CEL Labs H-Drol PH Cycle: First PH

SFWarrior

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Hey,

Im new to AM been a great fan of the reviews hear for a while and this is my first post on here. Just signed up today and already learned alot of cool things about the site. I hope I can network and talk with many of you more as well. Now since the intro is done:

Here's my Stats:

Height: 5' 10 1/4"

Weight: 182 lbs

BF %: 8%

Lets get to my stack:

PH:
H-Drol by CEL with Cycle Assist
Potency: 50/75/75/75/100
Resversitol by iForce as PCT along with Novedex XT (maybe tell me what you think guys)

Protein:
IsoMASS Extreme Gainer by Ultimate Nutrition (I know not the greatest)[immediatly post-workout]

Creatine:
Neovar by Applied Nutraceuticals (4 post-workout and 3 mid-day)

Pre-Workout:
RPM/Drive by Applied Nutraceuticals (3 and 3 pre-workout one hour prior)

Mood Enhance:
Drive by Applied Nutraceuticals (3 more mid-day)

Multi-Vitamin:
Animal Pak by Universal Nutrition (one pak mid-morning/one pak with dinner)

BCAA/EAA:
Uni-Liver by Universal Nutrition (4 tabs per meal and pre and post workout)

Cycle Assisting Products:
Vitamin C 1000mg -1 pre/intra/and post workout and two more throughout my day to block cortisol
Milk Thistle 700mg (pre-cycle) - two in the morning and two at bedtime [175 mg per capsule]
Taurine 500mg - 2 tablets mid-morning and on mid-afternoon

Diet:

Total kCal Intake: 3250-3790 calories

Protein Intake: 195-215 grams

Carbohydrate Intake: 380-420 grams

Fat: 95-110 grams

Two Replacements a day:
1-Mass Gainer Shake

2-Protein Meal Replacement Bar

Other than that 4 to 5 meals the rest of the day


Training Split:

Day 1-Arms (Bi's and Tri's; Forarms)

Day 2- Back (Upper and Lower Lats; total back complex), Traps

Day 3- Chest (Upper,Lower,Outer, and Middle), Shoulders

Day 4-Arms (Bi's, Tri's, Shoulders) [Hypertrophic rep range]

Day 5-REST

Day 6- Legs (Quads, Hams, and calves) [Would split up if I had the time]

Day 7- REST



Hope you all enjoy this tracking of my gains and progress, thanks for any of you who tune in.
 
your gonna loose your virginity to hdrol?

nice i wanna see this

good luck
 
Hey now calm down haha kinda wanted to do an h-drol/m-drol stack thought that itd be a good stack but cosidering that m-drol is basically a superdrol clone it might be little rough to start...still wish i would jumped on when Tren Extreme was out BIG regret
 
nice. I've used CEL hdrol and Primordial Performance hdrol and both were great.
 
SFWarrior said:
Hey now calm down haha kinda wanted to do an h-drol/m-drol stack thought that itd be a good stack but cosidering that m-drol is basically a superdrol clone it might be little rough to start...still wish i would jumped on when Tren Extreme was out BIG regret
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the UK is our friend

plu ditch the hdrol i think epi would pair better with sd
 
OP, there's no need to use 100mg Hdrol. Especially since this is your first cycle. I'd recommend you just stick with 50mg to be honest.

Save Drive for PCT as it'll make a nice addition during that time.
 
im not sure if you states this OP but im assuming by your diet that you plan to bulk or atleast clean bulk, which brings up the question why didnt you just go with pmag instead of hdrol?
pmag is also milde for the most part except its a better bulker than hdrol and you see results quicker
 
Thanks for all the feedback...I thought about pmag and wasn't quite sure on the potency, dosing etc.

