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No issues last night; only got up to urinate once instead of like 3-4 all three nights before. All good. It's my 9th day today and I still don't feel any different. Sleep's the same, I don't feel more aggression in the gym. Will be patient.
 
No issues last night; only got up to urinate once instead of like 3-4 all three nights before. All good. It's my 9th day today and I still don't feel any different. Sleep's the same, I don't feel more aggression in the gym. Will be patient.

Give it time. It takes about 2 weeks to kick in. I'm surprised you haven't noticed better sleep. That is something that usually appears within the first week. Are you taking your last dose pre bed on an empty stomach? Also, I wouldn't be on the lookout for aggressiveness. Personally, this is not something that testboosters increase. If anything, it is just placebo. One has an aggressive personality test boosters or not.
 
Give it time. It takes about 2 weeks to kick in. I'm surprised you haven't noticed better sleep. That is something that usually appears within the first week. Are you taking your last dose pre bed on an empty stomach? Also, I wouldn't be on the lookout for aggressiveness. Personally, this is not something that testboosters increase. If anything, it is just placebo. One has an aggressive personality test boosters or not.

Well that might make more sense. I'm already a pretty aggro personality, unfortunately. Due to anything with TKA, I have to take all my doses no later than 3pm. Prebed and I'd never sleep. TKA, which I've taken before, always impacts my ability to fall asleep; get hot, restless, etc.
 
Well that might make more sense. I'm already a pretty aggro personality, unfortunately. Due to anything with TKA, I have to take all my doses no later than 3pm. Prebed and I'd never sleep. TKA, which I've taken before, always impacts my ability to fall asleep; get hot, restless, etc.

Gotcha. That is more than likely why your sleep hasn't been positively effected.
 
Just got some blood work back from June 30th. A little disappointed my Free Test lowered from 22 to 14 in 4 years. My SHGB rose 10 points (to 37) as well as my E2 (from 12 to 29 - <63). I've been under quite a bit of stress lately and sleeps been crappy as. Result for the last 2 months. I'm hoping the drop is because of that rather than just turning 40. Still not feeling much from the AMXT and today is 2 weeks. I have gained some lean mass and weights up from 188 -192.
 
Just got some blood work back from June 30th. A little disappointed my Free Test lowered from 22 to 14 in 4 years. My SHGB rose 10 points (to 37) as well as my E2 (from 12 to 29 - <63). I've been under quite a bit of stress lately and sleeps been crappy as. Result for the last 2 months. I'm hoping the drop is because of that rather than just turning 40. Still not feeling much from the AMXT and today is 2 weeks. I have gained some lean mass and weights up from 188 -192.

Be patient with the Alphamax XT. Two weeks in isn't adequate time to assess effectiveness, and I always start to actually feel it working around the 3 week mark. Has it been helping at all with stress? Ashwagandha always helps me with stress, and when I use Alphamax XT I always feel like I sleep better and have less stress.

Glad to see you're up a few pounds though, thats good news! Are you planning to make this a 4 week Alphamax cycle or an 8?
 
Be patient with the Alphamax XT. Two weeks in isn't adequate time to assess effectiveness, and I always start to actually feel it working around the 3 week mark. Has it been helping at all with stress? Ashwagandha always helps me with stress, and when I use Alphamax XT I always feel like I sleep better and have less stress.

Glad to see you're up a few pounds though, thats good news! Are you planning to make this a 4 week Alphamax cycle or an 8?

Cheers, man. I'm not a very patient person and the Viron seemed to hit immediately. It's hard to tell. I DO feel a bit less aggro in situations I would normally jump all over people. But at the same time, I'm in the process of tapering off Trazadone after a short 4 week use of 50mg, so that's going to effect some of my mood and anxiety. No raging libido as of now, but it's not sunk either. I expect too much too soon, I guess, especially based off some other users's feedback.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I may run AMXT for 8 weeks, or I may run Viron for 4 weeks after 4 weeks of AMXT, or I may stop after 4 weeks and start Viron after a 4 week break. I am dosing it 5 on/2 off; I've just always done that with TKA.

