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I have found several Pre-Workouts make it hard for me to pee (enlarged prostate?) but I have not been able to narrow down what ingredient causes this? It also happens with Bronkaid ??? Anyone else experience this ?
 
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I have found several Pre-Workouts make it hard for me to pee (enlarged prostate?) but I have not been able to narrow down what ingredient causes this? It also happens with Bronkaid ??? Anyone else experience this ?
Sounds like the result of a heightened sympathetic nervous system.


Better than prostate issues.
 
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I have found several Pre-Workouts make it hard for me to pee (enlarged prostate?) but I have not been able to narrow down what ingredient causes this? It also happens with Bronkaid ??? Anyone else experience this ?
Stimulants can cause some urinary frequency/urgency and ephederine can cause retention, especially if someone has BPH.
 
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Sounds like the result of a heightened sympathetic nervous system.


Better than prostate issues.
That doesn't sound like it, because I really feel like i have to go but cant ....
 
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I've felt this way when using potent and/or high-dose vasoconstrictors. This is just a guess, but I imagine it works in the opposite capacity of a smooth muscle relaxer (think Flomax).
 
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That doesn't sound like it, because I really feel like i have to go but cant ....
Even with a raised sympathetic nervous system, you can feel like you have to go. Do you have prostate issues?
 
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Take some tadalafil with your stims. IME it alleviates what you're describing and is awesome for pumps and you know... other benefits...
 
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Can you imagine how badly these stims are affecting your muscles ability to work...
 

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Aside from tadalifil or flowmax what would help urination in this instance? This happens to me when i take ephedrine.
 
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This is be cause of an enlarged prostate. And it even happens to some extent in men with normal size prostate.Vasoconstrictors constrict prostatic capsule and cause urine retention and urinatry issues.
 
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This is be cause of an enlarged prostate. And it even happens to some extent in men with normal size prostate.Vasoconstrictors constrict prostatic capsule and cause urine retention and urinatry issues.
I think you are correct, now I just need to fix it!

Alcohol?
I consume Zero Alcohol
What's your water intake like?
I drink about a gallon a day of water and about 48oz of coffee.
Aside from tadalifil or flowmax what would help urination in this instance? This happens to me when i take ephedrine.
Ephedrine will triger this for me also!

Take some tadalafil with your stims. IME it alleviates what you're describing and is awesome for pumps and you know... other benefits...
This is worth a try for sure!

Even with a raised sympathetic nervous system, you can feel like you have to go. Do you have prostate issues?
According to my Dr. I do have a slightly Enlarged Prostate (I believe this is normal for my age 61)

I've felt this way when using potent and/or high-dose vasoconstrictors. This is just a guess, but I imagine it works in the opposite capacity of a smooth muscle relaxer (think Flomax).
I was prescribed Flomax years ago and this is the acts exactly the same as before it was prescribed!

Thank you all for your Help and Feedback !!
 
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I think you are correct, now I just need to fix it!!!
I’m not sure there’s much you can do for that other than not using stims from now on.
I’m almost 50 and although my prostate seems to be of normal size I have some symptoms of bph and it get worse with tu the use of stims and specially ephedrine. Even taking vasodilators (not talking about tadalafil or sildenafil etc..) don’t help so I had to stop vasoconstrictors.
If you find a solution let me know :)

Have you tried yohimbine? If so did you experience the same with yohimbine?
 
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I’m not sure there’s much you can do for that other than not using stims from now on.
I’m almost 50 and although my prostate seems to be of normal size I have some symptoms of bph and it get worse with tu the use of stims and specially ephedrine. Even taking vasodilators (not talking about tadalafil or sildenafil etc..) don’t help so I had to stop vasoconstrictors.
If you find a solution let me know :)

Have you tried yohimbine? If so did you experience the same with yohimbine?
I just tried Get Desiel - Diesel Fuel yesterday it has some Yohimbine in it and I had the same problem, but not nearly as bad as I have had with other products.
 
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This product I had a very bad reaction to, which ingredient do you think could have caused the problem ???
 
