Break Down Your Team's Schedule and Chances in 2006

Drew Tate is being overshadowed by Smith, Henne, Stanton and even Ethan Morelli (PSU) to some degree. He isn't Brady Quinn, but he is a very good QB who can win games. he won't turn the ball over too often and is good for 2-3TDs on most days
 
Tate is a winner... Period. Reminds me a lot of Breese when he was at Purdue but more mobile. Just tough as nails. Makes people around him better... Very underrated.

Anthony Morelli (watched him several times in HS) has a freaking ROCKET of an arm, and is really accurate. I am not sure the best way to word this but I am not sure how mentally tough he is. If he makes a couple mistakes or gets hot a couple times I need to see how he reacts. I recall Brady Quinn in HS as well, between his JR year and his SR year was the most remarkable improvement I have ever seen. He comes from a GREAT family and even if he was a traitor (j/k, kind of) I wish him well.
 
Whisky with a new coach and I am not sure they have as much talent as Iowa. Their QB is a lot better then people think, and they always have a good line and RB combo. They are just not as deep and will lose 2-3 in the Big Ten I think.
 
craigblitz said:
Tate is a winner... Period. Reminds me a lot of Breese when he was at Purdue but more mobile. Just tough as nails. Makes people around him better... Very underrated.
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IMO Tate is overrated. He showed his nerves in the OSU game last year, throwing temper tantrums and such. I like Stanton at MSU, on the other hand, and think he can be great.
 
jmh80 said:
That exception was, of course, a dubious one*.

Yet - I digress.
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those officials called more ticky tack pass interference calls against us than you so it all equals out.We were better, our defense surprised an as usual c0cky team.Our defense was better,our special teams were better, our fans were better, our band was better, our fvcking cheerleaders even kicked field goals better at halftime.
 
BingeAndPurge said:
IMO Tate is overrated. He showed his nerves in the OSU game last year, throwing temper tantrums and such. I like Stanton at MSU, on the other hand, and think he can be great.
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As I think I have stated before I love Tate and I am hoping Iowa finally pulls this off. BUT, for some reason I cant stand all the hype around freakin Stanton at MSU. I have seen him play and he honestly seems just like Smoker before, just an average QB(for a major conference team). I know I dont scout him or see him play all the time but he has never impressed me. Tate however has, along with the other Big 10 QB's, he looks the best true QB. Troy Smith has definitly improved over the years, but I dont trust him and Ginn being a solid combo. Ginn thrived off Holmes, and needs to prove himself as a #1(he could do it, but I am thinking hes more of a slasher #2 type). Henne needs to step up and take control of the offense and show that Hart isnt the only way for Michigan to score. Cupito is going to be lost without the Maroney/Russell combo, even if they still decide to run it 99% of the time. Stocco could be another Jim Sorgi, nothign spectacular but can do enough to keep them a double digit win team. Purdue I know has a new QB cuz Kirsh decided to leave for some reason, Indiana, Illinois, NW I dont see having a real shot no matter what. And Anthony Perrilli(sp?) I havnt seen enough, but with the offense PSU will have around him, they could surprise some top teams. I mean their D is still of high quality. Thats my rant on the Big 10, I will make this clear however, I am not a Big 10 guy. I live in FL and just see the early morning Big 10 games on ESPN, along with the big games of coarse. But feel free to challenge my opinion, of coarse not everyone agrees with everyone.


By the way JMH only 9 more days!!!!
 
You have to be f*cking kidding me.
Again?!?!?!
:frustrate :frustrate :frustrate :frustrate :frustrate

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Rogue Drone said:
You know, I know, We all know - The value of a QB is overrated to a team's success. You know, I know, We all know - that was a feces ious latenight contribution to this discussion.
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I dunno about that, cmon your telling me OU will be almost as solid as they would be with Bomar playing?? For some teams it is overrated, but for others its the key. Look at UF last year, Leak could never get the system and they suffered(not saying its his fault either, hes not an option qb). But then on the other side look at Craig Krenzel, he was just an average qb who won(eh...) a natl championship. It depends on the rest of the team to see if the QB has to lead or not.

And yeah, I just got home from a ****ty party and was bored. It happens.
 
