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Hello, This is my first post but i have been reading a few of threads.

I have just started working out this year. I am 18 and started around in august. The first few months I really deviated but the last few months i have been working hard. I started at a weight of 135 at 5' 10 and now i am around 150. The summer is coming and I really want to get serious about bulking up. It has always been really hard for me to gain weight.

I, right now, take Serious Mass by ON and kre-aklyene. Serious Mass is the cheapest and most loaded protein I could find. If there are better ones, could you recommend them? I also heard kre-aklyene was alot better than normal mono creatine? I want to start stacking so the next three months i can gain the most mass/muscle as possible. I was thinking about taking NO-Explode,Glutamine, and Animal Stak 2 or M. I was reading a few of threads of about the animal stak and it seems to have bad reviews over all. I was wondering what another suitable replacement or other supplements i should take that would help maximize in bulking.

Also a few small questions about working out. I heard that pyramid scheme is the best in gaining size. So does that mean i should have 4 sets with increase weight like and the last set i do only 6 reps? Should i workout to failure when stacking in trying to bulk up fastest? Also is there a recommend rest time i should follow? No longer than 2 minutes or something like that. Also, how important is cardio to bulking up?

Last I was looking to try a few new workouts. Would these work outs be suitable for my goal. I was thinking about switching them every month to maximize "muscle confusion" or something like that. These are from bodybuilding.com. I couldnt link the site since i dont have enough post. Are there better plans i should look at?

First one

Workout #1

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Behind-the-neck BB Press - 15; 10,8, 8, 6 Reps
Lat Raises - 8 Reps
Bent-over-DB-lats - 8 Reps
DB Shrugs - 10 Reps
BB Curls - 15; 10, 8, 6, 4 Reps
Incline DB Curls - 8 Reps
Concentration Curls - 8 Reps
Lying Triceps Extensions - 15, 10, 8, 6 Reps
Tricep Cable Pressdown - 8 Reps
One Arm Tricep Extensions - 10 Reps

Workout #2

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Flat Bench - 15; 10, 8, 6, 4 Reps
Incline Barbell Bench Or Dumbbell - 15; 10, 8, 6, 4 Reps
DB Flys - 10, 8, 6 Reps
Parallel Bar Dips - 15, 10, 8 Reps
Pullover - 15 Reps
Chins - 10 min Reps
T-Bar - 15, 12, 8, 6 Reps
Bent-Over-BB Rows - 8-12 Reps
Crunches - 25, 50 Reps
Machine Crunch - 25 Reps

Workout #3

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Squats - 20, 10, 8, 6, 4 Reps
Front Squats - 10, 8, 8, 6 Reps
Hack Squats - 10 Reps
Leg Curls - 20, 10, 8, 6 Reps
Standing Leg Curls - 10 Reps
Straight Leg Deadlifts - 10 Reps
Standing Calf Raises - 15, 10, 8, 8 Reps

Second one

Workout #1

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
BB Squats - 6-8 Reps
Leg Press - 6-8 Reps
Leg Extensions (Quad Raises) - 6-8 Reps
Lying Leg Curl - 6-8 Reps
Straight Legged Deadlift - 6-8 Reps
Stability Ball Ab Crunch - 15 Reps

Workout #2

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
DB Bench Press - 6-8 Reps
Incline BB Bench Press - 6-8 Reps
DB Flies - 6-8 Reps
Decline BB Bench Press - 6-8 Reps
DB Pullovers - 6-8 Reps
Stability Ball Leg Raises - 15 Reps

Workout #3

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Wide Grip Cable Row - 6-8 Reps
Bent Legged Deadlift - 6-8 Reps
Lat Pulldown - 6-8 Reps
Underhand Bent Over Row - 6-8 Reps
T-Bar Row - 6-8 Reps
Oblique (Side) Crunches - 15 Reps

Workout #4

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Seated Incline DB Curls - 6-8 Reps
Preacher Curls - 6-8 Reps
Overhead Pulley Curls - 6-8 Reps
Tricep Rope Pressdown - 6-8 Reps
One Arm Kickbacks - 6-8 Reps
Skull Crushers - 6-8 Reps

Workout #5

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
DB Shoulder Press - 6-8 Reps
Lateral Raises - 6-8 Reps
Behind The Back BB Shoulder Shrugs - 6-8 Reps
Standing Calf Raises - 6-8 Reps
Donkey Raises - 6-8 Reps
Seated Finger Curls (arms Flat On Bench) - 6-8 Reps
Seated Overhand Forearm Curls (arms Flat On Knees) - 6-8 Reps

Third one

Workout #1

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Bench Press - 8-10 Reps
Incline Press - 8-10 Reps
Incline Or Flat Fly - 8-10 Reps
Dips Or Decline Press - 8-12 Reps
Cablecrossover - 12 Reps
Incline Sit-ups - max Reps
Leg Raises - 15-20 Reps
Roman Chair Sit-ups - max Reps

