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CARBS Only POST WRKOUT? OR Every day?

DrAbs989 said:
@ OP: i agree with UKStrength on this one, i usually go for 20g carb slam + 20g dextrose mixed in my WPI (25-30g) p.w.o shake, & this done year-round regardless of whether i'm trying to bulk or cut.
i never really liked the 2:1 carb to protein ratio recommended by some. if you really wanna see this stuff do something amazing, take 1 cap of like anabolic pump/pslin/slin-sane or anything similar, wait 15 mins, then down a mix of WMS (30-60g) mixed in some juice. insane pumps !
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Ill have to give that a shot! So your talking pre-WO? Slam my carb drink and take some NO pre, well my NO is always pre but take some carb slam pre and i should get insane pumps huh? thks!
 
crazyfool405 said:
other Glucose transporters dont NEED insulin, hence why you can see microvascular problems in diabetics, the sugar is still absorbed without the presence of insulin.
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Which diabetics, type I or type II? I've never read this before. Other GLUTs are not really relevant for BBers since GLUT2 are found in the liver, GLUT3 are found on neurons and GLUT5 are fructose transporters. They are not something that can can really manipulate via training or diet.
 
Robboe said:
Which diabetics, type I or type II? I've never read this before. Other GLUTs are not really relevant for BBers since GLUT2 are found in the liver, GLUT3 are found on neurons and GLUT5 are fructose transporters. They are not something that can can really manipulate via training or diet.
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both diabetics,

eyes, and kidney can absorb glucose absent of insulin
 
Aghhh here we go! The video i was looking 4! This Trainer talks about the most important meal of the day, your PWO Meal! Eat a High Glycemic Carb like a banana! P.S. add the rest of the hyper link stuff before youtube.

youtube.com/watch?v=JUV3_Smo9nI&playnext_from=TL&videos=9JFsaFxS1iY
 
EasyEJL said:
And you're aware that the RDA was established by the department of agriculture? Whose primary crops they are responsible for are hmm oh I dunno carbs? Thats why the food pyramid is so screwball as well.

There are essential amino acids
There are essential fatty acids
There are no essential carbs.

Ketosis diets are set up even for children who experience seizures to lessen the seizures and they generally are set up at less than 50g of carbs a day.

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So no, carbs aren't necessary. Are they good and handy? Sure as they make up generalized calories. But thats really it. I'm not going to get 3200 calories from all protein + fat sources, its a pain and no fun. But the idea of slamming 100g of dextrose down postworkout to "activate the anabolic window" is ludicrous.
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Damn, Easy you beat me too this!!!!! Good stuff though, you said it much better than I could have, no doubt there.

Well minus the whole 3200 cals from protein+fat. I have done that and will do it again, you're right though isn't not really fun. I may hit close to the 5000 mark this winter ;)
 
Where do people get this ratio of 2:1 carbs/protein PWO as being ideal from? (research?)
 
purebred said:
Where do people get this ratio of 2:1 carbs/protein PWO as being ideal from? (research?)
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of course not,







we learned from the Greats at Muscletech:box:
 
I love it when people do things without actually knowing why they're even doing it. It's quite the entertainment.
 
purebred said:
Where do people get this ratio of 2:1 carbs/protein PWO as being ideal from? (research?)
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a single study done showing after a fasted first thing in the morning workout, that 10g of protein was absorbed faster when taken with 20g of dextrose than with nothing.
 
EasyEJL said:
a single study done showing after a fasted first thing in the morning workout, that 10g of protein was absorbed faster when taken with 20g of dextrose than with nothing.
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You're joking, right? :grumpy:
 
Well just 4get the 2:1 ratio crap, just in general Protein and carbs PWO is good! Cant go wrong can you!? Retorical Q.
 
purebred said:
You're joking, right? :grumpy:
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There might have been a second or third study basically re-creating the first with similar results. It was a good study, pretty thorough and with statistically significant results. But really only valid for fasted workouts, and no telling if the ratio stays the same as the amount of protein ingested goes up. or no telling if the same works out if you just take 30g protein :)
 
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