Rogue Drone said:
That was mostly me being earlymorning anatagonistic for the F off it, and the average ESPN video educated, not pointing fingers at anyone here, fan puts too much faith in a talented QB who lacks the supporting cast , or is a bad fit for the system in use,or appeard to be a lot better than he is because of the system in use . A lot of OU fans think that getting rid of Bomar could be a step back and two steps forward, Chris Leak is a question mark in a system that's a question mark against SEC level defenses, and I had much admiration for Krenzel at OSU, not the greatest athlete,a very football and academically smart guy.
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Yeah you dont need to have the best QB in the nation to be successful. I mean look how many college stud QBs turn into nothing in the NFL. I mean still its a totally different game(no option qb's, better defense, less teams, etc.). Plus Jay Cutler showed us it last year, he alone pretty much kept Vandy in some games, but still only won 5 games. While you see someone like Jason White, Ken Dorsey, and Craig Krenzel who were smart qbs, but also had all the talent in the world around them.
 
jmh80 said:
You have to be f*cking kidding me.
Again?!?!?!
:frustrate :frustrate :frustrate :frustrate :frustrate

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From living in FL for the past 12 years, I can tell you that I am pretty confident the game will be fine. The path shows it not making any real threat until Tuesday. Hopefully we dont have another sloppy rain filled game like the other year. But we should be ok, and dont they have a backup plan already set, like to play on Saturday if chances arent looking good for Monday??
 
Who knows.
I think the hurricane rule is that if the game can't be played at the home team's stadium, it's supposed to be played at the road team's place.
However, at this point Tally is more in the line of fire than South FLA.
So - who knows at this point.

I don't think the open dates line up for UM and FSU - which complicates matters.
 
I go with CEd on the fact that ohio state should/will go undefeated. Miami of Fl. should also. In saying that both OSU and Miami fl. dont go undefeated its a disappointing season. The first 3-4 weeks is going to show alot about alot of teams as the big names play each other. ND vs. penn state and michigan. OSU against Texas. miami vs florida state. ca vs tenn. lsu vs auburn. neb vs. usc. osu vs iowa. then in like week 5 or 6 lsu vs florida. so your gonna know were teams stand pretty quick. All in all i cant wait
 
Here's my Miami prediction.
I said I had the opportunity to revise.

I'm thinking Penn State 2005 for us. Some true freshman step up BIG-TIME for probably the first time ever. (We don't start true frosh normally.)

I think we beat FSU by 3 or 4 points. (Doesn't come down to a field goal though). Something like 17-13 or so. I don't think either team scores more than 20.

I think Louisville beats us. Reason is Micheal Bush. We aren't good against big backs like that normally (Greg Jones killed us) and it's a road game.

I think the kids are fired up from that and run the table the rest of the way playing Clemson in Jacksonville for the ACC title. (I think they beat FSU at FSU.)
I think their RB - James Davis - gives us a helluva game but we pull it out in the end with the help of Greg Olson (TE).

We head to a big bowl - hoping it's the Fiesta. But - I doubt it. The media will screw Miami given a chance (see 2000).
 
Rogue Drone said:
For the benefit of my Buckeye friends and those otherwise interested, here's a link to my favorite Michigan football blogger's take on OSU.

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And so it begins with the scUM north and south folks (that's Michigan and Miami for those who are confused).

I agree with some of this, disagree with some, and am laughing either way. On Gonzo: "He's no Ginn but don't let his lack of skin pigmentation fool you: the guy can run." I don't think he's saying much that a lot of Buckeye fans arent already a little nervous about. I think being ranked #1 and losing the players on D that we did has us all a little edgy until we see what Texas turns out like.
 
Ill let the UM OSU guys keep it to themselves. But tomorrow finally we get a glimpse of college football!! South Carolina vs Mississippi State and BC vs. Central Michigan. At least there will be something to watch to hold me over until Saturday, and then of coarse MONDAY!!!!
 
Yup.

Did you see all the FSU-Miami replays over the Sun/Mon timeframe on Classic????
Some good ones on there (most of the wide rights and the wide left). :thumbsup:
 
jmh80 said:
Yup.

Did you see all the FSU-Miami replays over the Sun/Mon timeframe on Classic????
Some good ones on there (most of the wide rights and the wide left). :thumbsup:
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haha thanks for the reminder.
 
