Can I just get some Damn sleep??? Sponsored log of Abyss by Nimbus

justreading said:
I got a pretty awsome job for what I was aiming for. I wanted to work in sales focussing on up-selling or growing accounts and i also had an interest in recruiting. Starting next week I will be working with Manpower. I will be staffing positions for major accounts like IBM, American Express, NBC ect and working to grow our NYC contracts. The hours are AMAZING for the recruiting industry and the pay is the same at the 11 hour a day jobs!

I wanted any job to hold me over until the Officer application process went through but since it takes a couple years around here, i am very happy i got something this good.

Because of my interview process I have been using Phenibut so i have taken WAY to many days off of my log and I appologize guys but if I didn't get a job my savings would be gone and i wouldn't be able to pay rent (you're all good guys so i knew it wouldn't be a problem.)

I will take tonight off then I will be using it everyday until I start (monday or tuesday) to reset my internal clock.
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Awesome to hear JR, glad you landed a stellar job like that. Hope you like it, and who knows it might actually be right up your alley. Theres alot of money to be made in any sales career.

Looking foward to the log re-load.:D
 
justreading said:
I got a pretty awsome job for what I was aiming for. I wanted to work in sales focussing on up-selling or growing accounts and i also had an interest in recruiting. Starting next week I will be working with Manpower. I will be staffing positions for major accounts like IBM, American Express, NBC ect and working to grow our NYC contracts. The hours are AMAZING for the recruiting industry and the pay is the same at the 11 hour a day jobs!

I wanted any job to hold me over until the Officer application process went through but since it takes a couple years around here, i am very happy i got something this good.

Because of my interview process I have been using Phenibut so i have taken WAY to many days off of my log and I appologize guys but if I didn't get a job my savings would be gone and i wouldn't be able to pay rent (you're all good guys so i knew it wouldn't be a problem.)

I will take tonight off then I will be using it everyday until I start (monday or tuesday) to reset my internal clock.
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Congrats on landing a great job my friend! No worries on the log...I completely understand. Looking forward to hearing how ABYSS starts working for you again! :)

Workin
 
Just found out I am going to the South Florida / Rutgers game tomorrow night. The GF's father might have some pull with the police near us so it's a great networking opportunity because he is a huge Rutgers fan and wants us to go with him...

I just took 5 Abyss. I'll get my update up either first thing in the AM or at my lunch time tomorrow.
 
NIGHT 6

Went very well. Took 5 at around 10:30, went to bed at 11:45 and was asleep just after 12 WITH MY GF HERE!! (haha)

Slept through the night without getting up to go the bathroom till about 7am, alarm went off at 7:30 and got up just fine. I did need a large coffee and 5mg yohimbine to really get moving but thats normal for a stim freak like me.

Once I got moving I was able to take prep tests at the library for 2 hours without feeling sleepy which is unheard of for me. I have NEVER been in a library without falling asleep.

This was a very positive experience.
 
justreading said:
NIGHT 6

Went very well. Took 5 at around 10:30, went to bed at 11:45 and was asleep just after 12 WITH MY GF HERE!! (haha)

Slept through the night without getting up to go the bathroom till about 7am, alarm went off at 7:30 and got up just fine. I did need a large coffee and 5mg yohimbine to really get moving but thats normal for a stim freak like me.

Once I got moving I was able to take prep tests at the library for 2 hours without feeling sleepy which is unheard of for me. I have NEVER been in a library without falling asleep.

This was a very positive experience.
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Excellent feedback! Glad to hear you were able to sleep even with your girlfriend next to you! "ABYSS...building stronger relationships." lol! ;)

Workin
 
justreading said:
NIGHT 6

Went very well. Took 5 at around 10:30, went to bed at 11:45 and was asleep just after 12 WITH MY GF HERE!! (haha)

Slept through the night without getting up to go the bathroom till about 7am, alarm went off at 7:30 and got up just fine. I did need a large coffee and 5mg yohimbine to really get moving but thats normal for a stim freak like me.

Once I got moving I was able to take prep tests at the library for 2 hours without feeling sleepy which is unheard of for me. I have NEVER been in a library without falling asleep.

This was a very positive experience.
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Thats awesome man! I was really rootin for ya.
 
Night 7

Took 5 at 10:15 - Got sleepy around 11:15 and went to bed at 12:05, asleep by 12:15...

