breezy11
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You can be "BBer material" at 150lbs.
Thanks Jiigzz. I'll most likely make the switch at some point, but probably give a National level show a shot first. I think my frame might be better suited for BB as well.
Thanks bud.
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You can be "BBer material" at 150lbs.
Thanks Jiigzz. I'll most likely make the switch at some point, but probably give a National level show a shot first. I think my frame might be better suited for BB as well.
Thanks bud.
aceroni
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You're telling me Jesse Norris is drug tested and weighs 220 in that photo..?
Sean1332
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No sir. But he holds the drug tested 198 & 220 drug tested squat records. I've seen that he's well surpassed 700 though, meaning, he's on PED's now. Otherwise those records woulda been updated.
breezy11
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Yeah, pretty good. I was curious what you PL guys would think.
Lol it's still an awesome goal to shoot for, which I think you'll accomplish.
I'll have today's back session posted shortly. I'll be doing my own training for the next month or so, as I finished with the Meadows program and won't start a new one until after my competition. It was originally going to take me into my final week of prep, but that changed when the comp date got pushed back. That said, I'll still be doing Mtn. Dog and my sessions will have a lot of influence from John's latest programs and what he's doing currently as well. Volume and intensity are going to be at a very high level, which was the case today. I haven't been this beat up from a back session in quite a while and it feels fantastic. :thumbsup:
breezy11
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breezy11
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Lat Pulldowns
80x10 (warm-up)
100x10 (warm-up)
120x10 (warm-up)
140x10
150x10
160x10
170x10 w/10sec isohold, 120x8 w/10sec isohold
-moderately wide pronated grip
-slight lean back/driving elbows down
-I would've preferred forced reps on the final set, but subbed isotension (stopping/holding bar about halfway up on the eccentric) due to training alone.
Banded (old school) T-Bar Rows
25x20 (warm-up)
25x30 (warm-up)
30x40, x5 no band
35x40, x5 no band
35x40, x5 no band
50x26 (failure)
-This was brutal and I was very close to puking
-I got into a rhythm and pumped these out, while maintaining solid form. The additional reps without a band were done with a 2sec hard flex.
-Another exercise where I would've liked forced reps. I started them banded instead, so I could extend the set once removing the added tension.
DB Pullovers
60x10
60x10
60x10 w/10sec isohold
-good chance to catch my breath
Rack Pulls
135x5 (warm-up)
185x5 (warm-up)
225x5 (warm-up)
275x3
315x3
365x3
405x10
-pulling from mid-shin level
-worked up to what would be a somewhat tough triple and did a challenge set to failure
-Not being able to take advantage of leg drive and being towards the end of a session, made these very tough.
Prone DB Shrugs
80x10
80x10
80x10
80x10
-slow and controlled with a 3 sec hold/flex at the top
80x10 (warm-up)
100x10 (warm-up)
120x10 (warm-up)
140x10
150x10
160x10
170x10 w/10sec isohold, 120x8 w/10sec isohold
-moderately wide pronated grip
-slight lean back/driving elbows down
-I would've preferred forced reps on the final set, but subbed isotension (stopping/holding bar about halfway up on the eccentric) due to training alone.
Banded (old school) T-Bar Rows
25x20 (warm-up)
25x30 (warm-up)
30x40, x5 no band
35x40, x5 no band
35x40, x5 no band
50x26 (failure)
-This was brutal and I was very close to puking
-I got into a rhythm and pumped these out, while maintaining solid form. The additional reps without a band were done with a 2sec hard flex.
-Another exercise where I would've liked forced reps. I started them banded instead, so I could extend the set once removing the added tension.
DB Pullovers
60x10
60x10
60x10 w/10sec isohold
-good chance to catch my breath
Rack Pulls
135x5 (warm-up)
185x5 (warm-up)
225x5 (warm-up)
275x3
315x3
365x3
405x10
-pulling from mid-shin level
-worked up to what would be a somewhat tough triple and did a challenge set to failure
-Not being able to take advantage of leg drive and being towards the end of a session, made these very tough.