So how about this dossing for H-Drol: 50/50/75/75/50 or 50/50/75/50/50
Im also understanding that 5 weeks is the best length of cycle
 
mw1 said:
Going over 75 mgs usually causes more sides than gains(I would definitely be using something like Cycle Assist) -- For PCT if you want to go OTC then dont use a prop blended one;). Inhibit E, PCT Assist would be fine for hdrol
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Ill be doing my second H-drol cycle in few months and Im considering an OTC PCT, Inhibit E or Erase or Triazole which AI would you recommend..and how would you taper look like (example 0/3/2/1). thanks bro
 
fightclub2012 said:
Ill be doing my second H-drol cycle in few months and Im considering an OTC PCT, Inhibit E or Erase or Triazole which AI would you recommend..and how would you taper look like (example 0/3/2/1). thanks bro
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I've used Inhibit E and Erase but have not tried Triazole which is why i dont personally reccommend it. Inhibit E can be dosed 3/2/2/1 or 2/2/2/1(pretty much the same with Erase)
 
FCrane said:
OP, there's no need to use 100mg Hdrol. Especially since this is your first cycle. I'd recommend you just stick with 50mg to be honest.

Save Drive for PCT as it'll make a nice addition during that time.
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Wrong.. 100mg of Halodrol is the only dose I would use.. Anything less is sub par..
 
I do not recommend the use of ATD for PCT..... It is a terrible choice..
Erase or formestane is the best choice if you were going to chose an AI..
Get a good test booster too, like sustain alpha topical or hcgenerate..
 
mw1 said:
I've used Inhibit E and Erase but have not tried Triazole which is why i dont personally reccommend it. Inhibit E can be dosed 3/2/2/1 or 2/2/2/1(pretty much the same with Erase)
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awesome, thanks bro. on loading hawthrone berry whats the dose, I saw a thread and you had a pretty good setup on dosing cycle assist and H-drol etc. I'll do a search. thanks again.
 
I think this question and rating will help alot of people, so anyone thats on this board give a rating if you could.

What is the best dosage rate for H-Drol by CEL:

50/50/50/50/50 = #1

50/50/75/75/100 = #2

50/75/75/100/100 = #3

50/75/100/75/50 = #4

75/75/75/75/75 = #5

75/100/100/100/75 = #6


Give me a rating and tell me why and I will post the results of everyones ratings in a few days...Thanks
 
IMO 75/75/75/75/75/100
or if you wanna go for a big bulk then 75/100/100/100/100

but i think if i was to bulk with this i would just ditch it and go with pmag
thats just me though
 
JCunningham said:
I do not recommend the use of ATD for PCT..... It is a terrible choice..
Erase or formestane is the best choice if you were going to chose an AI..
Get a good test booster too, like sustain alpha topical or hcgenerate..
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JC how does Erase compare to Inhibit E. I know your not into ATDs for pct, and I know your big on SERMS, and I agree with you, SERMS are the way to go period. just would like to know if you tried either and which, if at all possible would be ok for OTC PCT....I have liquid Nolva, and would like pills instead but they hard to find.
 
SFWarrior said:
I think this question and rating will help alot of people, so anyone thats on this board give a rating if you could.

What is the best dosage rate for H-Drol by CEL:

50/50/50/50/50 = #1

50/50/75/75/100 = #2

50/75/75/100/100 = #3

50/75/100/75/50 = #4

75/75/75/75/75 = #5

75/100/100/100/75 = #6


Give me a rating and tell me why and I will post the results of everyones ratings in a few days...Thanks
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#5 ... I'm doing this stacked with Androhard and am getting some pretty sweet gains. I started Andro a week earlier then hdrol so I'm on my 4th week of Andro and 3rd week of hdrol.
I was wanting to cut and get a leaner, harder look. It's coming along pretty good now. Good luck with your cycle.
 
FCrane said:
What?! You would actually recommend going to 100mg for someone's first cycle? You're out of your mind.
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He will see **** gains for his first cycle if you recommend 50mg!!! That is too weak even for a beginner.. Might as well use ****ing pink magic.. 75-100mg is perfect.. Most sides he will see is a back pump.. BooHoo... Cry me a river..


And to other guy.. Erase is not anti androgenic, therefore it is a better AI to use than ATD.. Formestane is pro androgenic, meaning heightened libido and energy therefore it is better than erase for PCT.. But any AI is going to be better than ATD period.. Except for letro..

I am pro serm..
But I am more pro AI/SERM
 
JCunningham said:
He will see **** gains for his first cycle if you recommend 50mg!!! That is too weak even for a beginner.. Might as well use ****ing pink magic.. 75-100mg is perfect.. Most sides he will see is a back pump.. BooHoo... Cry me a river..