Got woken up by the phone but fell asleep again alright. I did get up to go the bathroom 1-2 times but thats not so bad.

Tonight showed me something more about the days I don't take Abyss. Yesterday I didn't take it and I was a zombie all day but today I feel much more normal so far.

Got a good 7 hours of sleep I would guess and feel better today than I did yesterday when I didn't take Abyss.

Overall last night goes on the plus side. The strange thing about Abyss is 2 out of 3 nights it will knock me out but on the third night (not necessarily in order) it will just provide a better rest (though still not a complaint ha).

So far this supplement looks like one I will buy after my log which says a lot from me because I only buy individual bulk powders 90% of the time.
 
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justreading said:
Night 6

Took 5 at 10:15 - Got sleepy around 11:15 and went to bed at 12:05, asleep by 12:15...

Got woken up by the phone but fell asleep again alright. I did get up to go the bathroom 1-2 times but thats not so bad.

Tonight showed me something more about the days I don't take Abyss. Yesterday I didn't take it and I was a zombie all day but today I feel much more normal so far.

Got a good 7 hours of sleep I would guess and feel better today than I did yesterday when I didn't take Abyss.

Overall last night goes on the plus side. The strange thing about Abyss is 2 out of 3 nights it will knock me out but on the third night (not necessarily in order) it will just provide a better rest (though still not a complaint ha).

So far this supplement looks like one I will buy after my log which says a lot from me because I only buy individual bulk powders 90% of the time.
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Excellent feedback as usual...thanks JR!

Workin
 
justreading said:
Night 6

Took 5 at 10:15 - Got sleepy around 11:15 and went to bed at 12:05, asleep by 12:15...

Got woken up by the phone but fell asleep again alright. I did get up to go the bathroom 1-2 times but thats not so bad.

Tonight showed me something more about the days I don't take Abyss. Yesterday I didn't take it and I was a zombie all day but today I feel much more normal so far.

Got a good 7 hours of sleep I would guess and feel better today than I did yesterday when I didn't take Abyss.

Overall last night goes on the plus side. The strange thing about Abyss is 2 out of 3 nights it will knock me out but on the third night (not necessarily in order) it will just provide a better rest (though still not a complaint ha).

So far this supplement looks like one I will buy after my log which says a lot from me because I only buy individual bulk powders 90% of the time.
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Good to hear JR, glad it's working for you. The alterations in effects could be due to systemic buildup, and or decreased sensativity due to the phenibut intake you've had. Still if it's getting you to feel well rested then it's still working it's magic.:thumbsup:

Good feedback my friend.
 
I took 2 more nights off because for the next week I will need to take Abyss every night.

I noticed that I definetly feel worse during the day when I don't take Abyss at night. I get a feeling that I describe as "my body fighting against my mind" when it comes to sleep. This is something that is familiar to me in the past but I would best describe it as; my body rejecting my minds attempt to sleep. As a result full sleep is never achieved.

This had gone away for a while (all though remnants of this still happen normally) but on my off days from Abyss it has been worse than it has in recent memory. Still I would not blame this on abyss but rather credit abyss for being able to overcome some exitatory conditions in my life at the moment.
 
justreading said:
I took 2 more nights off because for the next week I will need to take Abyss every night.

I noticed that I definetly feel worse during the day when I don't take Abyss at night. I get a feeling that I describe as "my body fighting against my mind" when it comes to sleep. This is something that is familiar to me in the past but I would best describe it as; my body rejecting my minds attempt to sleep. As a result full sleep is never achieved.

This had gone away for a while (all though remnants of this still happen normally) but on my off days from Abyss it has been worse than it has in recent memory. Still I would not blame this on abyss but rather credit abyss for being able to overcome some exitatory conditions in my life at the moment.
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Exact same thing happens to me! Only cure is a stim.
 
justreading said:
I took 2 more nights off because for the next week I will need to take Abyss every night.

I noticed that I definetly feel worse during the day when I don't take Abyss at night. I get a feeling that I describe as "my body fighting against my mind" when it comes to sleep. This is something that is familiar to me in the past but I would best describe it as; my body rejecting my minds attempt to sleep. As a result full sleep is never achieved.