Prone DB Shrugs
80x10
80x10
80x10
80x10
-slow and controlled with a 3 sec hold/flex at the top
wasme
Legend
Exactly how I do a tbar row in my garage
- another fine update and very interested to see how your workouts unfold over the next few weeks..
jimbuick
Legend
I can agree with that for weight class sports, but there is no denying that the heavier lifters move more weight even if they don't move more weight lb for lb.
I'm just saying, there is something to be said for absolute strength levels in athletes with higher bodyfat.
Otherwise, Zydrunas Savickas wouldn't have so many records and so many WSM titles and podium placings.
I'm just saying, there is something to be said for absolute strength levels in athletes with higher bodyfat.
Otherwise, Zydrunas Savickas wouldn't have so many records and so many WSM titles and podium placings.
breezy11
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Nice. I like using that setup more often than the actual machines (chest supported and not).
Thanks man. Today's leg session is going to be ridiculous.
Yeah, I could see "extra" bodyweight being beneficial with some WSM events (like truck pull), where it can be used to help "move" the weight, but I wouldn't necessarily consider that more "strength". However, I'd think those same people could be leaner, just as strong, and improve their time in other events, due to better mobility/explosiveness.
jimbuick
Legend
The leverage gained from the extra bodyweight helps in almost every event.
If what you said were true Mariusz Pudzianowski would hold all of the records that Zydrunas has because Mariusz was very lean. But, Zydrunas is the one with all of the lifting records.
Also if being leaner were beneficial for WSM the podium every year wouldn't be full of guys that weigh 400+, it would have the lighter BW athletes that carry less body fat.
And, don't confuse high levels of bodyfat with poor conditioning as they are not the same. No one ever wins WSM by doing terribly at events that involve conditioning (stone runs, loading races, fingals fingers, truck pull, I could go on) and I would bet any amount of money that their conditioning is better than all of ours, even with the extra BW.
jimbuick
Legend
From the man himself.
breezy11
Well-known member
This morning's leg session was full of intensity (not relative to 1RM) and my legs are still shaking uncontrollably.
Lying Leg Curls
65x15
65x15
65x15
65x15
65x15
65x15
-warming up hamstrings/getting some blood into legs
Reverse Band Barbell Squats
135x10 (warm-up)
185x10 (warm-up)
225x10 (warm-up)
275x8
315x8
365x8
405x8
425x8
445x13
-worked up with explosive sets of 8 until speed was compromised
-finished with a challenge set
-band setup worked out well; provided some pop out of the bottom and had me holding all the weight at the top
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2nd working set: I should've charged my phone before heading to the gym, as it died when trying to record the challenge set. I would've liked to get the other exercises on video as well.
[video=youtube_share;s54rwpNRUnQ]http://youtu.be/s54rwpNRUnQ[/video]
Banded Hack Squats
20 reps with just the weight of the machine (no bands)
20 reps with Pro Monster Minis
25 reps with Pro Monster Minis/Pro Minis + 10 second isotension
25 reps with Pro Monster Minis/Pro Minis + 10 second isotension + 10 second rest (lockout) + 5 second isotension
-feet low on platform, heels together, toes pointed out, pushing with balls of feet
-slow/controlled eccentric with no lockout at the top
-isotension: slowly lowered to where tension reached it's peak and held in place
HS Iso Leg Extensions
50x20
50x26 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isotension
50x25 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isotension
-1st set with strict form and a 2 second flex at the top of each rep
-2nd and 3rd sets just pumping out reps to failure before forced reps (HS machine has "arms" that allowed me to continue with assisted reps) and isotension (pushed down on arms and fought the added tension)
Lying Leg Curls
80x15
80x15 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isohold
80x15 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isohold
Lying Leg Curls
65x15
65x15
65x15
65x15
65x15
65x15
-warming up hamstrings/getting some blood into legs
Reverse Band Barbell Squats
135x10 (warm-up)
185x10 (warm-up)
225x10 (warm-up)
275x8
315x8
365x8
405x8
425x8
445x13
-worked up with explosive sets of 8 until speed was compromised
-finished with a challenge set
-band setup worked out well; provided some pop out of the bottom and had me holding all the weight at the top
Invalid Link Removed
2nd working set: I should've charged my phone before heading to the gym, as it died when trying to record the challenge set. I would've liked to get the other exercises on video as well.
