Brock Lesnar has absolutely no class.
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robdog
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LMAO thanks
poison
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Which one, lol? The superman 'finish' was just as hard.
Mulletsoldier
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Do you watch Cricket?
Mulletsoldier
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Shane Darwin Carwin on Brock's antics:
The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose.
Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport int he world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just dont get it.
From leaving the venue all the way to the Airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them. The thing is I have a very tough fight ahead of me that IMO is every bit as tough and talented as Brock. Cain is no joke and he may have had a tough fight against Kongo but I got rocked against Gonzaga. Fact is we are at the top of the HWT division and anyone we fight moving forward is going to be a real test. Cain is nothing short of a super athlete with amazing wrestling and he trains with one of the best camps in the country. I am sure Joe Silva told Cain the same thing he told us, winner gets the title shot. Cain is not looking past me he is looking right at me as the person that is in his way from potentially one of the greatest opportunities of his life and mine.
Courtesy of his website.
The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just LAME. He may be a Champion but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a Champion. The fans are why we do this Brock, this sport is not about fat paychecks and drama it is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did last night. It doesn't matter how much money you make if you can't earn your peers respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world. We have no scripts in this sport, no pre-determined earning amount and no pre-determined outcomes. It doesn't matter if you win or loose it matters how you win or loose.
Every autograph I give, every hand I shake I am thankful that you give me the opportunity to be a part of your world. This is the greatest sport int he world and most of the athletes in it deserve the love and respect they get and some just dont get it.
From leaving the venue all the way to the Airport I have had fans of the sport ask me to take out Brock Lesnar for them. The thing is I have a very tough fight ahead of me that IMO is every bit as tough and talented as Brock. Cain is no joke and he may have had a tough fight against Kongo but I got rocked against Gonzaga. Fact is we are at the top of the HWT division and anyone we fight moving forward is going to be a real test. Cain is nothing short of a super athlete with amazing wrestling and he trains with one of the best camps in the country. I am sure Joe Silva told Cain the same thing he told us, winner gets the title shot. Cain is not looking past me he is looking right at me as the person that is in his way from potentially one of the greatest opportunities of his life and mine.
Courtesy of his website.
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I'm just sayin. One of the biggest sports in the country has inordinate amounts of homoerotic man fondling, but dude's annoyed by gestures of good gamesmanship in MMA? Or, another way too look at it: two dudes just got through rolling around on the floor with each other, half naked, and you're worried about the handshake/bump/raise/hug? lol
Cricket makes me cringe, but so do other team sports. Don't like em much.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
As per the cricket comment, I initially had no idea what the point of your statement was. I thought you were challenging me to a, "Let's see who can bring up sports irrelevant to the conversation to display our dry wit" contest
. At any rate:My issue is not the homoerotic contingency to the sport, nor was there anything in my statement that implied as such; however, it's interesting you choose to import the comment that way, lol.
My point was this: I find it extraneous and trivializing to fist-bump after every significant punch, takedown, takedown defense, transition, submission attempt, etc, etc; in reality, the constant in-fight recognition makes the genuine displays of "honor" somewhat trivial. I could care less about the nature of the fist-bump recognition, but rather, its excessive frequency. I find this just as annoying as every wide receiver in the NFL conjuring images of Riverdance every time they happen to make a four yard catch. Why? Because it trivializes the celebration of truly significant events in the game.
Put otherwise, and more simply, I would rather they just shut the fuck up and fight, during the fight. Both before and afterwards, I very much enjoy displays of humility and honorable gestures. I would simply rather they fight during the fight - you know, the point.
Mulletsoldier
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Just so you know, I find the displays of in-fight gamesmanship just as trivial as the displays of in-fight sportsmanship. Trash-talk prior to the fight to hype it up; honor your opponent in the post-fight to bring respect; fight during the fight to complete your duty. "Knaw mean?"
poison
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Lol, I wasn't only responding to you, but the couple posters after you who seem to be annoyed with the good sportsmanship.
Personally, I couldn't wale on someone with the intent to break them, and interject good humor like that, but that's just me. Who cares if they do? Add up the 27.3 seconds of fist bumping, and put it up against the time Joe Rogan blathers on, or Miiiiisssteeerrrr Annnounnncer Guuyyyyyy, who I'd like to punch in the throat. :lol:
I was just being a wiseass.
