Guys, I am gonna side with the OP on this. You are all wrong...provided he is drinking very cold water.
Now, if he drank a gallon of water that was COLD, like 3 degrees Celsius. The body would need to heat that to 34 degrees (human body temp).
It takes 1 calorie to raise a gram of water 1 degree C.
A gallon of water weighs about 3785 grams.
3785 grams x 34 degrees = 128,690 calories.
We are really talking kcals though, so almost 129 calories are burned.
Well, kind of. There is heat in our bodies that is already wasted and just sitting there, ready to heat the water or dissipate. So in the real world this isn't exact...but that gallon could likely save him at least 50 calories.
Drinking 10 gallons of cold cold water is like spending an hour on a treadmill at 5 mph. Shred city.
I was twitching reading this until it became obvious it was satire. You big stinkah!!!!
You got me thinking, rather than drinking cold water surely the same principle could be applied if external temperature was lowered......thus the idea of ice baths in fast food joints has been born....
Yes this is very true, not only does an ice bath work but so does cryogenic treatments in a cryo chamber. I got noticeably leaner without dietary changes when I was doing cryo stuff twice a week during my meet prep. It was like I added in cardio all of the sudden.
Well, actually - ice baths would burn more calories than drinking water. I mean, you could "easily" get in a bath with 20-30 gallons of ice and try to melt it with your own body heat...although, this may kill you because you won't be able to heat the ice fast enough. But if you could find a cold temp that you could survive and heat up a bunch of water through your body heat, you would burn more cals of course...basic physics.
BUT, being in cold environments also causes the creation of brown fat (at least in theory) - so beyond getting the actual calorie burn from heating the water, your body would adjust and create new ways to burn more calories all the time (through brown fat) - thus increasing metabolism even when not in the cold bath.
Not sure I'd advise going to extreme on this though.
No need for extremes 15 minutes in an ice bath would benefit your entire body and not risk hypothermia. Professional athletes with access to ice tubs do this all of the time.
I literally had this chat with a friend earlier. Another mate of ours is about 30-40lbs overweight, he’s smashing the gym loads but still eating ****e and getting no where.
Just crazy how people either don’t get it or suddenly don’t want it enough to not smash down a tub of ice cream every Saturday
Now now, don't go saying he is not getting anywhere. He is making improvements for sure!!!! His weight may not be going down but he is increasing muscle mass, as well as his general conditioning and I am sure somewhat his heart health. He is just not making aesthetic progress. People can be overweight but in excellent condition. I know overweight people in far better aerobic condition then I am. Can run miles at a time and have excellent health markers. They just also eat what they want so to those of us that vanity guides a lot of our motivation this is not progress but the most important progress to be made from exercise is better health, and they are getting that even if not dieting how we see fit.
Could the results be better certainly but Baby steps are better for longevity. If anything like me the more discipline he shows with training the gradually more disciplined he will be on nutrition. Lifting is fun and I still want to stay home sometimes, or skip a very hard exercise on occasion. That is showing a lack of discipine on something I like to do... Dieting sucks so it is going to be that much harder to do it better because there is no enjoyment factor to restricting food or food choices. So for me my training gets in line first then my nutrition follows. Will probably be similar for him if he sticks with it.
Right on.
You have to decide mentally if you are ready to make the sacrifice. Not to get to the gym. That's the easy part... but once you do, make the commitment to yourself to eat right and power that body that is going to the gym and working so hard. It's an insult otherwise.
I don't now why it would be an insult... nothing insulting about it. People have to come to their own decisions on when they are ready to make sacrifices or if for THEIR goals if the sacrifice makes sense or seems too large for them to handle at the time. Besides, I don't think you can offend exercise, or nutrition, so who would be getting insulted? Would you feel insulted by someone else working out but not following a diet plan? If so the question there is why? Their efficiency in obtaining their goals has no bearing on anyone but themselves.
And in your last 4 words you identified the problem.....most people don’t sacrifice enough out of the rest of the day to make room for that in their calories. My point was that his nutrition is poor hence why no progress despite hitting it hard in the gym.
I know all the theory that you can whatever you like and obtain your ideal body composition as long as you hit your macros - I personally don’t think this approach is sustainable as eating crap too often makes you feel like crap thus hindering adherence. It’s also much easier to consume excess calories from junk food.
Well, again, achieving ideal body composition has NOTHING to do with feeling like crap. It has to do with caloric balance, a little timing and a little but macro choices. Think about bodybuilding prep, most of it is spent feeling like crap! Most people who follow IIFWM appropriately still have about 80% of the diet in clean choices and they are also paying attention to Micro nutrients, this keeps them healthy. Those who achieve success with that type of eating actually have to track closely to make it work.
Now a lot of others do it less efficiently, and less health consciously. No doubt eating a high percentage of processed junk is not going to lead to feeling optimal. However I also feel that these people would also not do well on a strict diet they are expected to track things on.
