol, tyrosol, oleuropein) 12.5 mg **
Sesame seed lignan extract 10 mg **
Luteolin [from orange extract (fruit)] 8 mg **
Apigenin 5 mg **
Boron (as boron amino acid chelate) 3 mg **
Lycopene [from LycoBeads natural tomato extract (fruit)] 3 mg **
Delphinidins [from Delphinol maqui berry (Aristotelia chilensis) extract (fruit)] 2 mg **
Cyanidin-3-glucoside (C3G) [from black currant extract (fruit)] 1.25 mg **
Trans-pterostilbene (from pTeroPure) 0.5 mg **
** Daily Value not established.
^RAE (retinol activity equivalent).
˚DFE (dietary folate equivalent).
•NE (niacin equivalent).
A multi is just meant to be a catalyst to help your body process food better, and I take ADAM in case I'm missing any nutrients for that day and maybe just as a preventative measure, although study after study has shown multis don't reduce colds, they don't reduce the risk of cancer, etc. Some of the ingredients can still be helpful.

But, mainly I take it so I can have neon yellow pee. Interesting fact: this is caused by the riboflavin in the multi, which the ancient Greeks had the foresight to make the word riboflavin in Latin mean "yellow".
 

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I made a post in this thread, but for some reason it disappeared or got deleted or something.

I agree with @jrock645 on his points. But, I still take a multivitamin myself.I take Now Adam. It's not the perfect multi, and you're not going to find one out there unless you want to buy the Life Extension Multivitamin which is literally the kitchen sink multivitamin of them all. You can take a look at the ingredients below. Serving size 12 capsules per day.



A multi is just meant to be a catalyst to help your body process food better, and I take ADAM in case I'm missing any nutrients for that day and maybe just as a preventative measure, although study after study has shown multis don't reduce colds, they don't reduce the risk of cancer, etc. Some of the ingredients can still be helpful.

But, mainly I take it so I can have neon yellow pee. Interesting fact: this is caused by the riboflavin in the multi, which the ancient Greeks had the foresight to make the word riboflavin in Latin mean "yellow".
thanks man. Yeah this is my aim as well. I'd like to cover the basics, so I'm not interested on "exotic" supplements. And I don't want to take more than 3, max 4 caps daily.

Orange Triad and NOW Adams look like the most recommended. I think that also whole-food based multi could be interesting (e.g. myKind organics).

That being said, this one seems great https://emeraldsupplements.com/product/multi-vit-a-min/ . No additives, the best ingredient types, and not a lot of fancy stuff. Maybe a little under-dosed, but not an issue for me. There is also the 1-day version.
What do you think man?

Thanks
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thanks man. Yeah this is my aim as well. I'd like to cover the basics, so I'm not interested on "exotic" supplements. And I don't want to take more than 3, max 4 caps daily.

Orange Triad and NOW Adams look like the most recommended. I think that also whole-food based multi could be interesting (e.g. myKind organics).

That being said, this one seems great https://emeraldsupplements.com/product/multi-vit-a-min/ . No additives, the best ingredient types, and not a lot of fancy stuff. Maybe a little under-dosed, but not an issue for me. There is also the 1-day version.
What do you think man?

Thanks
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One thing I hate in multis is they all use beta carotene as their source for vitamin A. Beta Carotene has been linked to lung cancer in former smokers and other individuals. I hate that and wish they would just use Retinyl version of vitamin A. Plus, you need to be eating some sort of fruit when you take carotenoids because if you just take the beta form, you're missing out on the alphas, deltas, omegas, etc and that what you would naturally get if you ate fruit. I think the only company I've seen do it right is Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men where they have MIXED carotenoids as the vitamin A source.

I can't find or remember the studies on why you're supposed to take the carotenoids together, but I remember that being an issue.



But, back to the multi you're looking at, it looks pretty standard. I don't see anything really special about it that stands out and for the price of $40 I'd say forget it, that's a waste of money for a very average multi.
 