My main concern now is to figure out why my Free Test decreased substantially in 4 years like that, but my overall numbers don't look terrible. See below; this was taken June 30th at 9:50am:

TSH: 1.0 UIU/ML / 0.5-4.7 (This usually is low-normal to normal, it fluctuates)
FREE T4: 1.17 NG/DL / 0.73-1.95
T3 TOTAL: 77 NG/DL / 60-181

Total Test: 586 NG/DL / 300-1080

SHGB: 37 NMOL/L / 16.5-55.9 (Up ten points from 4 years ago - grrr)

FREE TEST: 11.8 NG/DL / 4.8-25.7 (down 11 points from 4 years ago - grrr)

FSH: 3.1 MIU/ML / 1.3 - 11.4 (usually low-normal)

LH: 2.7 MIU/ML / 1.2 - 7.8 (usually low-normal)

ESTRADIOL: 29 PG/ML / <=63 (up from 12 from 4 years ago)

VITAMIN D, 25 OH: 48 NG/ML / 30-100

VITAMIN B-12: 663 PG/ML / 250-1100
 
So today is day 17 and I'm noticing that my libido may be dropping slightly. I had a similar experience on Testruction. As you can see my numbers above, I shouldn't be experiencing this, but I am. Not in my head either, as of Sunday I had no issues with my partner. I can feel somethings going a bit reverse. Is there such a thing as calm before the storm? Need some help, gents... I don't want to quit this run.

FWIW, I had no issues like this on straight LJ100 by OL. It definitely gave me a boost.

I am noticing some recomp and a looking a bit fuller at the same time, but that's not worth a libido drop for me.
 
So today is day 17 and I'm noticing that my libido may be dropping slightly. I had a similar experience on Testruction. As you can see my numbers above, I shouldn't be experiencing this, but I am. Not in my head either, as of Sunday I had no issues with my partner. I can feel somethings going a bit reverse. Is there such a thing as calm before the storm? Need some help, gents... I don't want to quit this run.

FWIW, I had no issues like this on straight LJ100 by OL. It definitely gave me a boost.

I am noticing some recomp and a looking a bit fuller at the same time, but that's not worth a libido drop for me.

You've noted an increase in stress and decrease in sleep. Under those circumstances, libido is probably going to be one of the first things to be affected.
 
You've noted an increase in stress and decrease in sleep. Under those circumstances, libido is probably going to be one of the first things to be affected.

Yup, BUT my sleep has actually been much better the last days! Very happy to report that. In the beginning, it was a bit disrupted, but it evened out a bit. I'm not super stressed. I'll stay the course and not worry about it. Will update after the weekend. Thanks.
 
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you lot make me want to buy some alphamax... pay day friday...

The Nutriverse sale ends Monday unfortunately. There are usually sales floating around from the sponsored sites, but if you can manage to pick up Alphamax XT on their 20% off sale you should haha. Awesome product and awesome user feedback across the board
 
The Nutriverse sale ends Monday unfortunately. There are usually sales floating around from the sponsored sites, but if you can manage to pick up Alphamax XT on their 20% off sale you should haha. Awesome product and awesome user feedback across the board

I'm in the UK anyway, power myself has it in stock, waiting to hear back to see if they will stock the new hyper max as well
 
The new version of Hypermax is intense. Have you used the OG Hypermax XT?

It's since joining this forum that I've come to know about performax stuff, I mean theres a few UK sites that sell the range, buts when you read the reviews/logs is when you get a better idea. So I look forward to trying it out once it hits the UK.
 
Just an update: I'm two days into the start of my third week. Sleep's improved. Whenever I start something with TKA, I get some restless nights and then it subsides. No significant increase in libido. Maybe a slight increase in strength gains. I can see a bit of recomp; belly's not getting bigger and I'm eating more. Look forward the remaining two weeks. ...Still not sure if I'll go 4 or 6 or 8 weeks.
 
Just an update: I'm two days into the start of my third week. Sleep's improved. Whenever I start something with TKA, I get some restless nights and then it subsides. No significant increase in libido. Maybe a slight increase in strength gains. I can see a bit of recomp; belly's not getting bigger and I'm eating more. Look forward the remaining two weeks. ...Still not sure if I'll go 4 or 6 or 8 weeks.

Sounds good so far. How many calories are you consuming daily and what is your maintenance level?
 
I don't count, man, sorry. I wish I did! Here's a sample of a typical day...

