Brief rundown of Ultimate 2.0 vs. CKD vs. The Anabolic Diet

JayRock

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I've done keto, and i refuse to do it anymore. It worked to get more to 13-14%bf, but i did not function well. I'm interested in recomping and I was wondering if someone could give me a brief rundown of how the Ultimate 2.0 diet works and how it measures up to CKD/AD? thanks
 
IIRC, the UD 2.0 is an updated and modified version of BodyOpus, where Lyle McDonald adjusted workouts and dietary plans from the original in ways that he believes are more effective. It is cyclical in nature, but not specifically for the purposes of getting into ketosis. It's more of a depletion workouts while eating low carb, then refeed and hitting the gym hard. Lyle warns that it's not an easy diet and that it's really only for males at 12-15% and women at 21-24% bf already.

While I'm fuzzy on recalling the details, I've read all three books, and in many ways they are similar in their cyclical nature. The differences are in diet and recommended workouts. I'm sure other people can provide better information than I, but I will point you to Lyle McDonald's site. If you haven't been there before, it's got lots of interesting info.

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sarguy said:
IIRC, the UD 2.0 is an updated and modified version of BodyOpus, where Lyle McDonald adjusted workouts and dietary plans from the original in ways that he believes are more effective. It is cyclical in nature, but not specifically for the purposes of getting into ketosis. It's more of a depletion workouts while eating low carb, then refeed and hitting the gym hard. Lyle warns that it's not an easy diet and that it's really only for males at 12-15% and women at 21-24% bf already.

While I'm fuzzy on recalling the details, I've read all three books, and in many ways they are similar in their cyclical nature. The differences are in diet and recommended workouts. I'm sure other people can provide better information than I, but I will point you to Lyle McDonald's site. If you haven't been there before, it's got lots of interesting info.

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UD 2.0 has much less fat in it and more extreme calorie fluctuations. The carb ups were fun as hell though. Lyle has stated on his forum that even UD 2.0 could use some updates as it was written several years ago now. I'd assume the same is true for the Anabolic Diet.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
UD 2.0 has much less fat in it and more extreme calorie fluctuations. The carb ups were fun as hell though. Lyle has stated on his forum that even UD 2.0 could use some updates as it was written several years ago now. I'd assume the same is true for the Anabolic Diet.
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Now that ya mention it, I recall reading the same thing on his forum. I think my fave part about the UD 2.0 is Lyle's warning that the workouts while in a depleted state could cause nausea, fatigue, and a general desire to track him down and kick his @ss.
 
sarguy said:
Now that ya mention it, I recall reading the same thing on his forum. I think my fave part about the UD 2.0 is Lyle's warning that the workouts while in a depleted state could cause nausea, fatigue, and a general desire to track him down and kick his @ss.
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After doing it, that is in fact true. I cursed his ass once or twice on Thursday when working out before the carb up.
 
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