[video=youtube_share;s54rwpNRUnQ]http://youtu.be/s54rwpNRUnQ[/video]
Banded Hack Squats
20 reps with just the weight of the machine (no bands)
20 reps with Pro Monster Minis
25 reps with Pro Monster Minis/Pro Minis + 10 second isotension
25 reps with Pro Monster Minis/Pro Minis + 10 second isotension + 10 second rest (lockout) + 5 second isotension
-feet low on platform, heels together, toes pointed out, pushing with balls of feet
-slow/controlled eccentric with no lockout at the top
-isotension: slowly lowered to where tension reached it's peak and held in place
HS Iso Leg Extensions
50x20
50x26 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isotension
50x25 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isotension
-1st set with strict form and a 2 second flex at the top of each rep
-2nd and 3rd sets just pumping out reps to failure before forced reps (HS machine has "arms" that allowed me to continue with assisted reps) and isotension (pushed down on arms and fought the added tension)
Lying Leg Curls
80x15
80x15 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isohold
80x15 + 5 forced reps + 10 second isohold
bean5er
Well-known member
Totally agree with you ace. Ice tried this same routine and it killed my knees. I'm hoping some sleeves and icy hot may help next time.
wasme
Legend
Was just going to mention that Invalid Link Removed
breezy11
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Ha yeah, they're alright. Just an occasional twitch at this point. I was a sweaty mess.
I'm surprised you don't. You could try leaning back into a Smith as an alternative.
There was literally no strain on my knees at all. Staying on/pushing off the balls of my feet seemed to lessen the potential impact as well; provided a little extra "give".
Thanks wasme. Go B's!
breezy11
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Cream of Rice, OEProtein, and nut butter. Look forward to it everyday (pre-workout).:thumbsup:
pete8407
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Awesome thank you. I see the bands are on sale. I think I'm going to go with a set of minis, a set of monster minis and a set of micros. Do you think that's good?
gymwrenchwv
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Heard lots of good things about the creamed rice. Yet to pull the trigger myself though
Montego1
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I MIGHT have to try after prep......better be good or I'm throwing it at people on the street.
pete8407
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I was at the grocery so I figured why not.
pete8407
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I actually think I'm going to go with a pair of minis and a pair of micros. If I wanted something heavier than the minis I could always combine the minis and micros together couldn't I? Then it would be like the monster mini. Any input
wasme
Legend
I actually think I'm going to go with a pair of minis and a pair of micros. If I wanted something heavier than the minis I could always combine the minis and micros together couldn't I? Then it would be like the monster mini. Any input
When my band pack arrived the colors were different than the picture shown for the mountain dog training pack. Not entirely sure which is which - I just use them based on feel.
breezy11
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You'll never want oats again.
I actually think I'm going to go with a pair of minis and a pair of micros. If I wanted something heavier than the minis I could always combine the minis and micros together couldn't I? Then it would be like the monster mini. Any input
You should be alright with those. You could double the Pro Minis for certain exercises as well.
I believe this is what you have:
Red: Pro Mini, Pro Short Mini
Green: Pro Monster Mini
Orange: Pro Light, Pro Micro
wasme
Legend
I will check when I get home and confirm... before the big game of course.
pete8407
Well-known member
Ok I did 1/4 cup cream of rice with almost 2 level scoops of chocolate PB swirl protein and sliced a banana on top. Wow! This is damn good!!! Thanks breezy
bean5er
Well-known member
Have it as a pre wo meal. No harm done imo. I'm doing John's recipe atm. Cream of rice nut butter and sugar free chocolate syrup protein powder
Same here. No idea
Edit- thanks breezy for squaring that away.
wasme
Legend
Quick question.. are you taking this an hour before lifting or ? If you are also using a preworkout powder what is your time line like leading into the workout?
pete8407
Well-known member
Great question, I was wondering as well. Also this maybe a stupid question but when you say nut butter you mean peanut butter right?
