seems like the golden ratio of epiandro to androsterone was 3:1 (this was the ratio in AndroHard V3 - the last version before PP was shut down) - this is why we formulated Ultra Hard to be 375mg epiandro and 125mg androsterone per application.
The Ultra Epi does have a pretty hefty dose of TD epiandro at 450mg/application.
we have seen some users report issues with lethargy on alpha seven - that contains 200mg androsterone per application.