Workout #2

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Pull-ups/pulldown - 8-10 Reps
T-bar Row - 10 Reps
Front-pulldown - 8-10 Reps
Bent Rows - 8 Reps
Cable Row - 8-10 Reps
Deadlift - 10-12 Reps
Hyperextention - 15 Reps
Crunches - 50 Reps
Incline Sit-ups - 25 Reps
Twists - 100 per side Reps

Workout #3

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Barbell Curl - 6-10 Reps
Preacher Curl - 10 Reps
Dumbell Curl - 8-10 Reps
Chin-ups - max Reps
Close-grip Press - 10 Reps
Dips - max Reps
Pushdowns - 10 Reps
Bench Dips - max Reps
Reverse Pushdowns/kickbacks - 10 Reps
Cable Crunch - 25 Reps
Twists - 100 per side Reps

Workout #4

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Barbell Press - 10 Reps
Lateral Raise - 10-12 Reps
Bent-raises - Reps
Upright Row - 10 Reps
One Arm Side Cable Raise - 15 per side Reps
Squats - 10 Reps
Leg-extention - 10-12 Reps
Leg Press - 10 Reps
Hack-squats - 10 Reps
Leg-curls - 10-12 Reps

Workout #5

EXERCISE
Set #1
Set #2
Set #3
Set #4
Set #5
Bench Press - 10 Reps
Dips - 10-12 Reps
Front Pulldown - 10 Reps
Cable Row - 10 Reps
Dumbell Press - Reps
Lateral Raise - 8-10 Reps
Barbell Curl - 10 Reps
Pushdowns - 10 Reps
Squats - 10 Reps
Leg-extention - 10-12 Reps
Incline Sit-up - 50 Reps
Leg Raises - 15 Reps

All these are m-f. rest on weekends. from bodybuilding.com

Sorry about the long post! Any advice would be awesome
 
if you want to bulk.... EAT.... EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT... everytime you take a crap go eat more food then you just crapped out. everytime you piss go drink more than you pissed out. everytime you get jiggy with your girl think about how many calories you just burned and go eat more than you just used. use heavy a$$ weights and stick to low reps. sleep at least 8 hours. i wouldnt recommend training each body part more than once a week. make your own weight gain shakes they are 10x better than anything you buy and 20x cheaper. keep cardio to a minimum. consume lots of high quality protein and dont rely on shakes. sounds gay but if you believe your going to get big then i think you'll see better results. the mind is a powerful thing so best of luck looks like your on the right track just remember diet is Numero UNO
 
so i shouldnt do the pyramid and just focus on heavy weights low reps? what about other supplements?
 
whoever says they cant gain is talking bullsh**t!!! take his advice EAT, EAT & EAT, Carbs & Protein plenty of each 200grams +++++

i got a mate nearly 18, no joke hes your height and is 235 pounds big boy he is 13% bf but still thats insane he eats and eats, although do a little cardio for health reasons but do much will hinder your gains.... Eat like a horse train like a viking.... good luck mate
 
wilson199 said:
so i shouldnt do the pyramid and just focus on heavy weights low reps? what about other supplements?
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i'm currently running a bulk myself and pyramid. i work the same major muscle groups 2-3 days a week but with a day of rest in between. also, give yourself a day off from all heavy lifting once a week. they guys alrdy mentioned eating was very important. it is. when your bulking, eat as much as you want, just make sure you keep your protein/carb/fat intake in proportion. do NOT rely on shakes as your body cannot absorb nutrients from them as well as they can from whole foods.
my bulking diet is near a 40/35/25 carb/protein/fat intake.
as for supps look into super pump 250 and size on, my bro took that for 3 weeks and blew up over 40 lbs on bench. no matter where you look your going to hear great things about NO explode but keep on the Kre-Alkylene, your body can absorb that much better than almost all other creatines. (theres something called like green machine or somethin like that that challenges it)

anyways, ill be following your progress. see if you can get some pix up on here so we can see visually how your doing as well.