bean5er
Well-known member
Obviously I'm not breezy lol but I'm taking mine about 45 mins b4 my lift or a tad sooner. I then hit uo my stimul8 or Ignite2 a out 10 mins b4 I begin my lift.
bean5er
Well-known member
I actually quit having oats pre wo as they were giving me a huge gut ache. Cream of rice absorbs way faster so it's a huge win imo. The chocolate syrup is awesome for flavor.
wasme
Legend
Oats pre do the same thing to be.. will give this a go. Thanks for sharing your pre-protocol Justin.
breezy11
Well-known member
No problem. Glad you liked it man.
Pre-workout of champions. :thumbsup:
No problem, bud.
I eat my Cream of Rice immediately before heading to the gym, which is usually 30-45 mins before I actually start training. I rarely use pre-workout stims anymore. Probably a couple times per month. If I do, I drink my pre on the ride to the gym, right after my meal.
Peanut or almond butter. I rotate based on what flavor OEProtein I'm using. Vanilla with almond, Banana with peanut, Strawberry or Chocolate is a toss up.
I literally haven't had a single oat since first trying Cream of Rice.
gymwrenchwv
Well-known member
Ok ok ok. I'm sold. This is going in the basket next grocery day lol
pete8407
Well-known member
It won't disappoint, its great with protein mixed in
wasme
Legend
Just checked.. and you are right on the money. Thanks for clearing that up for me lol
breezy11
Well-known member
Some motivational words from the young, but knowledgeable and insightful, Alexander Juan Antonio Cortes :
"On finding passion,
Had a conversation with a friend yesterday who wanted to know how I had "found" my passion in the fitness industry.
I didnt find. I BUILT IT.
I never planned to work in this field or had grand foresight in goal setting. Truth be told, Ive never set goals in anything, I just had things I wanted to do, so I learned what i needed to do and then did them. I started personal training in college part time and after walking out of the performing arts field, training I enjoyed enough to keep on doing.
I always had a commitment to improving at it, but there were many times when I considered quitting and doing something else. Apathy, doubt, resentment were things I experienced. I just never gave into them
So Despite those periods, I held fast to the belief that so long as I worked as hard as I could, those points of doubts would be followed by periods of growth. Much like having strength or muscle stagnate and then super compensate, there are times when you simply need to keep your head down and do work, and trust the process of this leads to something.
Year over year I found myself loving it more and more, even when I wanted to break up with it. And the more into it I was, the more it rewarded me, and the harder I worked the more opportunities presented themselves, and then the harder I could work taking those on, and so on and so forth
So the "finding" of passion then, I really dont believe it works that way at all. And everyone young my age thats flighty and "searching" really needs to take a step back and WORK at something before declaring themselves lost. You're not lost, but youve likely never worked hard enough at anything to "find" yourself in it."
"On finding passion,
Had a conversation with a friend yesterday who wanted to know how I had "found" my passion in the fitness industry.
I didnt find. I BUILT IT.
I never planned to work in this field or had grand foresight in goal setting. Truth be told, Ive never set goals in anything, I just had things I wanted to do, so I learned what i needed to do and then did them. I started personal training in college part time and after walking out of the performing arts field, training I enjoyed enough to keep on doing.
I always had a commitment to improving at it, but there were many times when I considered quitting and doing something else. Apathy, doubt, resentment were things I experienced. I just never gave into them
So Despite those periods, I held fast to the belief that so long as I worked as hard as I could, those points of doubts would be followed by periods of growth. Much like having strength or muscle stagnate and then super compensate, there are times when you simply need to keep your head down and do work, and trust the process of this leads to something.
Year over year I found myself loving it more and more, even when I wanted to break up with it. And the more into it I was, the more it rewarded me, and the harder I worked the more opportunities presented themselves, and then the harder I could work taking those on, and so on and so forth
So the "finding" of passion then, I really dont believe it works that way at all. And everyone young my age thats flighty and "searching" really needs to take a step back and WORK at something before declaring themselves lost. You're not lost, but youve likely never worked hard enough at anything to "find" yourself in it."