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Cabergoline help?

Nova1723

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Ok I have had gyno here and there depending on what prohormone I'm using or have used, I first had signs of gyno back in 2002 while taking the originial M1T and after finishing over time it subsided and I've had it come back a little w/using superdrol in the past and just recently I finished CEL's M14ADD and it came back BIG time so I was looking into some prolactin antagonists and I have used Nolva, Letro, and Anastrazole to help out but I recently came across Cabergoline and also had it recommended so I purchased some which is outlined at the bottom.

My quesition is this comes in a 30ML at 15MG's does that mean 15MG's per 1ML? There is no markings on he dropper and typically on droppers one full dropper is 1ML so how do I take the cabergoline? I have seen a number of different ways, like 1MG eod for first couple weeks then .5MG every 3 days for another couple weeks etc... etc... can someone clear this up for me? Thanks!

CABERGOLINE
(AQUEOUS SOLUTION)
15MG - 30ML VIAL

The chemical name for cabergoline is 1-[(6-allylergolin-8?-yl)-carbonyl]-1-[3-(dimethylamino)propyl]-3-ethylurea. Its empirical formula is C26H37N5O2, and its molecular weight is 451.62. The structural formula is as follows:

Cabergoline is a white powder soluble in ethyl alcohol, chloroform, and N, N-dimethylformamide (DMF); slightly soluble in 0.1N hydrochloric acid; very slightly soluble in n-hexane; and insoluble in water.
 
yes 1cc or 1 ml is 15mgs. what makes you think its going to do anything for gyno you've had for years though?
 
yes 1cc or 1 ml is 15mgs. what makes you think its going to do anything for gyno you've had for years though?

I haven't had it for years it comes and goes basically certain ph's cause it to "flair up" or get large again. When I used the original M1T it started then I got off it went away cuz I used letro, arimidex, and nolva at different times and I haven't had it come back until recently after using CEL's M14ADD so everything I've been reading about gyno related issues everyone seems to recommend Cabergoline for gyno that is currently in the system.
 
15mg - 30ml = .5mg/ml

Cabergoline Description

Cabergoline tablets contain Cabergoline, a dopamine receptor agonist. The chemical name for Cabergoline is 1-[(6-allylergolin-8β-yl)-carbonyl]-1-[3-(dimethylamino) propyl]-3-ethylurea. Its empirical formula is C26H37N5O2, and its molecular weight is 451.62. The structural formula is as follows:

Cabergoline is a white powder soluble in ethyl alcohol, chloroform, and N, N-dimethylformamide (DMF); slightly soluble in 0.1N hydrochloric acid; very slightly soluble in n-hexane; and insoluble in water.

Cabergoline tablets, for oral administration, contain 0.5 mg of Cabergoline. Inactive ingredients consist of leucine, USP, and lactose, NF.
Cabergoline - Clinical Pharmacology
Mechanism of Action

The secretion of prolactin by the anterior pituitary is mainly under hypothalamic inhibitory control, likely exerted through release of dopamine by tuberoinfundibular neurons. Cabergoline is a long-acting dopamine receptor agonist with a high affinity for D2 receptors. Results of in vitro studies demonstrate that Cabergoline exerts a direct inhibitory effect on the secretion of prolactin by rat pituitary lactotrophs. Cabergoline decreased serum prolactin levels in reserpinized rats. Receptor-binding studies indicate that Cabergoline has low affinity for dopamine D1, α1- and α2-adrenergic, and 5-HT1- and 5-HT2-serotonin receptors.
Clinical Studies

The prolactin-lowering efficacy of Cabergoline was demonstrated in hyperprolactinemic women in two randomized, double-blind, comparative studies, one with placebo and the other with bromocriptine. In the placebo-controlled study (placebo n=20; Cabergoline n=168), Cabergoline produced a dose-related decrease in serum prolactin levels with prolactin normalized after 4 weeks of treatment in 29%, 76%, 74% and 95% of the patients receiving 0.125, 0.5, 0.75, and 1.0 mg twice weekly respectively.

In the 8-week, double-blind period of the comparative trial with bromocriptine (Cabergoline n=223; bromocriptine n=236 in the intent-to-treat analysis), prolactin was normalized in 77% of the patients treated with Cabergoline at 0.5 mg twice weekly compared with 59% of those treated with bromocriptine at 2.5 mg twice daily. Restoration of menses occurred in 77% of the women treated with Cabergoline, compared with 70% of those treated with bromocriptine. Among patients with galactorrhea, this symptom disappeared in 73% of those treated with Cabergoline compared with 56% of those treated with bromocriptine.
Pharmacokinetics
Absorption

Following single oral doses of 0.5 mg to 1.5 mg given to 12 healthy adult volunteers, mean peak plasma levels of 30 to 70 picograms (pg)/mL of Cabergoline were observed within 2 to 3 hours. Over the 0.5-to-7 mg dose range, Cabergoline plasma levels appeared to be dose-proportional in 12 healthy adult volunteers and nine adult parkinsonian patients. A repeat-dose study in 12 healthy volunteers suggests that steady-state levels following a once-weekly dosing schedule are expected to be twofold to threefold higher than after a single dose. The absolute bioavailability of Cabergoline is unknown. A significant fraction of the administered dose undergoes a first-pass effect. The elimination half-life of Cabergoline estimated from urinary data of 12 healthy subjects ranged between 63 to 69 hours. The prolonged prolactin-lowering effect of Cabergoline may be related to its slow elimination and long half-life.
Distribution