-dboyzl
 
just eat man, i went from 145-202 in a little over a year from eating like a horse but i did have some help from supps. just do this, eat eat eat and when you feel like you can't eat anymore go and cram some more food down your throat.
 
yeah i will definetly up the number of meals. i was thinking of instead of taking animal stak, glutamine, and No-xplode and try RPM/drive/xfactor and recovery with Xtend. Along with protein and kre-alkyln is that too much? is there anything else i should take along with eating a **** load more like NO products? also is the 5X5 principle better than the pyramid when bulking?
 
check out the Bill Star 5x5 workout. it theoretically increases your strength 2.5% a week. i follow it as far as weight increases for sets goes but i do my own lifts. ive gone up 20 lbs on bench in this last month alrdy....
 
wilson199 said:
yeah i will definetly up the number of meals. i was thinking of instead of taking animal stak, glutamine, and No-xplode and try RPM/drive/xfactor and recovery with Xtend. Along with protein and kre-alkyln is that too much? is there anything else i should take along with eating a **** load more like NO products? also is the 5X5 principle better than the pyramid when bulking?
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yes i would do the 5x5. and i think your spending way to much on supps but hey man if you have the money go for it just dont get hooked on them and think you cant get a good work out without em. if you cant make your own weight gain shakes i would try some cytogainer i think its the best bang for your buck. but yeh thats a sh!t load of supps i would never dream of taking all those at once but you should lemme know how that goes i might go all out one month and give it a shot!
 
i dont wanna knock on the supps and piss off supp companies but to be completely honest you dont NEED any supps at all. although you do receive benefits from alot of them, most of the time its not that significant. the greatest effects ive ever felt were from beta alanine and my current stack rpm and neovar. in the 3 days i have been taking this stack i have noticed an increase in my size of my arms and neck.
as for the beta alanine i would have to recommend hyper pump. the endurance and strength gains were incredible along with the recovery....as soon as i was done with a set i was ready for the next. it led to a great WO overall.
dont go spend a shitload of money on a bunch of supps. you gain alot of muscle when you take them because you work harder to try and get your bang for your buck. thats the majority of it.
i just got my little brother into weightlifting. im not letting him take anything but im going to track his progress with pictures and WO logs and post them on this site just to prove my point.

sleep solid. eat solid. train solid.
 
drummaboyzl said:
i dont wanna knock on the supps and piss off supp companies but to be completely honest you dont NEED any supps at all. although you do receive benefits from alot of them, most of the time its not that significant. the greatest effects ive ever felt were from beta alanine and my current stack rpm and neovar. in the 3 days i have been taking this stack i have noticed an increase in my size of my arms and neck.
as for the beta alanine i would have to recommend hyper pump. the endurance and strength gains were incredible along with the recovery....as soon as i was done with a set i was ready for the next. it led to a great WO overall.
dont go spend a shitload of money on a bunch of supps. you gain alot of muscle when you take them because you work harder to try and get your bang for your buck. thats the majority of it.
i just got my little brother into weightlifting. im not letting him take anything but im going to track his progress with pictures and WO logs and post them on this site just to prove my point.

sleep solid. eat solid. train solid.
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thanks man. isnt rpm and neo var some kinda of test boosters of some sort?
 
As everyone has said already..EAT!

Have a good look through the bulking/recipes section, loads of good info on whats good to eat etc. Also don't over do it! I was speaking to some guy at the gym the other week. He was telling me his biceps weren't getting bigger. I asked him how many times he done biceps a week and he told me 6.:rant:
 
wilson199 said:
thanks man. isnt rpm and neo var some kinda of test boosters of some sort?
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neovar is a creatine ethyl ester
rpm is for vascularity, drive, focus, energy, strength....yes it does contain a natural test booster but its not in abundance. i have noticed a bit of difference in my attitude especially in my tolerance levels but its not specifically a test booster so no need for a pct.
 
wilson199 said:
Hello, This is my first post but i have been reading a few of threads.

I have just started working out this year. I am 18 and started around in august. The first few months I really deviated but the last few months i have been working hard. I started at a weight of 135 at 5' 10 and now i am around 150.
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Dude you already said it yourself, you gained 15 lbs in about 6 months! I think for most natty BB's on here thats a feat beyond all feats. Seems to me like your doing something right. Correct me if i'm wrong but it looks like your coming along jsut fine.

If you start to hit a plateau in strength or weight, change up your routine or try some different supplements to bust you through it. You don't want to gain to much all at once because lots of it could be fat. Use the mirror to judge how you are coming along. Good Luck :head:
 
Yeah, I feel like I'm kicking a dead horse, but like everyone said "EAT." Try not to complicate things too much. Just low reps, high weight. Break down your muscle tissue. If you're not sore the next day, you didnt work hard enough. More sets, more exercises, break your body down. Buy some maltodextrin or another carb product, go buy some bulk whey from trueptrotein, or a good alternative like ON whey gold standard, or whatever floats your boat and make your own shakes. they taste fine, and get the job done for way cheaper! Sleep, eat all the time with tons of protein. Meat, eggs, eat eat eat. You don't need supps necessarily to gain. I only use NO-xplode for a pre-WO because I'm not sure if I'm sold on the whole nitric oxide from aakg thing. I've noticed stronger results from yohimbine. But remember diet is way more important than supplements. Not gaining? Work harder, eat more. Be careful on refined sugars though, I wouldn't try to eat sugar all the time, no one wants to become diabetic.
 
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