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Wanted to say thanks to cheftepesh1 and everyone Iconic Formulations. I have been reading around and have been trying to really get my TRT dialed in and believe adding the Neuro DHEA and Neuro P5 (Pregnenolone). The products shipped very fast and wrapped up very securley.
Here's a little about myself
Currently trying to manage my life with my family and this injury I have. It's some sort of hernia I imagine but can't tell. I'm doing at home body weight workouts and get my cardio from ruck sack marches. I am currently taking a little less than 200mg of test along with 1500iu of hcg weekly, along with garlic, fish oil, zinc. I'm hoping this combo of products will work with my TRT and help with some of the benefits listed below.
I'll post my routine and report back anything else.
Here is some information I found about the products
Pregnenolone –
Pregnenolone is a hormone that many Doctors and men are not familiar with or understand it’s role in the CHOL pathways but it’s critically important to our health as it is a “precursor hormone” to all other hormones. Restoring Pregnenolone to optimal levels is important but seems to get the least attention by Doctors. Remember, the testes are the single largest producer of the hormone Pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is important for proper mental functioning and is the precursor to all of the steroid hormones found in the three CHOL pathways such as DHEA, testosterone, DHT, estrogen, cortisol…
So what are the benefits of Pregnenolone?
In our bodies Pregnenelone is manufactured by cholesterol (CHOL). The hormone performs many functions in a man’s body, including:
Promotes healthy brain function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer’s disease. Many men state feeling good when they start supplementing Human chorionic gonadotropin.
It can also prevent age related diseases and support the Central Nervous System (CNS).
Boosts the immune system and increases energy produciton.
Protects against coronary disease and improves heart health and can lower cholesterol levels.
Enhances mood and relieves depression. Many men state their mood betters when they start supplementation.
Relieves arthritis pain!
Fights the effects of fatigue and stress.
The optimal serum levels for Pregnenelone is 180 ng/dl for men. Pregnenolone can be purchased over the counter in a pill (micronized slow release is the best for pills) or sublingual form in addition to transdermal creams. A typical dose is 50 to 200 mg daily best taken in the morning on an empty stomach (cream applied in the morning as well). Pregnenolone is considered safe and because is converts to DHEA which leads to other hormones it’s best to get your Pregnenolone levels tested before supplementing.
DHEA Supplementation
Dehydroepiandrosterone: DHEA
As presented by Dr. Neal Rouzier, M.D.
Here’s a great reason to add DHEA to your protocol.
DHEA is a hormone secreted primarily by the adrenal glands. It results in a shift of a catabolic state to an anabolic or protein building state.
It reduces cardiovascular risks by increasing lipolyses (decrease visceral fat).
It stimulates the immune system, restores sexual vitality, improves moods, decreases cholesterol and body fat.
It improves memory, increases energy, and has anti-cancer properties by enhancing the immune system.
It is an endocrine precursor to other hormones, prevents immuno-senescence, loss of sleep, osteoporosis, atherosclerosis.
DHEA reduces insulin requirement
Adrenal hormone anabolic vs. catabolic metabolism
Restores immunity
Prevents osteoporosis, increases bone density
Prevents cancer in lab animals
Prevents diabetes & heart disease
Decreases visceral fat
Improves mood & well-being
Improves energy & memory
Slows aging process in lab animals
Prevents lipid peroxidation = antioxidant
Endocrine precursor to T.P.E.
7-keto DHEA is not a precursor to other HRT = avoid
Neurotransmitter (recently discovered)
Presently pending FDA approval for Lupus (Prasterone)
Clinically substantiated uses of DHEA include replacement for:
Low DHEA levels
Chronic disease
Adrenal exhaustion or corticosteroid therapy
SLE
Improving bone density
Improving depression & mood disorders
Enhancing immune response by activating T-cells
Improving well-being
Decreasing cardiovascular risk
Improving erectile dysfunction
Anyone over 40
DHEA has never been shown to reverse the aging process
Nevertheless DHEA is important for preventive medicine
DHEA inhibits synthesis of thromboxane A2, reduces plasminogen activator inhibitor, and tissue plasminogen activator
– all decreasing platelet aggregation and ischemia.
Administration:
Men200lb: 75-100mg AM
Women 50yo: 25mg AM
IMPORTANT:
DHEA Serum Levels
MEN
Range 100-600
Optimal 500-600
WOMEN
Range 50-300
Optimal 200-250
Higher levels in women predispose them to side effects – therefore stay low
Monitor monthly until optimal
Assure correct dose and compliance
Measure DHEA-S and not DHEA
Side effects: acne, hirsutism
Tx: Lower dose or take QOD Spironolactone 100 mg/day
Contraindicated in sex hormone responsive tumors – breast, ovarian, uterine, prostate
Conversion to T.P.E.?
DHEA raises testosterone levels in women slightly, yet not in men
DHEA raises estradiol slightly in men
Indications:
Over age 40 for health protection
Preventive medicine and well-being
Symptoms of aging, mood & depression
‘Cause the medical literature suggests it if we want to live longer, happier, healthier
DHEA – S04 MEN Blood levels
Optimal : 500-600 ug/ml
Side effects rare in men
WOMEN
Optimal : 200-250 ug/ml
Dose based on side effects
Side effects very common in women
DHEA Dose MEN
Capsule – SR micronized
50 mg Q am
>200 lbs – 75 – 100 mg Q am
WOMEN Capsule – SR micronized
10 mg Q am if over 40
15 mg Q am if over 50
25 mg Q am if over 60
If under age 40, do not prescribe due to sensitivity causing side effects.