D'Andrea out for the season.
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Thoughts?
Would seem to hurt the team from my point of view - but the article doesn't say that.
 
jmh80 said:
D'Andrea out for the season.
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Thoughts?
Would seem to hurt the team from my point of view - but the article doesn't say that.
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Don't know for sure. I haven't heard anything about him being even on the 2nd team. He's been hurt practically his whole college career. He's medicalled twice I think. The impact is that he was a huge prospect once upon a time and does have some experience that OSU's D seems to lack, but are trying to make up for with the JUCO and Indiana transfers.
 
CAL is a complete joke (as I previously stated).
They play football like a bunch of John Kerry Hippies - they came out completely scared and Tennessee is exposing them. Longshore is about as good as Kyle Boller in the NFL.
USC is going to beat them by 30.
CAL should look into joining the WAC/

edit: update: wow Cal is absolutely horrible (9:16, 3rd quarter). They can't even get a first down
 
buffb2 said:
I go with CEd on the fact that ohio state should/will go undefeated. Miami of Fl. should also.
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oh I didn't say that :)
Ohio State is losing to Penn St. and Iowa
 
Congrats to the Noles.


After watching the lifeless 2nd half against FSU (and one of THE worst offensive lines in America) - I'm not sure if Miami will win 8 games this year.

It's possible we could lose to Duke.

Time for the Coker era to end.
:aargh: :aargh: :aargh: :aargh: :aargh: :aargh:
 
^^^^
I agree, Croker needs to leave.
I'm surprised, I got this one exactly right - 13-10 FSU. Sloppy.
where's butch davis these days?
 
in other news, West Virginia and their fans make me sick. They are a bunch of obese drunks and the team has an easier schedule than most D1AAs
 
I hear Butch is available.
Don't think he's looking to come back to college though.
But - who knows.
 
I think this loss and the USC win - ties Pete Carroll with Choker for best record in the past 4 years?

weird how that works. I never thought Coker was worth a sh1t, he won with Davis' team. Whatever the story is, I respect your opinion JHM - all the Miami fans in the swamp are so unrealistic - they think every Miami team is by far the best in the nation. I've listened to how Devin Hester was better than Ed Reed and Shaun Taylor combined. Miami no longer 'reloads' they 'rebuild'. is that Cokers' fault? could be..

It's USC that reloads. That's why anyone who hates on this USC team is in for a surprise - there is no Reggie Bush, but this team is faster than 04 and 05. Carroll said so. Booty the #1 prospect overall in the freshman class that in included Michael Bush (used to be a QB), Kyle Wright and Brady Quinn. He's going to be really really good
 
Rogue Drone said:
I agree , USC is #1 in my mind, until proven otherwise.

Tennesee is still #23 in the Coaches poll, :fool2: like I said previously, they aren't watching the games.

I was 17-4 ATS, paper only at this point, lost on BC, OU, ISU and Cal.
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Agreed on the ignorance of many voters. Give me polls on Oct 1st and no sooner please.

Anyway, I went 18-3 ATS in yahoo.
 
Here's a few questions I'll throw out:

What do you think of the new rule change with the clock?

Texas fans: how do the suspensions affect Saturday's game against OSU? I ask because I don't know your team very well. I'd honestly rather see the teams play straight up so don't think I'm happy about the news.
 
BingeAndPurge said:
What do you think of the new rule change with the clock?
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I honestly think its a stupid rule. Takes away valuable time, and I would like to see them get rid of this rule next year. I mean a team picks the ball off with 10 sec to go with no timeouts and has to run on and kick it right away fro the win??? Cmon they should be given the time they need, just like previous rules.
 
I don't like the rule change either.

I was at Cal-UT last Saturday.
My thoughts: Cal played more lethargic early on than even Miami (which should make them ashamed) - but they didn't quit late. Lynch is a baller. But, UT's D stopped him.
The Cal QB's were NEVER comfortable in the pocket (same for Kyle Wright, yet I digress) so I give Chavis props for a pass rush that I didn't think they had.

Very impressed w/ Erik Ainge at QB for UT. Stayed in and made some tough throws.

All in all - Cal was about 4 plays away from a very close game. The 2 missed tackles on Meachem's TD catches and the missed tackle on Hardesty's TD run. Plus a TE dropped a sure first down when they were starting to make a run - they had to punt.

