Caffeine tolerance and fat burning

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The longer we take caffeine, the more we need to take - to get a stim effect. How much does the fat burning effect diminish as the stim feeling gets less and less noticeable with the same amount of caffeine? Is it the less we (mentally) feel it, the less it's working?
 

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The fat burning effect generally does not diminish, but since most of caffeine's effects are from appetite suppression, that does diminish
 

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The fat burning effect generally does not diminish, but since most of caffeine's effects are from appetite suppression, that does diminish
Really because ever since I had my first cup of coffee it always made me hungry? Not sure why
 
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The fat burning effect generally does not diminish, but since most of caffeine's effects are from appetite suppression, that does diminish
AMPk is something I've been looking more into recently, so pardon an ignorant question..

How strong does caffeine activate AMPk? How dose dependent is it?
 
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Caffeine elevates/releases blood sugar. In some, it will be enough to force the release of insulin, then the sugar rollar coaster ride ensures. End result, appetite increase. Also "one" of the reasons people crash a few hours after some short-acting stims; not just b/c the stim runs out but because of the sugar crash (acute hypoglycemia).

Coffee can increase insulin sensitivity but that doesnt mean it cannot do the aforementioned "acutely" as well.

Really because ever since I had my first cup of coffee it always made me hungry? Not sure why
 

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Caffeine elevates/releases blood sugar. In some, it will be enough to force the release of insulin, then the sugar rollar coaster ride ensures. End result, appetite increase. Also "one" of the reasons people crash a few hours after some short-acting stims; not just b/c the stim runs out but because of the sugar crash (acute hypoglycemia).

Coffee can increase insulin sensitivity but that doesnt mean it cannot do the aforementioned "acutely" as well.
Pretty cool information thank you
 

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Couldn't it be from increased metabolism?
No, too mild

AMPk is something I've been looking more into recently, so pardon an ignorant question..

How strong does caffeine activate AMPk? How dose dependent is it?
Caffeine isn't a very strong inducer of AMPK, clinically. But its effect is systemic and generally positive, which is nice

Caffeine elevates/releases blood sugar. In some, it will be enough to force the release of insulin, then the sugar rollar coaster ride ensures. End result, appetite increase. Also "one" of the reasons people crash a few hours after some short-acting stims; not just b/c the stim runs out but because of the sugar crash (acute hypoglycemia).

Coffee can increase insulin sensitivity but that doesnt mean it cannot do the aforementioned "acutely" as well.
Caffeine has consistently demonstrated to barely affect blood glucose and to have virtually no effect on insulin. The exception being megadoses (400mg - 800mg).
 

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