In animals, based on total radioactivity, Cabergoline (and/or its metabolites) has shown extensive tissue distribution. Radioactivity in the pituitary exceeded that in plasma by >100-fold and was eliminated with a half-life of approximately 60 hours. This finding is consistent with the long-lasting prolactin-lowering effect of the drug. Whole body autoradiography studies in pregnant rats showed no fetal uptake but high levels in the uterine wall. Significant radioactivity (parent plus metabolites) detected in the milk of lactating rats suggests a potential for exposure to nursing infants. The drug is extensively distributed throughout the body. Cabergoline is moderately bound (40% to 42%) to human plasma proteins in a concentration-independent manner. Concomitant dosing of highly protein-bound drugs is unlikely to affect its disposition.
Metabolism

In both animals and humans, Cabergoline is extensively metabolized, predominately via hydrolysis of the acylurea bond or the urea moiety. Cytochrome P-450 mediated metabolism appears to be minimal. Cabergoline does not cause enzyme induction and/or inhibition in the rat. Hydrolysis of the acylurea or urea moiety abolishes the prolactin-lowering effect of Cabergoline, and major metabolites identified thus far do not contribute to the therapeutic effect.
Excretion

After oral dosing of radioactive Cabergoline to five healthy volunteers, approximately 22% and 60% of the dose was excreted within 20 days in the urine and feces, respectively. Less than 4% of the dose was excreted unchanged in the urine. Nonrenal and renal clearances for Cabergoline are about 3.2 L/min and 0.08 L/min, respectively. Urinary excretion in hyperprolactinemic patients was similar.
Special Populations
Renal Insufficiency

The pharmacokinetics of Cabergoline were not altered in 12 patients with moderate-to-severe renal insufficiency as assessed by creatinine clearance.
Hepatic Insufficiency

In 12 patients with mild-to-moderate hepatic dysfunction (Child-Pugh score ≤10), no effect on mean Cabergoline Cmax or area under the plasma concentration curve (AUC) was observed. However, patients with severe insufficiency (Child-Pugh score >10) show a substantial increase in the mean Cabergoline Cmax and AUC, and thus necessitate caution.
Elderly

Effect of age on the pharmacokinetics of Cabergoline has not been studied.
Food-Drug Interaction

In 12 healthy adult volunteers, food did not alter Cabergoline kinetics.
Pharmacodynamics

Dose response with inhibition of plasma prolactin, onset of maximal effect, and duration of effect has been documented following single Cabergoline doses to healthy volunteers (0.05 to 1.5 mg) and hyperprolactinemic patients (0.3 to 1 mg). In volunteers, prolactin inhibition was evident at doses >0.2 mg, while doses ≥0.5 mg caused maximal suppression in most subjects. Higher doses produce prolactin suppression in a greater proportion of subjects and with an earlier onset and longer duration of action. In 12 healthy volunteers, 0.5, 1, and 1.5 mg doses resulted in complete prolactin inhibition, with a maximum effect within 3 hours in 92% to 100% of subjects after the 1 and 1.5 mg doses compared with 50% of subjects after the 0.5 mg dose.

In hyperprolactinemic patients (N=51), the maximal prolactin decrease after a 0.6 mg single dose of Cabergoline was comparable to 2.5 mg bromocriptine; however, the duration of effect was markedly longer (14 days vs. 24 hours). The time to maximal effect was shorter for bromocriptine than Cabergoline (6 hours vs. 48 hours).

In 72 healthy volunteers, single or multiple doses (up to 2 mg) of Cabergoline resulted in selective inhibition of prolactin with no apparent effect on other anterior pituitary hormones (GH, FSH, LH, ACTH, and TSH) or cortisol.
Indications and Usage for Cabergoline

Cabergoline tablets are indicated for the treatment of hyperprolactinemic disorders, either idiopathic or due to pituitary adenomas.
 
I've been debating on whether or not to try a dopamine agonist myself because I've got some fairly nasty tissue building up on the right side and I'm pretty sure it's due to running a progestin in every cycle for the past 4. There's conflicting opinions on whether or not it actually works though...and by the description of your vial it sounds like you may have ordered from some guys who have been putting out a lot of fake stuff lately...I will never use them again..but that's a different story...furthermore, the fact that they have it marked as 15 mg's per mL makes it seem even fishier...hope it works for you
 
my source says the same thing: "15mg - 30mL" vial this refers to the contents of the entire vial. it should be dosed for 0.5mg/mL. keep in mind you are using very small doses with this and it would make no sense dose it for 15mg for each mL... you would be using 1/30mL per dose... very difficult to measure. it should be 0.5mg/mL tho
 
my source says the same thing: "15mg - 30mL" vial this refers to the contents of the entire vial. it should be dosed for 0.5mg/mL. keep in mind you are using very small doses with this and it would make no sense dose it for 15mg for each mL... you would be using 1/30mL per dose... very difficult to measure. it should be 0.5mg/mL tho

So one full dropper would be equal to .5mgs? I emailed the company and all they sent back was "Hi, that item is 500mcg per ML." So I would need to take one full dropper once ever 3-4 days.
 
So one full dropper would be equal to .5mgs? I emailed the company and all they sent back was "Hi, that item is 500mcg per ML." So I would need to take one full dropper once ever 3-4 days.

wow, that's kind of weird how they do that. but yes, 1ml/cc is .5 mgs.
 
So one full dropper would be equal to .5mgs? I emailed the company and all they sent back was "Hi, that item is 500mcg per ML." So I would need to take one full dropper once ever 3-4 days.

you could go to cvs or a pharmacy and ask them for a small oral syringe. they should be free. if not tell them ur lil brother got some antibiotics and they didnt give u one with it or the dog ate it or something then u can measure it out in more precise increments
 
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