I'm not sure what that game says - is UT that good or Cal that bad? Were Cal's mistakes typical first game rust?
I dunno.
 
CEDeoudes59 said:
I think this loss and the USC win - ties Pete Carroll with Choker for best record in the past 4 years?

weird how that works. I never thought Coker was worth a sh1t, he won with Davis' team. Whatever the story is, I respect your opinion JHM - all the Miami fans in the swamp are so unrealistic - they think every Miami team is by far the best in the nation. I've listened to how Devin Hester was better than Ed Reed and Shaun Taylor combined. Miami no longer 'reloads' they 'rebuild'. is that Cokers' fault? could be..

It's USC that reloads. That's why anyone who hates on this USC team is in for a surprise - there is no Reggie Bush, but this team is faster than 04 and 05. Carroll said so. Booty the #1 prospect overall in the freshman class that in included Michael Bush (used to be a QB), Kyle Wright and Brady Quinn. He's going to be really really good
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You know - some guys just aren't ready for the limelight as a head coach (the guy from Nebraska comes to mind).

Coker is a great guy - was absolutely right for the 2k1 team (GOAT) - but he's just not right for head coach at Miami.

I was most disappointed in Wright - after watching Erik Ainge's maturation live in K-ville last Saturday. He (Ainge) has progressed - yet Wright is no better. Still peeking at the pass rush, still not throwing the ball away.
He's got a helluva arm. He's got the tools. I just don't think they game has slowed down for him yet (and it might not ever).
The difference is an OC at UT that knows what he's doing (and an HC that gets outta his way w/ playcalling).

All I know about records is that LC is 53-10. No clue about Carroll.

I think it is LC's fault we now rebuild.
Look at the freaking talent Butch had amassed when he left in 2000. It's staggering.
We've missed on QB's the last few years. We have no one in the pipeline after Wright (the back-up - Freeman - is a running QB and that doesn't work in our "system" - whatever that is...).
We've missed on OL (that was Kehoe's fault though). We've missed on WR (Shields was the first in a while it seems).
We seem to now rely on ESPN.com to pick who we should recruit (that's just my opinion but I think they are going after 5 star kids not ones that fit into the system).

I will conceed that every team has it's ups and downs. USC will have theirs.
It's the trend at Miami that I'm alarmed with (increasing losses since the title in 2001).
 
Maybe Wright is a little better, first game jitters maybe.
But still - a lame excuse.

I think Carroll and Coker are now tied
 
I found out late last night that the big blindside tackle - Reggie Youngblood - badly turned an ankle early in the 3rd Q.

I'm sure Kyle knew this - perhaps it influenced him to look at the rush moreso than normal???
 
jmh80 said:
You know - some guys just aren't ready for the limelight as a head coach (the guy from Nebraska comes to mind).

As a Nebraska guy, I have to say that Bill Callahan is doing a great job bringing us back from where Solich had lowered it to. We should win the Big 12 north this season and give USC and Texas a run for their money. He took over a program desinged for the option ,that had an average recruiting class of about 35-40 in the country. 5-6, 8-4 and this season a possible 11-2. Yeah, I think we will keep him .
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I KNEW he would work out.
I thought you guys were gonna give Texas a run last year.

A Neb. grad that works at another site for my company told me a few weeks ago at a training class that you guys would beat either SC or Texas due to your good D.

What are your thoughts on the Keller/Beck situation?


BTW - we had some great games in the past. I'd love to see another Nebraska - Miami championship game. I still respect the hell outta Osbourne for going for 2 in the '84 Orange.
 
Congrats to the CAL Bears who look like they are going to beat Portland St., it's 14-3 at half now. If Cal can run the clock, they should sneak this one out.

Go Cal! Go Hippy Fairies!
so pathetic
 
Coker is a joke. He lets the Miami players stomp on the Louisville logo and gets absolutely smashed by a backup QB and RB. That old man needs to go sell used cars. IBE should hook him up with some research viagra
 
CEDeoudes59 said:
Coker is a joke. He lets the Miami players stomp on the Louisville logo and gets absolutely smashed by a backup QB and RB. That old man needs to go sell used cars. IBE should hook him up with some research viagra
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Greg Schiano anyone?
 
For some reason I just checked out Rutgers schedule. And I believe that there is a shot between them going 10-2. And actually could be 11-0 heading into WVU for their last game.