This had gone away for a while (all though remnants of this still happen normally) but on my off days from Abyss it has been worse than it has in recent memory. Still I would not blame this on abyss but rather credit abyss for being able to overcome some exitatory conditions in my life at the moment.
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Great update JR.

Workin
 
justreading said:
I took 2 more nights off because for the next week I will need to take Abyss every night.

I noticed that I definetly feel worse during the day when I don't take Abyss at night. I get a feeling that I describe as "my body fighting against my mind" when it comes to sleep. This is something that is familiar to me in the past but I would best describe it as; my body rejecting my minds attempt to sleep. As a result full sleep is never achieved.

This had gone away for a while (all though remnants of this still happen normally) but on my off days from Abyss it has been worse than it has in recent memory. Still I would not blame this on abyss but rather credit abyss for being able to overcome some exitatory conditions in my life at the moment.
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Do you get these same effects with consecutive days off?
 
The day after tiredness definetly happens on consectutive days off. As far as the night time trouble, I honestly don't remember
 
NIGHT 8

Back on the A train last night. I took 5 a bit later than I would like (balancing the empty stomach thing was hard). I was VERY restless last night and felt like staying up all night so abyss had an uphill battle. About an hour and a half after I took it I was able to fall asleep. Slept very well and didn't wake up once for 6.5 hours until my alarm went off. I didn't want to get out of bed and felt like I could sleep more BUT I was easily able to make myself get up. Right now I feel much much more energized than I have the last few days when I was off abyss eventhough I took more stimulants then (just a large iced coffee today.)

I have a feeling that I would love to go take a nap but am not very tired if that makes sense...? I could easy fall back asleep but also can easily be alert and productive. Also I am oldy in a good mood today...
 
I also want to add that I felt "with it" faster than normal. Normally I am like a 70's diesel mack truck from hell, it take me FOREVER to function in the morning but with abyss that lag time has been reduced and I actually feel ok during the day and sleepy at night instead of the other way around...

I hope this observation continues to be true because my new job is dragging its heels on my paperwork to start but when they do I will need to be ready to rock hard at 8am
 
Great to hear your getting some good results JR, and it's making you feel good too. Who knows it could help in setting some new PR's down the road.:D Being well rested can do that.:thumbsup:
 
Night 9

Don't remember this one too well right now since it was a couple nights ago. I slept well but got to bed a bit late. I was still groggy the next day but that was the first time this caused this for me when most sleep aids do this everytime. Worked well again but the groggyness wasn't ideal.

Night 10

Slept very well and woke up the next day without a problem. I have felt generally happier on the days I take ABYSS then when I don't. I have been taking 5 but I might try 4 instead a couple times.

Sorry these night aren't as in depth as I have been but the product works and there is only so much I can say about that each and every night.


Question for you guys:

NP sent me three sample of venom lean dreams, would you like me to take them on my off days to compare face to face?
 
You could do that, but since it contains tryptophan hows about you dose it after the intial run of Abyss. That way you will not run the chance of interference with your Abyss "on" days(or any carry over).

That would be my suggestion but it's up to you my friend.:thumbsup:
 
prld2gr8ns said:
You could do that, but since it contains tryptophan hows about you dose it after the intial run of Abyss. That way you will not run the chance of interference with your Abyss "on" days(or any carry over).

That would be my suggestion but it's up to you my friend.:thumbsup:
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I eat over a pound of ground turkey a day so I am sure I take in tryptophan every day ha
 
justreading said:
Night 9

Question for you guys:

NP sent me three sample of venom lean dreams, would you like me to take them on my off days to compare face to face?
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If you do decide to do that, I would take Lean Dreams 3 nights in a row...no ABYSS. Then switch back to ABYSS and you should really notice the difference.

Workin
 
Last night was a night off but I slept well anyway. I think my internal clock has already been reset from sleeping from 4am to 11am to from 1am to 8am. My next goal for abyss will be to get me sleeping from 11pm to 6am or just before. I will hopefull be able to take abyss at 9:30pm, eat just before 11 and then get to sleep. I really can't imagine being able to sleep that early but then again going to bed at 1am felt impossible before as well.
 
justreading said:
Last night was a night off but I slept well anyway. I think my internal clock has already been reset from sleeping from 4am to 11am to from 1am to 8am. My next goal for abyss will be to get me sleeping from 11pm to 6am or just before. I will hopefull be able to take abyss at 9:30pm, eat just before 11 and then get to sleep. I really can't imagine being able to sleep that early but then again going to bed at 1am felt impossible before as well.
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Looks like a good plan. Goal setting is important in everything we do.... even a sleep schedule.:D
 
Did lean dreams last night and holy wow, what a wierd experience... Abyss is the winner but lean dreams had some odd effects...