And to other guy.. Erase is not anti androgenic, therefore it is a better AI to use than ATD.. Formestane is pro androgenic, meaning heightened libido and energy therefore it is better than erase for PCT.. But any AI is going to be better than ATD period.. Except for letro..

I am pro serm..
But I am more pro AI/SERM
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cool and thanks bro..AI/SERM how would you dose them together, and is liquid nolva crap. I used it in my 1st pct with no problems or sides, but always wondered if pills were better.

And I would agree on 1st H-drol cycle you can go up to 100mg, but I went up on my last week, I could have gone up on my last 2 weeks, but opted not to, wish i did tho lol
 
fightclub2012 said:
cool and thanks bro..AI/SERM how would you dose them together, and is liquid nolva crap. I used it in my 1st pct with no problems or sides, but always wondered if pills were better.

And I would agree on 1st H-drol cycle you can go up to 100mg, but I went up on my last week, I could have gone up on my last 2 weeks, but opted not to, wish i did tho lol
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I would get clomid IMO, better for recovery..
Pharm grade pill form is better as you know what you are getting..
If you can only get nolva it will do..

Erase :75/75/75/75/50/50
Nolva:20/20/20/20
or
Clomid:50/50/50/50

Forma Stanzol:60/60/60/60/40/40
Nolva:20/20/20/20
or
Clomid:50/50/50/50
 
JCunningham said:
He will see **** gains for his first cycle if you recommend 50mg!!! That is too weak even for a beginner.. Might as well use ****ing pink magic.. 75-100mg is perfect.. Most sides he will see is a back pump.. BooHoo... Cry me a river..


And to other guy.. Erase is not anti androgenic, therefore it is a better AI to use than ATD.. Formestane is pro androgenic, meaning heightened libido and energy therefore it is better than erase for PCT.. But any AI is going to be better than ATD period.. Except for letro..

I am pro serm..
But I am more pro AI/SERM
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There are countless positive reviews of people using Hdrol at 50mg
 
mw1 said:
Ther are countless positive reviews of people using Hdrol at 50mg
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I dont doubt that..
They must respond amazingly to the compound.
Also, higher the dose and you get a higher conversion to t-bol..
Yes I know halo compound is already active, but with halo, more is better..
And he shouldnt experience sides at 75-100mg so no reason to not dose that high.
And if he did get sides, which I doubt he would if he drinks his water like he should, then he could easily drop his dose down 25mg..
 
JCunningham said:
He will see **** gains for his first cycle if you recommend 50mg!!! That is too weak even for a beginner.. Might as well use ****ing pink magic.. 75-100mg is perfect.. Most sides he will see is a back pump.. BooHoo... Cry me a river..


And to other guy.. Erase is not anti androgenic, therefore it is a better AI to use than ATD.. Formestane is pro androgenic, meaning heightened libido and energy therefore it is better than erase for PCT.. But any AI is going to be better than ATD period.. Except for letro..

I am pro serm..
But I am more pro AI/SERM
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I think you've been on cycle too long, bro. :p
 
JCunningham said:
I would get clomid IMO, better for recovery..
Pharm grade pill form is better as you know what you are getting..
If you can only get nolva it will do..

Erase :75/75/75/75/50/50
Nolva:20/20/20/20
or
Clomid:50/50/50/50

Forma Stanzol:60/60/60/60/40/40
Nolva:20/20/20/20
or
Clomid:50/50/50/50
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JC your definitely speaking from experience, and Im totally thankful for your input and suggestions.. so bascially take them together with the AI for 6 weeks and the SERM for 4 weeks.. yeah I have some liquid "N" left over, but I rather get sum pillz... I'll do a search for Clomid, is there a particular pharm brand I should look into..
 
Alright, Gentlemen...Here is my log on of Day 1 on Halodrol...

Workout- 6/10
I did a double chest split today, and im so sure if it was the best idea, Im having so weird chest pains today, and pains along the left side of my body...Been kind of freaking me out, but I only took 25 mg of the H-Drol today, and I really don't think its because of that because it didnt happen until I took my second round of stims pre workout on my second chest workout, also threw some arms in too so...im not quite sure what my problem is, I might quit RPM/Drive and try to sleep this pain off.