Personally, I couldn't wale on someone with the intent to break them, and interject good humor like that, but that's just me. Who cares if they do? Add up the 27.3 seconds of fist bumping, and put it up against the time Joe Rogan blathers on, or Miiiiisssteeerrrr Annnounnncer Guuyyyyyy, who I'd like to punch in the throat. :lol:
I was just being a wiseass.
Mulletsoldier
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Lol, I wasn't only responding to you, but the couple posters after you who seem to be annoyed with the good sportsmanship.
Personally, I couldn't wale on someone with the intent to break them, and interject good humor like that, but that's just me. Who cares if they do? Add up the 27.3 seconds of fist bumping, and put it up against the time Joe Rogan blathers on, or Miiiiisssteeerrrr Annnounnncer Guuyyyyyy, who I'd like to punch in the throat. :lol:
I was just being a wiseass.
Haha, I feel you, P.
As I said, I just find it to be a bit excessive. It is nothing more or less than the sportsmanship and mutual respect in MMA that differentiates the sport we love from, say, the NFL. I just want to keep it in the appropriate areas and times - eg.) pre/post-fight news conferences. I find it hard to believe they are trying to destroy each other - the point of unarmed combat - when they high-five and hug after every substantial punch.
416
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Brock is big, quick and strong.His wrestling is very good.I think he will do great in mma if mma can survive him.We already have senators who want to make it illegal and call it human ****fighting.The way he acts he only adds fuel to the fire.Give me people like Machida, Henderson or Fedor any day.Brock may be a great fighter but he is a sad excuse for a human being.
416
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If it was the only time he messed up I would agree.I did not like the way he acted after the herring or couture fights either.He showed no respect to Randy. He reminds me of bullies in high school.If he ever faces some one who does to him in the fight as he did to mir we will see his character.
If he keeps fighting well.If he fights fedor and beats him.Then shows respect.If he stops acting the way he has in the past.I could become a fan because then he would have defeated his biggest obstacle,himself.
jon671
Member
I like Lesners attitude. He beat Mir and got booed what do you expect? I mean is that what being a fighter in the UFC is all about pleasing the fans? I don't know much, but I do know fans talk alot of sh*t and hate on people that make more then themselves, have accomplished more and would destroy them. He also kept saying "I love it". Believe it or not most of the fighters don't give a crap about the fans, but some pretend better than others. If you don't have haters you aren't doing it right.
dedlifter1
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The first time? He danced around the ring doing the lasso like a moron after destroying heath herring. And as far as your earlier comment about size and strength always winning out, pleas explain gracie in the first three ufc's, where he competed at 180 lbs against all comers.
dedlifter1
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Oh, and he ran thru the top guys in the hw division? Thats comical. i dont think everyone here is so much a mir fan as they are lesnar-haters.
OSF Jeff
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So pre-fight **** talking is ok, but then after you get beat down and the winner talks **** to you it's not? Sorry but Mir had it coming to him and if you're going to critize Lesnar for doing it then you need to go ahead and extend that to Mir as well.
What about Henderson and his unnecessary strike on Bisping? Henderson has admitted that he knew he was knocked out and that he did the strike because "it felt good". That's a true sign of lack of respect and sportsmanship, and it doesn't matter how much you give props or hug the other guy after the fight. A cheap shot on a KO'ed fighter is much worse than cheap talk.
Now back to Lesnar again... His fight with Couture was a ****ing sham and Randy's sorry ass took a dive. That's what caused so much of the recent drama for Lesnar because the fight looked like some b.s. WWF play fight garbage.
What about Henderson and his unnecessary strike on Bisping? Henderson has admitted that he knew he was knocked out and that he did the strike because "it felt good". That's a true sign of lack of respect and sportsmanship, and it doesn't matter how much you give props or hug the other guy after the fight. A cheap shot on a KO'ed fighter is much worse than cheap talk.