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One thing I hate in multis is they all use beta carotene as their source for vitamin A. Beta Carotene has been linked to lung cancer in former smokers and other individuals. I hate that and wish they would just use Retinyl version of vitamin A. Plus, you need to be eating some sort of fruit when you take carotenoids because if you just take the beta form, you're missing out on the alphas, deltas, omegas, etc and that what you would naturally get if you ate fruit. I think the only company I've seen do it right is Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men where they have MIXED carotenoids as the vitamin A source.

I can't find or remember the studies on why you're supposed to take the carotenoids together, but I remember that being an issue.



But, back to the multi you're looking at, it looks pretty standard. I don't see anything really special about it that stands out and for the price of $40 I'd say forget it, that's a waste of money for a very average multi.
thanks man, according to the picture Emerald has a full spectrum of carotenoids, in the same way as Opti-men.
But in comparison to opti-men, Emerald uses methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin for B12 and has also folate instead of folic acid. IIRC folic acid when greater than RDA (like in opti-men) has been linked to cancer risk?
It has K1 and K2 (both MK4 and MK7, I think I've never seen a multi with both types, in addition they are non-soy derived).

Last but not least, there are a additives on opti-men (not a big deal, but Emerald has no additives), and there are other blends (Emerald has only a whole food blend - for what is worth). Actually, I'm not an fan of blends because I'm already taking adaptogens and amino acids separately.

That being said I don't work for Emerald, I want to clarify :) I agree that cost is a downside - I'm just saying that from an ingredient/formulation point of view it seems good (at least for people like me that want to cover the basics and don't want a lot of extras).

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thanks man, according to the picture Emerald has a full spectrum of carotenoids, in the same way as Opti-men.
I must have missed that or been looking at a different label. Then yeah, it would be fine in that case.

But in comparison to opti-men, Emerald uses methylcobalamin instead of cyanocobalamin for B12
The methyl version is definitely better, but that's also why the product is much more expensive. I was actually buying a product from Amazon with a blend of 3 different B12s because I heard it helped with canker sores and I had been getting a lot of them and it seemed to really help. It looks like they're out of stock of it though, last time I checked. I'm now using a product by Pure that had adenosyl/hydroxy b12. But, there must be a run on B12 because I can't find it either.

I used to inject B12 I bought from Synthetek and it had the cyano version and the hydroxy version. The methyl version is supposed to be good for brain health or something I believe.

and has also folate instead of folic acid. IIRC folic acid when greater than RDA (like in opti-men) has been linked to cancer risk?
I've never heard this, but, IMO this is another problem with multis - they always put way too much folate. Everyone started adding at least 400mcg of folate into their multis because either the FDA mandated it or recommended it because it prevents a very specific birth defect in children. That methyl tetra whatever folate thats in the Emerald one is actually used for people who can't absorb folate. I actually took a DNA test in my psych's office to find out what types of medicines would work best with me and they tested to see if I could absorb folic acid because that can lead to depression if you aren't getting it in your diet.

It has K1 and K2 (both MK4 and MK7, I think I've never seen a multi with both types, in addition they are non-soy derived).
Those are really good for your vein health and heart health. Don't be afraid of a little soy, it's actually good for you! :D


Last but not least, there are a additives on opti-men (not a big deal, but Emerald has no additives), and there are other blends (Emerald has only a whole food blend - for what is worth). Actually, I'm not an fan of blends because I'm already taking adaptogens and amino acids separately.
Usually any additional additives are just in there to keep the tablets bound together or fill out the capsules all the way. It's usually something pretty inert like magnesium sterenate or rice flour.

The whole food blend is kind of a gimmick. It's always a proprietary blend so you can't see what you're actually getting, but it's like 5mg of broccoli powder and 10mg of blueberries. Like, what's that going to do for you? That's what I see in a lot of those "greens" powder products too. It's always just underdosed, but it has stuff you recognize that you know is good for you.