Nutrition: 9/10
All my nutrition has been spot on today save for my second post-workout meal today, been feeling like complete ****ing ****

Supplementation: 5/10
Not really sure whats going on with me today, im really hoping tomorrow when I wake up ill feel alot better, again ive been have some weird pains on my left side and I'm not quite sure if I may have taken too much Vit-C 6 grams, too much Taurine 4 grams, or 3 servings total of SuperPump 250 2 total serving of RPM and Drive

Tell me what you guys think about this
 
I would lay off the stims while on-cycle due to the increase stress they put on your body. It's more beneficial to leave them for PCT anyway. The H-drol should be more than enough to give you a good workout. It's too early (obviously) in the cycle anyway to be feeling any lethargy from the product.

Long story short....forget the stims, pre-wo's, or anything like that until after the cycle. You taking any type of cycle support? Hawthorne Berry? Fish Oil? Vitamin E?
 
Day 2: Ok so yeah it had to be the stims....bottom line I'm pretty sure H-Drol enhances my mood but in return gives me back pumps...lol...im surprised this early but it also is my first cycle so...

Workout: N/A Rest Day

Nutrition: 10/10
My nutrition has been perfect carb, protein, fat and total kCal intake:

kCal Intake: 3800

Protein Intake: 200 grams

Carb Intake: 435 grams

Fat Intake: 110 grams

Supplementation: 9/10
supplement timing was perfect except for support supps forgot to take my fish oil today...lol

As for my support supps:
Vit-C: 6 grams a day
Cycle Assist by CEL
Triple Strength Fish Oil w/ Krill Oil: 900mg/300mg (krill)
TriFlex-Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM Complex
-Note: I work at GNC so thats were i get those from anyways
Extra Milk Thistle- 350 mg
 
Day 3: No back pumps today, some muscle cramping, and horrible migraines

idk what the first three days are supposed to feel like so, could be somewhat the weather too...

Didn't workout today gonna do legs tomorrow morning, straight up boys, SQUAT 'TIL YOU PUKE!!!

Diet was spot on as usual so I should be good havent stepped on the scale to see any fluxuation either...missed a little water intake today too

The first dose of H-Drol gave me bad migraines for a few hours, the second dose intially didnt feel anything and then my stomach started to hurt, but again im sure im just getting used to the product soo...no REAL complaints yet...cause it DEFINATELY helped my mood haha
 
SFWarrior said:
Day 3: No back pumps today, some muscle cramping, and horrible migraines

idk what the first three days are supposed to feel like so, could be somewhat the weather too...

Didn't workout today gonna do legs tomorrow morning, straight up boys, SQUAT 'TIL YOU PUKE!!!

Diet was spot on as usual so I should be good havent stepped on the scale to see any fluxuation either...missed a little water intake today too

The first dose of H-Drol gave me bad migraines for a few hours, the second dose intially didnt feel anything and then my stomach started to hurt, but again im sure im just getting used to the product soo...no REAL complaints yet...cause it DEFINATELY helped my mood haha
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how much water are you drinking a day, on cycle I drank about 2 gal a day, no bs, and are you spacing your hdrol from your cycle assist(at least 4 hrs).
your getting all sort of sides on just a few days of cycle. hows your blood pressure?...
 
Im taking the cycle assist WITH the hdrol, iguess bad idea, been drinking abou 1/2 gallon water

my past two days have been real good actually, i know genetically that anyone in my family always would get sishpildes from these kind of things within the first week...

here is a good question though: Should i be taking something like Novedex WHILE on hdrol?
 
SFWarrior said:
Im taking the cycle assist WITH the hdrol, iguess bad idea, been drinking abou 1/2 gallon water

my past two days have been real good actually, i know genetically that anyone in my family always would get sishpildes from these kind of things within the first week...

here is a good question though: Should i be taking something like Novedex WHILE on hdrol?
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IMO no, you might want to try CEL's Formestane with your cycle, although I think its for a harsher compound, drink more water and eat as much as possible, H-drol am 4hrs later CA. H-drol pm 4hrs later CA, thats what CEL suggests.
 
fightclub2012 said:
IMO no, you might want to try CEL's Formestane with your cycle, although I think its for a harsher compound, drink more water and eat as much as possible, H-drol am 4hrs later CA. H-drol pm 4hrs later CA, thats what CEL suggests.
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x2........
 
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