Now back to Lesnar again... His fight with Couture was a ****ing sham and Randy's sorry ass took a dive. That's what caused so much of the recent drama for Lesnar because the fight looked like some b.s. WWF play fight garbage.
sanchezgreg18
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do you guys think the way lesnar acted after the fight was due to all the anger from the first fight or would it happen to do with something like AAS and PH use, or maybe just reverting to old WWE hype tactics. the more people hate you the more press you get so i guess it works in a way i mean look at all of us talking about him it certainly does generate alot of publicity. personally i think hes a douche and hope someone knocks his a$$ out cold, i just wish rampage was in heavyweight division that would be an excellent fight, but sadly theres no way lesnar could cut down to light heavyweight being the monster that he is so i doubt this matchup would ever happen sadly
thegodfather
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Exactly. Anyone who has trained in a martial art has learned respect and dicipline comes first, fighting second. This is why it is so well liked among the general population, because you can see two guys beating the **** out of each other one second, and the next they are buddies again. This shows the bigger picture of true martial art mentality. Someone talking trash before and after a fight is nothing more than a punk with skills.
mixedup
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tito used to do the grave digger move. hendo admitted he punched bisping after he knew he was knocked out, Silva plays the air guitar. It's all part of the game. and having been in the MMA game for over a decade now I realize that. I remember when we were fighting on indian reservatioons and everybody looked at us like we we animals for fighting in the cage. SO as someone who has fought professionally and trained with the BEST(Im from Cesar) in the world I'd much rather have the spectacle that is Brock then the loathing that we used to get
Jessep76
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Yeah certainly not the first time he's fked up, but definitely the worst.
Gets in Mir's face at the end when Mir was stumbling around or one could argue he was going over to Brock but looked more like me when i'm drunk and walking to my car
. Talks sh!t about the sponsers with the logo in the middle of the ring. Big no no. And flips off the fans. No its not all about making the fans happy in the UFC but one could say it is about making the heads of the organization happy.
searl12
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funny when did I say size always wins out? and like I said earlier if the whole world booed you and every guy you gought underestimated you....how classy of a fckn dude would you be?
and gracie winning all those before shows you how unskilled the fighter pool was, I also remember him getting fckn layed on and destroyed by Matt hughes...then testing positive for a banned substance.
I dont know who you are but you need to offer more than you just did and get the facts str8.
lesner is who he is and he dont give a fck, thats why I like him, why give respect to the millions who boo him, and say hes a amateur, why give respect to anyone.
dropshot001
Member
i thought it was cool that lesnar gave an interview and actually said what was on his mind instead of spouting some cliches about how he is going to go back and train and how he was going to try to improve. we have too many people just trying to be politically correct nowadays that it is nice to finally get an honest interview. its just sad that when this happens everyone gets outraged
searl12
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Agreed man, one more time for everyone...he got dissed, disrespected, laughed at and called an amateur....how fckn nice , happy and respectful do you expect a guy who works his ass off to be?
I like his attititude and if noone gives him respect then fck all of them, the fans, the media, his opponents...personally too he very easily may be the baddest dude alive wether anyone likes it or not, and Yes Fedor is a MACHINE but toe to toe that fight is hard to call and I guarantee Lesner comes ready to bring that uglt Russian a war.
I like his attititude and if noone gives him respect then fck all of them, the fans, the media, his opponents...personally too he very easily may be the baddest dude alive wether anyone likes it or not, and Yes Fedor is a MACHINE but toe to toe that fight is hard to call and I guarantee Lesner comes ready to bring that uglt Russian a war.
dropshot001
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i think lesnar would be one of fedor's biggest test considering his size and strength and wrestling abilities.
searl12
Banned
Absolutely, I cannot wait for this fight, one thing I guarantee is that the entire world underestimates Brock, the fans boo him, and one more thing...he brings hell to that ugly russian win or lose...he also strikes me as the type of guy who if he loses bad enough would come back and fckn kill someone...outside the ring...Im going out on a limb and Picking lesner over fedor, even though I know Fedor is the truth.
How many of you would want to meet Lesner in an alley way? foaming and spitting ou the mouth cause hes so fckn angered.
i think people underestimate the power of hate and anger in a fight...most think you want to be calm and steady so you dont make a mistake.....I think the snarling angered madman approach works wonders. At least its worked for me whenever Ive had to go to war.