That being said I don't work for Emerald, I want to clarify :) I agree that cost is a downside - I'm just saying that from an ingredient/formulation point of view it seems good (at least for people like me that want to cover the basics and don't want a lot of extras).
It's your call, man. It sounds like you've already made up your mind about it though. But $40 is really very pricey for a multi. I would rather spend that money on a big jug of whey or something than a multi you're really not going to get much benefit from or notice the difference of.

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I must have missed that or been looking at a different label. Then yeah, it would be fine in that case.



The methyl version is definitely better, but that's also why the product is much more expensive. I was actually buying a product from Amazon with a blend of 3 different B12s because I heard it helped with canker sores and I had been getting a lot of them and it seemed to really help. It looks like they're out of stock of it though, last time I checked. I'm now using a product by Pure that had adenosyl/hydroxy b12. But, there must be a run on B12 because I can't find it either.

I used to inject B12 I bought from Synthetek and it had the cyano version and the hydroxy version. The methyl version is supposed to be good for brain health or something I believe.



I've never heard this, but, IMO this is another problem with multis - they always put way too much folate. Everyone started adding at least 400mcg of folate into their multis because either the FDA mandated it or recommended it because it prevents a very specific birth defect in children. That methyl tetra whatever folate thats in the Emerald one is actually used for people who can't absorb folate. I actually took a DNA test in my psych's office to find out what types of medicines would work best with me and they tested to see if I could absorb folic acid because that can lead to depression if you aren't getting it in your diet.



Those are really good for your vein health and heart health. Don't be afraid of a little soy, it's actually good for you! :D




Usually any additional additives are just in there to keep the tablets bound together or fill out the capsules all the way. It's usually something pretty inert like magnesium sterenate or rice flour.

The whole food blend is kind of a gimmick. It's always a proprietary blend so you can't see what you're actually getting, but it's like 5mg of broccoli powder and 10mg of blueberries. Like, what's that going to do for you? That's what I see in a lot of those "greens" powder products too. It's always just underdosed, but it has stuff you recognize that you know is good for you.



It's your call, man. It sounds like you've already made up your mind about it though. But $40 is really very pricey for a multi. I would rather spend that money on a big jug of whey or something than a multi you're really not going to get much benefit from or notice the difference of.

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yeah man, I agree that 40$ is a lot of money. This, and even more the fact that I've never heard about Emerald Labs before, is holding me back.
Thanks for your insight!
 
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yeah man, I agree that 40$ is a lot of money. This, and even more the fact that I've never heard about Emerald Labs before, is holding me back.
Thanks for your insight!
Not a problem man, anytime.
 
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I was buying Life Extension Advance Packs on sale, much cheaper in the US. I think under $50, however it comes with joint support, fish oil, among other extras.
 
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I use the same vitamin and I do feel better on it. I endorse vitamins with only whole food ingredients.
Thanks man, yep I'm considering both Garden of Life's vitamin code and mykind organics. Also Naturelo has good reviews.
 

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Have a look at the Life Extension Two Per Day. Not a perfect formula, but very good considering its price. Some highlights:
  • Not a crazy high amount of alpha-tocopherol (which displaces other tocopherols) and they include a mixed tocopherol complex
  • 2000 IU of vitamin D
  • Good doses and forms of B vitamins (e.g. methylfolate, methylcobalamin)
  • Good dose of zinc (25mg) from 2 good forms
  • 3 forms of selenium including methylselenocysteine, not found in many supplements and apparently the most cancer-protective form
  • 3mg of boron, important for testosterone levels and protective against prostate cancer
  • Decent levels of other minerals incl. 150mcg iodine, 200mcg chromium
I still add a few extras to it (most importantly IMO vitamin K) but for $18 for 2 month supply I haven't found any formulas that beat it. I used to take OrthoCore but I'll take this instead and spend the money saved on more $upplements
 