5 Sat., Sep 23 Howard 2:00 PM ET
6 Fri., Sep 29 @South Florida 8:00 PM ET
8 Sat., Oct 14 @Navy 1:30 PM ET
9 Sat., Oct 21 @Pittsburgh 12:00 PM ET
10 Sat., Oct 28 Connecticut 8:00 PM ET
12 Thur., Nov 9 Louisville 7:30 PM ET
13 Sat., Nov 18 @Cincinnati 12:30 PM ET
14 Sat., Nov 25 Syracuse 12:00 PM ET
15 Sat., Dec 2 @West Virginia 12:00 PM ET

Now if Brohm and Bush are gone for UofL, then maybe just maybe Rutgers could sneak past them. Doubt it after the game today, but its possible. Now they could easily revert back to their old ways and lose to navy or cincy, but its kinda scary thinking this could be a 10 win season for Rutgers. Never thought I would ever see this actually be a real possibility.

No real reason to post this other than I thought it was interesting.
 
lilkev42 said:
For some reason I just checked out Rutgers schedule. And I believe that there is a shot between them going 10-2. And actually could be 11-0 heading into WVU for their last game.
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Good post! Navy is a good team though. That is a tough game. Rutgers finishes 10-2.
 
CEDeoudes59 said:
Good post! Navy is a good team though. That is a tough game. Rutgers finishes 10-2.
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Yeah, and who knows Pitt could actually show something. Palko every once in awhile will be great, although I havnt seen them this year. I would love to see Rutgers get 10-2 and maybe get ranked even, I like seeing the underdogs to start to compete.
 
I hope Pitt (or some team) beats WVU. Pitt is really garbage though. Their recievers are all really short (i think) and they are also slow. Slow and Short at Wideout = no upside. Palko is aight but the talent has never been so pathetic at Pitt in a long time.
WVU isn't losing to Pitt, the will take the game seriously.
 
Some JMH's thoughts after watching waaaaaaaaaaaay too much football while in the beach in Florida for the weekend (and resisting burning my signed Coker picture in effigy the whole time).

Go ahead and pencil the Mich/Ohio St winner into the Fiesta against USC.
I don't care what CED59 says - the Pac10 SUCKS!
Nebraska put up a good fight - but their offense isn't ready yet.
Mich. looks like a serious challenger against Ohio St.
Manningham is a freaking stud at WR!!

I thought Tennessee looked pretty good. Fla had a better DLine though - and the lack of run really killed Ainge's game plan capability.
Fla's secondary isn't so good - but they won't face another team in the regular season that can pass like UT.
Pencil Auburn to play FLA in Atlanta for the SEC championship.

In the "JMH told ya so dept" FSU and Miami both suck.
Word is Coker might be fired as early as Tuesday with the Dcoordinator (Randy Shannon - black guy) named as interim HC.
FSU was really only in the game against Clemsom because Clemson can't block on PT's/field goals.
Also - the ACC as a whole is pretty damn weak this year. Not that I'm all that surprised at this point...

Rutgers is indeed looking good.

L'ville can't keep it up without Brohm I don't think. They carried the rest of the game yesterday on adrenaline after getting up. I don't think they beat W. Virgina (not that WVU is all that good...) with Cantwell at QB (and no Bush/Brohm).

USC isn't that good. But, the schedule sucks major balls (mine after this stack of Restore/JW/Alpha Drive...) so they will make it to the Fiesta.
Then - we'll be subjected to more of Carroll's stupidly agressive calls at the wrong time.

Finally - on to Miami.
I'm giddy about a new coach. 2006 is done for us. But, we've got alot of young kids we can start getting PT. Fairly young Oline - perhaps some hope for the future.
Hope for half time adjustments!!! (I've forgotten what those are...)
Let's start playing the freshman and sophmores. Start Javarrious James at RB - he's the future. Start Sam Shields. Put in Ryan Hill more often at WR.
Start some of the back-up sophs' on the OL. Same for the DL. Get some of the young guys some run in the secondary.
Let's think ahead - '07 yields a really difficult schedule (sorta depending on how Oklahoma is).