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I don’t see any that can have an impact on the prostate other than caffeine that can irritate the prostate and bladder.

I don't either, but I don't think it is Caffeine, coffee has no effect on this problem and neither did the last tub of PWO (Campus Fuel) which is a stim based caffeine product. I am baffled ????
 
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The ephedrine is def a culprit.

But I dont see anything either in that last PWO pic that would be an issue. Maybe there's an artificial flavoring or preservative that we aren't identifying?
 
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I took a small dose of Tadalafil yesterday and today with my PWO and i believed it help, I know for sure in a few days .......
 
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This product I had a very bad reaction to, which ingredient do you think could have caused the problem ???
Are you also taking in multiple cups of coffee a day?
Are you still taking a stimulated fat burner too!?

I know you have a VERY high caffeine intake per day. There is a law of diminishing returns. You would benefit greatly from taking a step back on your caffeine intake and reducing the amount you take from various sources.
 
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Are you also taking in multiple cups of coffee a day?
Are you still taking a stimulated fat burner too!?

I know you have a VERY high caffeine intake per day. There is a law of diminishing returns. You would benefit greatly from taking a step back on your caffeine intake and reducing the amount you take from various sources.
They strange thing is when I was at my highest caffeine intake I had no problem, it wasn't till i switched PWO that the problem showed up.
 
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Not sure your daily caffeine intake but I take a slew of different supplements and have never had any issue like this. I do keep my preworkout caffeine intake to 250mg or less. 200mg is really all you need for pre-workout. I only use caffeine for preworkout purpose anyways, so not every day. I take 20mg cialis 3 days a week.
 
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Not sure your daily caffeine intake but I take a slew of different supplements and have never had any issue like this. I do keep my preworkout caffeine intake to 250mg or less. 200mg is really all you need for pre-workout. I only use caffeine for preworkout purpose anyways, so not every day. I take 20mg cialis 3 days a week.
I have ruled caffeine out as the culprit, but I am still baffled.............
 
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I experience something similar. It's not that I can't go but it's more I feel a sensation like I need to go more than normal and it's "weak" to go. Only have experienced this with Olympus labs original Reign and also their old Bloodshed Raw (not sure if War version did it but Raw sure did). Every other pre no matter the caffeine amount I have no issue.
 
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I experience something similar. It's not that I can't go but it's more I feel a sensation like I need to go more than normal and it's "weak" to go. Only have experienced this with Olympus labs original Reign and also their old Bloodshed Raw (not sure if War version did it but Raw sure did). Every other pre no matter the caffeine amount I have no issue.
Yes, Very similar issue !!
 
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All the various amphetamine analogs, ephedrine, eria j, all the high-powered stuff definitely impacts my ability to get erect post training, but never any issues peeing - I am only 29 and never have prostate issues on cycle though.

Easily the most logical solution is just back the stims down. They do nothing positive from a health perspective once you get past modest doses (which you exceed, because you are a Stim lover like me) and you don’t even need high performance in your training - you are bodybuilding and need a good pump and some focus primarily.

Pygeum, celery seed, pumpkin, & saw palm are all prostate supps you could investigate. Tony Huge says pygeum gives him bigger loads
 

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I take pumpkin seed extract and it can make taking a piss take longer than usual FYI.

Getting older sucks.
 
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These kids don't understand ....
 
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I have ruled caffeine out as the culprit, but I am still baffled.............
I think you may be a little mistaken. You may be fine drinking coffee, as a cup has maybe 100 my if that.

But just because 100 my of caffeine doesn't cause a certain effect, doesn't mean that 1 gram won't.

Adding up all the coffee, plus the caffeine in the pre plus other potential implicated compounds in the pre - and you may only have issues when the pre pushes you over your limit.

In order to create the micturation reflex to urinate, your body releases acetylcholine.

Caffeine stimulates the nervous system, which causes the release of acetylcholine.

The more you stimulate, the more Ach is released...and you may trigger the feeling that you have to urinate. Essentially you are artificially replicating the system that normally signals the need to urinate.