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Have a look at the Life Extension Two Per Day. Not a perfect formula, but very good considering its price. Some highlights:
  • Not a crazy high amount of alpha-tocopherol (which displaces other tocopherols) and they include a mixed tocopherol complex
  • 2000 IU of vitamin D
  • Good doses and forms of B vitamins (e.g. methylfolate, methylcobalamin)
  • Good dose of zinc (25mg) from 2 good forms
  • 3 forms of selenium including methylselenocysteine, not found in many supplements and apparently the most cancer-protective form
  • 3mg of boron, important for testosterone levels and protective against prostate cancer
  • Decent levels of other minerals incl. 150mcg iodine, 200mcg chromium
I still add a few extras to it (most importantly IMO vitamin K) but for $18 for 2 month supply I haven't found any formulas that beat it. I used to take OrthoCore but I'll take this instead and spend the money saved on more $upplements
This is what I usually use nowadays and agree just wish it had some Vitamin K.
 
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This is what I usually use nowadays and agree just wish it had some Vitamin K.
Yeah, seems like they want you to buy their once daily health booster for the Vit K. $40 for 60 days though.
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I enjoy PES' TruMulti. I seem to be the only on on here who does, but we all have a history with, and hard feelings towards PES.

I like that it is selenium free. To much can be dangerous and I already get enough from brazil nuts. They also use some solid quality forms such as mixed tocopherol and vitamin K as NattoMK7. The addition of KSM-66, while not for everyone is a huge bonus for me .
 
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  • Now Foods Adam, good ingredients profile for men, dosage and price, however I don't like folic acid
Just curious - what is it about folic acid that you do not like?

I intentionally use it (with TMG and some other anti-homocysteine vitamins) because there is a family history of heart disease.
 

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I enjoy PES' TruMulti. I seem to be the only on on here who does, but we all have a history with, and hard feelings towards PES.

I like that it is selenium free. To much can be dangerous and I already get enough from brazil nuts. They also use some solid quality forms such as mixed tocopherol and vitamin K as NattoMK7. The addition of KSM-66, while not for everyone is a huge bonus for me .
Big fan of this but I have so much KSM and it’s in everything else so the overlap is always a bit much for me.
 
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  • And the amount of Vit K2 the Advanced Pack contains is in meaningful amounts.
 
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Are you still trying to pick a multivitamin out man? Sheesh! :LOL:
 

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Thanks man, yep I'm considering both Garden of Life's vitamin code and mykind organics. Also Naturelo has good reviews.
I also eat beef liver chips a couple times a week, which have a surprisingly robust nutritional profile.
 

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These multivitamins are pretty expensive but what about this one in comparison to the multipacks?

Also isn’t the C3G supposed to rival berberine? So could potentially eliminate a GDA
Perhaps but 1.25mg is nothing. For example, Biotests C3G supp is 600mg for comparison
 
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to hell with a multivitamin. Most of them are garbage. They use cheap, low bioavailable forms of nutrients. Many fail to meet label claims. Additionally, they combine things like calcium and magnesium- just as one example- that compete for absorption and therefore are a waste.

Eat a good diet including some beef, seafood, whole eggs, and plenty of fruits and vegetables. Use iodized salt, supplement magnesium, fish oil and maybe zinc if you need it. At that point, you're covered. The shotgun formula in most of these multi's contains a lot of junk- like huge amounts of vitamin c- that you don't even need.
Exactly. I use Shaklee life strips . Pricy but scientifically formulated .
 
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This is the one I personally have been using 8 plus years .
 
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One thing I hate in multis is they all use beta carotene as their source for vitamin A. Beta Carotene has been linked to lung cancer in former smokers and other individuals. I hate that and wish they would just use Retinyl version of vitamin A. Plus, you need to be eating some sort of fruit when you take carotenoids because if you just take the beta form, you're missing out on the alphas, deltas, omegas, etc and that what you would naturally get if you ate fruit. I think the only company I've seen do it right is Optimum Nutrition Opti-Men where they have MIXED carotenoids as the vitamin A source.

I can't find or remember the studies on why you're supposed to take the carotenoids together, but I remember that being an issue.



But, back to the multi you're looking at, it looks pretty standard. I don't see anything really special about it that stands out and for the price of $40 I'd say forget it, that's a waste of money for a very average multi.
just picked up opti-men at wal mart for $20.
 

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