Day 1:
I dosed .5ml for both products right after my shower. I got a box of latex gloves from my hunting stuff and used those for better absorption to the trap/clavicle/chest region. I wanted about 15 minutes and applied some lotion to the area to help absorb the products.
Here's a little about myself
Currently trying to manage my life with my family and this injury I have. It's some sort of hernia I imagine but can't tell. I'm doing at home body weight workouts and get my cardio from ruck sack marches. I am currently taking a little less than 200mg of test along with 1500iu of hcg weekly, along with garlic, fish oil, zinc. I'm hoping this combo of products will work with my TRT and help with some of the benefits listed below.
I'll post my routine and report back anything else.
Here is some information I found about the products
Pregnenolone –
Pregnenolone is a hormone that many Doctors and men are not familiar with or understand it’s role in the CHOL pathways but it’s critically important to our health as it is a “precursor hormone” to all other hormones. Restoring Pregnenolone to optimal levels is important but seems to get the least attention by Doctors. Remember, the testes are the single largest producer of the hormone Pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is important for proper mental functioning and is the precursor to all of the steroid hormones found in the three CHOL pathways such as DHEA, testosterone, DHT, estrogen, cortisol…
So what are the benefits of Pregnenolone?
In our bodies Pregnenelone is manufactured by cholesterol (CHOL). The hormone performs many functions in a man’s body, including:
Promotes healthy brain function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer’s disease. Many men state feeling good when they start supplementing Human chorionic gonadotropin.
It can also prevent age related diseases and support the Central Nervous System (CNS).
Boosts the immune system and increases energy produciton.
Protects against coronary disease and improves heart health and can lower cholesterol levels.
Enhances mood and relieves depression. Many men state their mood betters when they start supplementation.
Relieves arthritis pain!
Fights the effects of fatigue and stress.
The optimal serum levels for Pregnenelone is 180 ng/dl for men. Pregnenolone can be purchased over the counter in a pill (micronized slow release is the best for pills) or sublingual form in addition to transdermal creams. A typical dose is 50 to 200 mg daily best taken in the morning on an empty stomach (cream applied in the morning as well). Pregnenolone is considered safe and because is converts to DHEA which leads to other hormones it’s best to get your Pregnenolone levels tested before supplementing.
DHEA Supplementation
Dehydroepiandrosterone: DHEA
As presented by Dr. Neal Rouzier, M.D.
Here’s a great reason to add DHEA to your protocol.
DHEA is a hormone secreted primarily by the adrenal glands. It results in a shift of a catabolic state to an anabolic or protein building state.
It reduces cardiovascular risks by increasing lipolyses (decrease visceral fat).
It stimulates the immune system, restores sexual vitality, improves moods, decreases cholesterol and body fat.
It improves memory, increases energy, and has anti-cancer properties by enhancing the immune system.
It is an endocrine precursor to other hormones, prevents immuno-senescence, loss of sleep, osteoporosis, atherosclerosis.
DHEA reduces insulin requirement
Adrenal hormone anabolic vs. catabolic metabolism
Restores immunity
Prevents osteoporosis, increases bone density
Prevents cancer in lab animals
Prevents diabetes & heart disease
Decreases visceral fat
Improves mood & well-being
Improves energy & memory
Slows aging process in lab animals
Prevents lipid peroxidation = antioxidant
Endocrine precursor to T.P.E.
7-keto DHEA is not a precursor to other HRT = avoid
Neurotransmitter (recently discovered)
Presently pending FDA approval for Lupus (Prasterone)
Clinically substantiated uses of DHEA include replacement for:
Low DHEA levels
Chronic disease
Adrenal exhaustion or corticosteroid therapy
SLE
Improving bone density
Improving depression & mood disorders
Enhancing immune response by activating T-cells
Improving well-being
Decreasing cardiovascular risk
Improving erectile dysfunction
Anyone over 40
DHEA has never been shown to reverse the aging process
Nevertheless DHEA is important for preventive medicine
DHEA inhibits synthesis of thromboxane A2, reduces plasminogen activator inhibitor, and tissue plasminogen activator
– all decreasing platelet aggregation and ischemia.
Administration:
Men200lb: 75-100mg AM
Women 50yo: 25mg AM
IMPORTANT:
DHEA Serum Levels
MEN
Range 100-600
Optimal 500-600
WOMEN
Range 50-300
Optimal 200-250
Higher levels in women predispose them to side effects – therefore stay low
Monitor monthly until optimal
Assure correct dose and compliance
Measure DHEA-S and not DHEA
Side effects: acne, hirsutism
Tx: Lower dose or take QOD Spironolactone 100 mg/day
Contraindicated in sex hormone responsive tumors – breast, ovarian, uterine, prostate
Conversion to T.P.E.?
DHEA raises testosterone levels in women slightly, yet not in men
DHEA raises estradiol slightly in men
Indications:
Over age 40 for health protection
Preventive medicine and well-being
Symptoms of aging, mood & depression
‘Cause the medical literature suggests it if we want to live longer, happier, healthier
DHEA – S04 MEN Blood levels
Optimal : 500-600 ug/ml
Side effects rare in men
WOMEN
Optimal : 200-250 ug/ml
Dose based on side effects
Side effects very common in women
DHEA Dose MEN
Capsule – SR micronized
50 mg Q am
>200 lbs – 75 – 100 mg Q am
WOMEN Capsule – SR micronized
10 mg Q am if over 40
15 mg Q am if over 50
25 mg Q am if over 60
If under age 40, do not prescribe due to sensitivity causing side effects.
Day 1:
I dosed .5ml for both products right after my shower. I got a box of latex gloves from my hunting stuff and used those for better absorption to the trap/clavicle/chest region. I wanted about 15 minutes and applied some lotion to the area to help absorb the products.
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