How many of you would want to meet Lesner in an alley way? foaming and spitting ou the mouth cause hes so fckn angered.
i think people underestimate the power of hate and anger in a fight...most think you want to be calm and steady so you dont make a mistake.....I think the snarling angered madman approach works wonders. At least its worked for me whenever Ive had to go to war.
Jessep76
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This isn't really about being politically correct. I think some people like MMA for the discipline and the art form and other people like college kids and Coors drinking meat heads enjoy the blood and drama. The UFC even has a show that caters to those types, its called ultimate knockouts.
Rodja
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The irony about all of this is that Brock's goal was to get this kind of reaction. Every sport needs a villain/hated persona and he knows how to do it effectively. There is a natural charisma to him that draws people's interest. I found what he did to be refreshing and warranted. He's human and freely expressed his feelings/emotions. Plus, Mir talked some major, major trash for months leading up to this fight. In fac, he talked much more trash than Brock.
searl12
Banned
OMFG, OMFG, my nemesis on this entire site actually has something positive to say AND ACTUALLY AGREES WITH WHAT i HAVE SAID
OH MY FCKN GOD the world is truly fcked now.
I was expecting a smug cynical as s gole response from you...i am truly shocked.
Mulletsoldier
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This. Actually, "refreshing" was the actual word I used to my little brother to describe his actions. As I said earlier: I am so tired of the 'plastic-rivalries' between people that it was nice to see a genuine distaste.
dedlifter1
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you didnt make the size over all comment-fair enough, I made a mistake. I love Matt hughes, but gimme a break. gracie was a shell of the fighter he once was. C'mon, the way Lesnar acted after the herring fight was ridiculous. Hopefully he will get mangled by someone, and soon. And, however "unskilled"the fighter pool may have been, gracie was an animal, there is no argument for that.
searl12
Banned
well Fedor will certainly be the one who will ry next in my opinion...and both of those guys know it will be a war.
Like I said man , I dont think it was a great reaction. but why in the fck should he have acted any other way? no respect FROM ANYONE!
If anyone deserves to act like he does its him.
dedlifter1
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I can certainly see your point, any brawl I was ever in, I wasnt plesant afterward to say the least. I dont think he needs to respect any one, but he doesnt need to show such disrespect either. i understand he was all jacked up after the fight, I',m sure he will come around a bit. Perhaps an ass whipping at the hands of a real fighter will change his tune a bit. i think the fact that this sport has become so much more accepted than it once was needs to be taken into consideration. I just think sportsmanship after the fight is not a bad thing.
bigdognhb
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Until I heard Dana chewed his ass I was about ready to stop watching UFC all together. Both talked **** before hand. Fine. Build up the hype and sell the tickets and PPV. I however blame Dana and the UFC for Lesner's WWE antics. You know damn well that they brought him over to try to pull from the WWE fan base and I could see how he thought that was what they wanted. The UFC thinks they'll be able to get Fedor now. God I hope so. I think Fedor will distroy Lesner. Or Fedor is going to tell the UFC to piss off all together and go to Dream
VolcomX311
Legend
You have no idea how many times I've had to "defend" Brock's legitimacy.
It's a fan's prerogative to hate or love whoever they so choose, but when the hate is based on some ignorant schit, that just becomes irritating.
Hater trains happen, that's the nature of sports in general, but when someone tries to put together a factual argument against an athlete and every major fact is beyond ignorant, it again, is just beyond irritating.
VolcomX311
Legend
Mir is a broken tool.
Rodja
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Word. Lesnar has actually accomplished much, much more as a martial artist than Mir. Hell, Babalu tore Mir up in a submission grappling contest. Lesnar looks like he is going to be what everyone thought Mark Kerr was going to be back in the late-90's.
If you don't know who that is, you have some major reading to do.
Jessep76
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Hughes tested positive? Not saying its a surprise but this is news to me. I've not heard of anyone getting busted besides Sherk. Except of coarse other substances with Karo. And the dangerous pot that D-OZ was on.
Rodja
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Royce tested positive for nandralone after he fought Saku in Cali. Thiago, Irvin, Sylvia, Barnett, Kimo, and many others have been busted. Most of them happen in Cali and there has to be something behind the scenes at the CSAC.