Alright - I'm out. Time to go read more about these Coker getting fired rumors.
 
jmh80 said:
Go ahead and pencil the Mich/Ohio St winner into the Fiesta against USC.
I don't care what CED59 says - the Pac10 SUCKS!
Nebraska put up a good fight - but their offense isn't ready yet.
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I agree but, Ohio St or Iowa (not michigan) in the Fiesta vs. USC. I know Michigan looks great, but I'm sticking with the Hawks pick.

jmh80 said:
I thought Tennessee looked pretty good. Fla had a better DLine though - and the lack of run really killed Ainge's game plan capability.
Fla's secondary isn't so good - but they won't face another team in the regular season that can pass like UT.
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I think I'm a 100% USC fan now. The game in The Colliseum was like a movie. Booty to Jarrett, first down, replay shows, music plays, people clap. It's unlike the SEC where the southern boys wear tucked in Polo Shirts, Bow-ties and sunglasses with crookies (strings) and sing their little songs. It's like a Pro-team atmosphere. It's Hollywood baby.

I watched the UF game on tivo first thing in the morning in So Cal. Coach Meyer is an idiot. He changes QBs 3times in the middle of a drive in a stadium of 106,000 fans. He burns timeouts. His offense is completely stupid. Each play takes 14seconds to develop. Leak has to fake handoffs, drop back, then go through 4 different short pass reads. This is so stupid. We use a 230lbs downfield, 1cut back in this spread option (DeShawn Wynn). Wynn is a decent back but he's not quick enough to get out of the backfield on shotgun options. He is an I-Form back. We were lucky to win.

LSU stumbled yesterday but they are going to beat the **** out of Florida on Homecoming unless we do something else. I think LSU is going to still win the West. JaMarcus Russell is a goofy QB. He is terribly overrated. But Brandox Cox is too. Want to learn how a real QB plays: see Jay Cutler or Rex Grossman and soon Mitch Mustain.

jmh80 said:
USC isn't that good. But, the schedule sucks major balls (mine after this stack of Restore/JW/Alpha Drive...) so they will make it to the Fiesta.
Then - we'll be subjected to more of Carroll's stupidly agressive calls at the wrong time.
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West Vagina's schedule is much much easier than USCs. I will agree with you the PAC-10 is bad. I was really impressed with USC's defense. The game should have been 28-6, but Dallas Sartz (team captain, LB) took at stupid penalty on 3rd and goal. USC is the closet thing to an NFL team right now. By that I mean, the ball comes out quickly. The wideouts move smoothly, the defense plays as a unit. They are faster on defense than ANY SEC team. The line is incredible. They can finese and power run. DBOL+USC Line = Denver Broncos Line

In terms of Pete Carroll. I agree with you, but we are only talking about the Rose Bowl. He really messed up on time management and using timeouts when the clock had already stopped. He's undefeated going on 4 years, minus Vincent Young's performance. He's the ultimate player's coach. He makes Urban Meyer look absolutely classless. Meyer calls out players in the school newspaper. The guy is jerk, but he's undefeated in our big games. So I ain't writing him off by any means.

jmh80 said:
Finally - on to Miami.
I'm giddy about a new coach. 2006 is done for us.
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I hope you guys get a new coach. You are due. It's hard to be "the guy-after-the-guy" (see coker, ron zook). It's easier to be "the-guy-after-the-guy-after-the-guy" (see Urban Meyer).

Colarado Buffaloes are horrible, just thought i'd pitch that in there.

Nat'l Title:
USC vs. Bucks (probably, 70%)
USC vs. Iowa (maybe, 19%)
USC vs. Auburn (maybe not, 5%)
USC vs. LSU (maybe not, 4%)
USC vs. Florida (probably not, 2%)

:donut:
 
Looks like the rumor is something like this: they are talking with Shannon about being interim. But are worried he might want to be permanent HC and could jump to NCState (where Amato is expected to be fired soon - they wanted Randy HARD after last year - no clue why).

I'm ambivalent on this scenario. I can't say that Shannon is without his faults. I think he's too stubborn with his defensive schemes (see the 1-on-1 coverage when the CB's showed they were tired/not quite good enough yesterday).

But - he's different. I'm perfectly fine with him as an interim. We'll see what he can do - how the young guys respond to him.
I'm not sure if interim is all that good for recruiting (as if Coker is though....).

Schiano just might be a good hire. He's turned Butgers around - which is a hella accomplishment.
 
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