Well thats the teaser, I'll write more in a bit.
 
Ok well here is what Lean Dreams did for/to me:

1.5 to 2 hours after I took it I was so tired it hurt. I was so tired I almost couldn't fall asleep if that makes sense, hell I was so tired I fell asleep laying with my gf, ha. But like I said it almost hurt and falling asleep was sort of hard. Once I fell asleep I slept 4 hours until 4am. When I woke up I wanted to stay up. I was tired but felt like falling asleep wasn't an option and it took a while to get back to sleep. From this point on the night went soooo slooow. I was in and out of sleep for much of the night and had vivid dreams after waking up at 4am. I also woke up at 6am with the same experience then pretty much woke up 3-4 more times with vivid dreams and poor sleep BUT felt very very well rested. When I finally got out of bed I was very well rested and energized to start the day but despite this positive effect the night itself just was not enjoyable AT ALL.

Abyss gives a far better experience while sleeping but lean dreams might be better for a night where you can only sleep 5-6 hours.
 
justreading said:
Ok well here is what Lean Dreams did for/to me:

1.5 to 2 hours after I took it I was so tired it hurt. I was so tired I almost couldn't fall asleep if that makes sense, hell I was so tired I fell asleep laying with my gf, ha. But like I said it almost hurt and falling asleep was sort of hard. Once I fell asleep I slept 4 hours until 4am. When I woke up I wanted to stay up. I was tired but felt like falling asleep wasn't an option and it took a while to get back to sleep. From this point on the night went soooo slooow. I was in and out of sleep for much of the night and had vivid dreams after waking up at 4am. I also woke up at 6am with the same experience then pretty much woke up 3-4 more times with vivid dreams and poor sleep BUT felt very very well rested. When I finally got out of bed I was very well rested and energized to start the day but despite this positive effect the night itself just was not enjoyable AT ALL.

Abyss gives a far better experience while sleeping but lean dreams might be better for a night where you can only sleep 5-6 hours.
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Interesting...Thanks for the comparison JR!

Workin
 
justreading said:
Ok well here is what Lean Dreams did for/to me:

1.5 to 2 hours after I took it I was so tired it hurt. I was so tired I almost couldn't fall asleep if that makes sense, hell I was so tired I fell asleep laying with my gf, ha. But like I said it almost hurt and falling asleep was sort of hard. Once I fell asleep I slept 4 hours until 4am. When I woke up I wanted to stay up. I was tired but felt like falling asleep wasn't an option and it took a while to get back to sleep. From this point on the night went soooo slooow. I was in and out of sleep for much of the night and had vivid dreams after waking up at 4am. I also woke up at 6am with the same experience then pretty much woke up 3-4 more times with vivid dreams and poor sleep BUT felt very very well rested. When I finally got out of bed I was very well rested and energized to start the day but despite this positive effect the night itself just was not enjoyable AT ALL.

Abyss gives a far better experience while sleeping but lean dreams might be better for a night where you can only sleep 5-6 hours.
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Very nice comparison my friend.
 
Since the last couple night haven't been very important I have taken lean dreams instead of abyss to rest my phen tolerance.

Last night was very much like the night before it. I got SO tired about an hour and a half after taking lean dreams but then had a hard time falling asleep and staying asleep. It was actually hell, the littlest thing woke me up and when I did wake up my body felt liek it wanted to stay up...

Lean dreams has some interesting properties but abyss is much better for staying asleep. If I had the money I would love to do a half dose of each together because lean dreams makes you very sleepy very quickly but abyss keeps you asleep much better and gives you a better night rest.
 
Awful Knawful said:
Is it true that if you use melatonin frequently your body will stop producing it naturally?
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No idea on that but I highly doubt it, it is so vital to functioning much like t3, that even with long term use it would be hard to believe it could cause long term shut down (like t3 also does not.)

Again I have no science behind this just a guess.
 
