Chocamine + Rhodiola =
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Go into details bish. You can't tease us like that.
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BigVrunga said:A canister of bulk Chocamine
Ahh I see.
I thought you meant a total of 550mgs of them and I though hmmm that is what Chaos has lol oops
Taurine: ----------------------------------------------1500 mg
Acetyl-L-Carnitine: --------------------------------2000 mg
Creatine Ethyl Ester: ------------------------------3000 mg
Di-Arginine Malate: --------------------------------2000 mg
Citrulline Malate: -----------------------------------2000 mg
Glucuronolactone: ---------------------------------2000 mg
N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine: -------------------------------250 mg
Rhodiola Rosea: -------------------------------------175 mg
Chocamine(in caff. version, contains 40mg caff.): --------500 mg
Caffeine Annhydrous(in caff. version): ---------------50 mg
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BigVrunga
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Ive been meaning to fabricate a nootropic-based stimulant/focus/mood elevator for a while now, so this week I was ahead a little cash and put an order in with Custom.
Got Chocamine, Tyrosine, Vinopocetine, ALCAR, L-Tyrosine, Choline, and had the Rhodiola and Piracetam in the cabinet already. Im trying to work out a testing protocol so I can gauge the effects of each before I go combining them, to find out which compounds synergize with eachother, etc.
Anyway, tonight's experiment was 550mg of Chocamine and Rhodiola on an empty stomach. Definite, but mild, euphoric push and it made my skin feel a little tingly. Definite mood elevation.
I'd like to try combining with Hordenine, as that is reportedly a selective MAO-B inhibitor which would make the PEA in the Chocamine orally active.
BV
Got Chocamine, Tyrosine, Vinopocetine, ALCAR, L-Tyrosine, Choline, and had the Rhodiola and Piracetam in the cabinet already. Im trying to work out a testing protocol so I can gauge the effects of each before I go combining them, to find out which compounds synergize with eachother, etc.
Anyway, tonight's experiment was 550mg of Chocamine and Rhodiola on an empty stomach. Definite, but mild, euphoric push and it made my skin feel a little tingly. Definite mood elevation.
I'd like to try combining with Hordenine, as that is reportedly a selective MAO-B inhibitor which would make the PEA in the Chocamine orally active.
BV
BigVrunga
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Hordenine is supposed to be an MAO-B inhibitor, and by MAO-B, the PEA in the Chocamine should become orally active. Its described pretty well here, in this review of Ergopharm AMP over at mind and muscle:
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Piracetam is known to increase neural membrane permeability, which could help potentiate the effects of the combination.
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It also seems to combine well with any substance that affects the brain's function.
BV
WannaBeHulk
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good info here. i experimented with a couple of these substances last night and had a good time. i took 3 heat which includes hordenine coupled with 1/8 tsp of customs PEA and 2g phenibut. i have zero experience with all of these and this was my first time trying this but i feel it was a success. my goal was to party with as little alcohol as possible. i did take 3 shots on top of the stack and my mood was definitely enhanced. extreme euphoia was experienced. note that i havent touched alcohol since new years but i think this does indeed intensify its effects. i got messed up on about 300 cals of alcohol!!! it was great but i do feel like garbage today. oh well, ill combine these again most likely next time i wanna drink... probably wont be for a couple months.BigVrunga said:
Rivet
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BigVrunga said:
I’ve tried amp, pea/hordenine combo and amp+Piracetam. The amp alone was ok+really hyper, amp+piracetam was similar but I was more clear headed. The pea/hordenine= made me feel pretty damn happy and hyper but it was more controlable. Myself I preffer just the pea/hordenine combo as I find it feels cleaner and more enjoyable.
BigVrunga
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Thanks for the input guys!! Im gonna pick up some bulk Hordenine today as soon as Custom's site comes back up.
Ive been using ALRI Primed as pre workout booster for the past couple weeks now - stuff works great and today I decided Id give it a little boost based on last nights experiment...
400mg Chocamine, 400mg ALCAR, 200mg Choline bitartarate. 2 hours and an intense leg day and I'm STILL buzzing and focused. Almost feel a little too wired actually. (the caffeine from the Primed + Chocamine + morning coffee is probably the culprit here - ~300mg which is about 3x more than Im used to)
About 5 minutes into my cardio warmup, I started sweating way more than usual - Primed alone does not do this for me. It was an obvious and sustained metabolic boost.
BV
Ive been using ALRI Primed as pre workout booster for the past couple weeks now - stuff works great and today I decided Id give it a little boost based on last nights experiment...
400mg Chocamine, 400mg ALCAR, 200mg Choline bitartarate. 2 hours and an intense leg day and I'm STILL buzzing and focused. Almost feel a little too wired actually. (the caffeine from the Primed + Chocamine + morning coffee is probably the culprit here - ~300mg which is about 3x more than Im used to)
About 5 minutes into my cardio warmup, I started sweating way more than usual - Primed alone does not do this for me. It was an obvious and sustained metabolic boost.
BV
WannaBeHulk
rollin' on dubs!
yeah, its always great to find any way to party while staying somewhat disciplined/commited to our lifestyles. definitely should give it a try, it may have been the best mood ive been in for awhile and im generally a happy personBigVrunga said:
update: the hungover feeling has subsided after my 2nd meal. my stomach felt way better after eating a big serving of green beans and guacomole with my chicken. i actually feel up to hitting a leg day now when training seemed questionable earlier :woohoo:
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WannaBeHulk said:
The hungover feeling is most likely from the phenibut and not the alcohol. For me at least, 2g is a definite "hangover" the next day. It and piracetam potentiate the effects of alcohol. I like to use 3 caps of phenibut before going out (which doesn't happen much these days
). The phenibut tends to calm me on its own, and combined with alcohol it gives me a prolonged mild buzz for hours. 2 beers feels like much much more without the negatives. I normally take one cap when leaving, and 2 when I'm at a concert/drinking. I don't go out just to drink, so there was to be a good band playing to warrant such a stack :dance: TSC
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ersatz said:
I must be a pea/hordenine hyper-responder. I know DS's Basic Cuts has me feeling happy at 2 caps for a couple of hours and mildly energetic for a little while after that. If that’s even low intensity damn I want to try high intensity! Problem is I developed a rather quick tolerance (didn’t work at any dose) to it after just one week of use and just 4caps a day (2xmorn 2xpre workout). I do find if I take that combo with food it takes longer to "peak" but the effects last much longer.
tsc said:The hungover feeling is most likely from the phenibut and not the alcohol. For me at least, 2g is a definite "hangover" the next day. It and piracetam potentiate the effects of alcohol. I like to use 3 caps of phenibut before going out (which doesn't happen much these days
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Damn unlike the pea/hordenine heres where I’m a low responder. 2 grams of Phenibut would never even phase me. My second and last use of phenibut ever was at 4g and it barely did anything. I get more from half a glass of wine
