Can Slin-Sane actually INCREASE anabolism on a bulk?

[Aesthetics20]

As per dosing instructions "You should be able to increase your carbohydrate intake higher than a normal “bulking” phase with the use of Slin-Sane, due to its favorable nutrient partitioning effects you won’t have to worry about excess fat gain. Take 1 capsule before 3 carbohydrate heavy meals and up your carbs by about 20-30% above intake for normal muscle building phases. Be sure to take a serving before your workouts, and sip on a fast absorbing carb+protein shake while training. You should notice a significant increase in pump and vascularity during the workout, and noticeably faster muscle gain over the course of usage."

Has anyone found that they put on muscle at a quicker rate than normal when Slin-Sane was added in during a bulk?

 

[mr.cooper69]

No. Gymnema sylvestre is a carbohydrate blocker, and reduction of insulin output via banaba's upregulation of Glut4 will actually affect feedback loops in a manner that will quell anabolism.

Do not modify your diet because you are taking slin-sane. You won't put on muscle faster, but higher insulin sensitivity is quite healthy and I use slin-sane from time to time.

 

[vicesoldier]

No. Gymnema sylvestre is a carbohydrate blocker, and reduction of insulin output via banaba's upregulation of Glut4 will actually affect feedback loops in a manner that will quell anabolism.

Do not modify your diet because you are taking slin-sane. You won't put on muscle faster, but higher insulin sensitivity is quite healthy and I use slin-sane from time to time.

Perfect Coop

 

[Aesthetics20]

No. Gymnema sylvestre is a carbohydrate blocker, and reduction of insulin output via banaba's upregulation of Glut4 will actually affect feedback loops in a manner that will quell anabolism.

Do not modify your diet because you are taking slin-sane. You won't put on muscle faster, but higher insulin sensitivity is quite healthy and I use slin-sane from time to time.

Dang, I just bought 2 bottles of SS to stack with 2 bottles of X-Factor Advanced...planning on starting the XFA cycle Monday. So dosing SS 3x/day could actually inhibit my gains on this cycle?

 

[vicesoldier]

Dang, I just bought 2 bottles of SS to stack with 2 bottles of X-Factor Advanced...planning on starting the XFA cycle Monday. So dosing SS 3x/day could actually inhibit my gains on this cycle?

What's your dosing protocol?

 

[Aesthetics20]

What's your dosing protocol?

The genomyx recommendation for bulking is "Take 1 capsule before 3 carbohydrate heavy meals and up your carbs by about 20-30% above intake for normal muscle building phases. Be sure to take a serving before your workouts, and sip on a fast absorbing carb+protein shake while training. You should notice a significant increase in pump and vascularity during the workout, and noticeably faster muscle gain over the course of usage" so I was planning on taking it 15 minutes before breakfast, 15 minutes before my pre workout meal, and 15 minutes before another carb rich meal closer to bed time. And if I plan on having a cheat meal, I'll take 2 15-30 minutes before.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Dang, I just bought 2 bottles of SS to stack with 2 bottles of X-Factor Advanced...planning on starting the XFA cycle Monday. So dosing SS 3x/day could actually inhibit my gains on this cycle?

Perhaps I came off too harshly. Slin-sane will not potentiate anabolism but it will not diminish it either UNLESS dosed too high (i.e. 3-4 caps at once; efficacious dose of gymnema being 600mg-1g). Slin-sane has positive effects on health and should absolutely be used with high carb meals (the exception being postworkout). Also, I hope you are dosing the XFA using the optimal method:

Take it on workout days only.
4 caps preworkout
2g Carnitine of choice preworkout (I like LCLT or ALCAR)
6g Glycerol Monostearate preworkout

 

[vicesoldier]

You can also take it before bed time which has some evidence of gh release with constant SS use

 

[Aesthetics20]

Perhaps I came off too harshly. Slin-sane will not potentiate anabolism but it will not diminish it either UNLESS dosed too high (i.e. 3-4 caps at once; efficacious dose of gymnema being 600mg-1g). Slin-sane has positive effects on health and should absolutely be used with high carb meals (the exception being postworkout). Also, I hope you are dosing the XFA using the optimal method:

Take it on workout days only.
4 caps preworkout
2g Carnitine of choice preworkout (I like LCLT or ALCAR)
6g Glycerol Monostearate preworkout

Ok, so you don't think dosing 1 pill 2-3x/day before high carb meals will have any negative effect on my bulk?

Actually, funny that you mention that. I was planning on dosing it as you recommend, because I've seen many very successful logs with that protocol. However, I PM'ed a rep who told me that avoiding off day dosing is more economical but yield lesser gains, and he also told me to split up the doses 1/1/1/1 with meals for best chances at putting on LBM. I'm thinking of doing 4 pre training, and 4 on off days for a week or two, then just strictly dosing pre workout.

You can also take it before bed time which has some evidence of gh release with constant SS use

 

[mr.cooper69]

Ok, so you don't think dosing 1 pill 2-3x/day before high carb meals will have any negative effect on my bulk?

Actually, funny that you mention that. I was planning on dosing it as you recommend, because I've seen many very successful logs with that protocol. However, I PM'ed a rep who told me that avoiding off day dosing is more economical but yield lesser gains, and he also told me to split up the doses 1/1/1/1 with meals for best chances at putting on LBM. I'm thinking of doing 4 pre training, and 4 on off days for a week or two, then just strictly dosing pre workout.

No I do not believe it will have a negative impact.

I disagree with that representative and feel that is minimizing the bang-for-your-buck as far as ArA is concerned. If you are training 4-5 days a week, use it preworkout only (no offdays).

 

[vicesoldier]

No I do not believe it will have a negative impact.

I disagree with that representative and feel that is minimizing the bang-for-your-buck as far as ArA is concerned. If you are training 4-5 days a week, use it preworkout only (no offdays).

Same here I'm a cheapskate so I'd just use xfa the days I workout

 

[Aesthetics20]

No I do not believe it will have a negative impact.

I disagree with that representative and feel that is minimizing the bang-for-your-buck as far as ArA is concerned. If you are training 4-5 days a week, use it preworkout only (no offdays).

Yeah I train 5 days a week (2 on 1 off 3 on 1 off), have you noticed gains in LBM using this method?

 

[mr.cooper69]

Yeah I train 5 days a week (2 on 1 off 3 on 1 off), have you noticed gains in LBM using this method?

Tough to say about the LBM. I've used it twice during a cut, and I've noticed an accelerated leaning out effect (for which I have no explanation) and greater strength retention (and thus, likely LBM as well). If you're training 5 days a week, definitely use it on workout days only.