Only slept 3-4 hrs a night until I was 29 yrs old then I started having acupuncture. 4 treatments started to sleep 6 hrs a night. 8 treatments 7 hrs. 33 yrs old, now i sleep 8 hrs EZ. The needles are very small about the size of a human hair(36-40 gauge) not like an injection or getting blood(19 gauge) drawn at all.
 
Last night was a NO SLEEP AID night.

To be honest last night with no sleep aids was a better experience than Lean Dreams. Lean Dreams only had 2 potonetial benefits: I got VERY sleepy and felt like I could have gotten up in the middle of the night (which ended up sucking.)

On my night taking nothing I noticed that some of my sleep problems are less than they have been in recent memory but some still pursist. I was able to go to sleep at 1:30am but that is only because I got up at 7am the day before and got HORRIBLE sleep the night before as well. So while I got a good night sleep, getting to bed at 1:30am without any sleep aid isn't impressive because I was much more tired than normal. So the problem od my internal clock being off still is there when I do not take something. The positive feedback though is that I got a good night sleep. This could be due to some cumulative effect from abyss (could it?) or because my androgen levels are lower (cycling down) or because I am not eating carbs (this has been a major improvement to my quality of life)


My new job keeps getting pushed back so I think for real I will be starting Tues or Weds. Abyss is going to REALLY need to prove its worth and get my night owl ass to bed at 11pm. I have been doing everything I can to take abyss on nights where I really need to sleep and keep any tolerance issues at bay. I may be being over cautious on the tolerance thing but I have natural high adaptation to things like phenibut or alcohol or nearly any medicine for that matter.
 
Night 11

Well last night was great. I slept 7 hours through without even waking up to go the bathroom which never never never happens. I really wonder how long I would have slept if I didnt set an alarm which might have been bad because I woke up about to explode ha.

Last night I took 1 Lean Dreams with 4 ABYSS. I only have 1 Lean Dreams left guys so don't worry I won't to too far off subject for much longer.

The experience of Abyss was MUCH better than Lean dreams alone and from my research, my experience with Lean Dreams is much like what others have experienced.

If I had to rank all the the sleep substances I have used over the last few weeks.

1. Abyss
2. Melatonin
3. Nothing
4. Lean Dreams
 
I FORGOT ONE VERY IMPORTANT ADDITION:

When I would take RPM before this I could not get to sleep until 5am. Last night I got to bed at 12 easy and then slept 7 hours through.
 
UPDATES! UPDATES!

Alright so lets recap my feelings about abyss over the last 3-4 nights I have taken it:

Since starting ABYSS my sleep overall had been better which made me think, although brielfely, that it was not making a big difference but then I noticed a few things.

1. After ABYSS I felt much better the next day even after the same amount of sleep.

2. on abyss nights I had less dreams which is a great positive because of me dreams disturb my sleeping.

3. I WAS ABLE TO SLEEP AFTER RPM!!! - This is huuuuuge for me.

RPM is my life saver but was my life ender as well before ABYSS. Rpm is something I NEED to start the day and to enjoy working out. It has allowed me to do 15 reps with 100 pound dumbells on incline while coming OFF a looooooong cycle. Great right? nope, I could never sleep after it until abyss.

Overall so far I would say the effects have been great. At times the benefits are vague and hard to notice until you stop or take a step back.
 
justreading said:
UPDATES! UPDATES!

Alright so lets recap my feelings about abyss over the last 3-4 nights I have taken it:

Since starting ABYSS my sleep overall had been better which made me think, although brielfely, that it was not making a big difference but then I noticed a few things.

1. After ABYSS I felt much better the next day even after the same amount of sleep.

2. on abyss nights I had less dreams which is a great positive because of me dreams disturb my sleeping.

3. I WAS ABLE TO SLEEP AFTER RPM!!! - This is huuuuuge for me.

RPM is my life saver but was my life ender as well before ABYSS. Rpm is something I NEED to start the day and to enjoy working out. It has allowed me to do 15 reps with 100 pound dumbells on incline while coming OFF a looooooong cycle. Great right? nope, I could never sleep after it until abyss.

Overall so far I would say the effects have been great. At times the benefits are vague and hard to notice until you stop or take a step back.
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:thumbsup:

Abyss should really come in handy for anybody who likes to "overstimulate" for those evening workouts. Thanks for sharing this bit of info JR.
 
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