Notice the pre you posted above, which you said created a strong reaction, has a strong dose of caffeine PLUS citicholine - which will help create more acetylcholine.

Finally, please be aware that mixing PDE inhibitors like sildenafil/viagra with random pre workouts may not be the safest thing to do. People do it all the time I know, and I don't mean to be alarmist, but there is some theory it could cause potentially dangerous issues I believe.
 
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Could be the artificial sweetener. Are you drinking other products throughout the day that have artificial sweeteners in them? I'm not a believer that artificial sweeteners are bad for you, but have found that if I ingest too much, I get the urgency to have to pee even if I just went.
 
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Could be the artificial sweetener. Are you drinking other products throughout the day that have artificial sweeteners in them? I'm not a believer that artificial sweeteners are bad for you, but have found that if I ingest too much, I get the urgency to have to pee even if I just went.
I do use Stevia in my coffee
 
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I think you may be a little mistaken. You may be fine drinking coffee, as a cup has maybe 100 my if that.

But just because 100 my of caffeine doesn't cause a certain effect, doesn't mean that 1 gram won't.

Adding up all the coffee, plus the caffeine in the pre plus other potential implicated compounds in the pre - and you may only have issues when the pre pushes you over your limit.

In order to create the micturation reflex to urinate, your body releases acetylcholine.

Caffeine stimulates the nervous system, which causes the release of acetylcholine.

The more you stimulate, the more Ach is released...and you may trigger the feeling that you have to urinate. Essentially you are artificially replicating the system that normally signals the need to urinate.

Notice the pre you posted above, which you said created a strong reaction, has a strong dose of caffeine PLUS citicholine - which will help create more acetylcholine.

Finally, please be aware that mixing PDE inhibitors like sildenafil/viagra with random pre workouts may not be the safest thing to do. People do it all the time I know, and I don't mean to be alarmist, but there is some theory it could cause potentially dangerous issues I believe.
Now you have me rethinking things !
 
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I experience something similar. It's not that I can't go but it's more I feel a sensation like I need to go more than normal and it's "weak" to go. Only have experienced this with Olympus labs original Reign and also their old Bloodshed Raw (not sure if War version did it but Raw sure did). Every other pre no matter the caffeine amount I have no issue.
Reign had that effect on me as well!
 
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Try keeping track of your daily caff intake. I notice if I go over 600mg I get the side effects. Harder to piss and erections aren't great. I've learned through lots of caff abuse the 400mg daily rec is there for a reason.
 
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Not so long ago, we did not take any stims and we had wicked great workouts and results.
We could sleep, get it up and be anxiety free. wtf is wrong with people taken in by marketing that you need to stim your face off at the cost physical and mental well being to get gains? In fact, much less gains due to the toxic state ones system finds itself.
 
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Any artificial sweetener or a specific one?
I never really narrowed it down, but it got better for me after I stopped drinking Crystal Light and they use a few in theirs.
 
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I have taken a dose of Tadalafil for the last 3 days and No Problems, I think I will skip tomorrow and see what happens. The week of the 16th I will be out of town on business for week, I am going to take a brake from working out and stims. When I come back I will cut back on the caffeine and see what happens.
 
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I have taken a dose of Tadalafil for the last 3 days and No Problems
Are you saying tadalafil fixed your retention issue? What dosage did you take? were you using preworkouts or caffeine on these days?
 
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Are you saying tadalafil fixed your retention issue? What dosage did you take? were you using preworkouts or caffeine on these days?
15MG of RC Tadalafil and yes the same Dose of PWO and Caffeine as other days.
 
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15MG of RC Tadalafil and yes the same Dose of PWO and Caffeine as other days.
Dang 15mg every day you are definitely gonna earn the name “Rocket”. That’s what I did for my honeymoon lol
 
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Dang 15mg every day you are definitely gonna earn the name “Rocket”. That’s what I did for my honeymoon lol
It is an RC and very weak ....... I skipped today, I think I can go every other day.
 

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