5:30am Wake up: PB folder over / ON Pro Complex Shake

7:00am Work out

8::00am Post Workout: Iso-100 shake

8:30am Breakfast: 6 egg whites / half potato or cup of oats

10:00am - Half sweet potato or Casien Shake

11:30am - Ground turkey, jasmine rice, cheese, beans, lettuce / fish, sweet potato, broccli

2pm - sweet potato or 3 steak tacos or a burrito from Chipotle (depends on what's possible and where I am)

5pm - cookies or some crap

7:30pm - steak/chicken/or salmon, quinoa, asparagus or broccoli

9pm - Casien Shake

I don't have the diet down to a science, but I make sure I'm eating most of the day. Sometimes work won't permit me to eat as much and I can lose a few pounds quick. My regular weight is 185 lbs.
 
I don't count, man, sorry. I wish I did! Here's a sample of a typical day...

5:30am Wake up: PB folder over / ON Pro Complex Shake

7:00am Work out

8::00am Post Workout: Iso-100 shake

8:30am Breakfast: 6 egg whites / half potato or cup of oats

10:00am - Half sweet potato or Casien Shake

11:30am - Ground turkey, jasmine rice, cheese, beans, lettuce / fish, sweet potato, broccli

2pm - sweet potato or 3 steak tacos or a burrito from Chipotle (depends on what's possible and where I am)

5pm - cookies or some crap

7:30pm - steak/chicken/or salmon, quinoa, asparagus or broccoli

9pm - Casien Shake

I don't have the diet down to a science, but I make sure I'm eating most of the day. Sometimes work won't permit me to eat as much and I can lose a few pounds quick. My regular weight is 185 lbs.

Gotcha. It is hard to say if your results are good and/or typical since we cannot accurately say if you're in a surplus or not. But regardless, if you're eating more, strength is up a little and you're seeing recomp results (looking more muscular and leaner) it sounds like AlphaMax XT is treating you well thus far. How is vasculairty? Are you normally vascular?
 
No real change in vascularity, and I'm not typically very vascular. Just my arms. Look, I will tell you this, before I injured my bicep back in early December, I was lifting like a beast, eating like a beast, and just hitting it harder than I'm able to right now. And I was not taking a boost of any kind and I got bigger, more vascular simply by eating, traning, and sleeping. THAT'S IT! THAT will make THE difference on the overall effect of ANY supplement.

I'm trying to work around it and my injuries are slowly healing; in fact, I'm ALMOST back to 100%. That said, I can still train around the injuries hard, but the last few weeks since I started AMXT have been very long with work, though sleep's been good for the most part.

People need to remember that these OTC's are not magic pills. You wanna go hard, big, fast, do AAS. I won't do those at this stage in my life; maybe later. OTC's are effective on the right path when other variables are on track. Regarding libido going off the charts, a lot of other things factor into that. My libido's always been pretty good, so I'm understanding that AMXT probably is not going to have a super substantial impact on my libido. I'm fortunate that my libido is really healthy at age 39.75.

I will keep you guys posted in a few days on things. I'm still working with my chiro on shoulder and right bicep. Can't barbell much these days, so my compounds are limited. Compound lifts with limited isolation is where I grow best.

To reply to your comment, I would say AMXT is treating me well. I'm pleased with the value, despite no crazy improvements in any one particular thing. I would recommend others to give this product a shot. Cheers, brother!
 
Just an update that I'm into my 4th week. Sleep's become much deeper, almost harder to get out of bed, but not in a bad way. Still not major libido boost, but more noticable morning wood. I think I want to run it for another 2-4 weeks, for a total of 6-8. I'm weary of running things for too long. Strength is mildly increasing. Trying to eat my ass off. Can definitely tell my mid-section is leaner. I'm definitely more calm than usual, which is a great thing!

I don't want to start running OTC boosters all the time, so this has been a good experience overall. I'm sure there are more hardcore boosters out there, but I don't want to eff with my hormones too much at 40. I would recommend this product so far.
 
Just an update that I'm into my 4th week. Sleep's become much deeper, almost harder to get out of bed, but not in a bad way. Still not major libido boost, but more noticable morning wood. I think I want to run it for another 2-4 weeks, for a total of 6-8. I'm weary of running things for too long. Strength is mildly increasing. Trying to eat my ass off. Can definitely tell my mid-section is leaner. I'm definitely more calm than usual, which is a great thing!

I don't want to start running OTC boosters all the time, so this has been a good experience overall. I'm sure there are more hardcore boosters out there, but I don't want to eff with my hormones too much at 40. I would recommend this product so far.

Great update - sounds like Alphamax XT is treating you well. You shouldn't run OTC boosters all the time, but Alphamax XT is all natural ingredients that won't disrupt your natural hormone levels if cycled properly. It sounds like you're getting great physique results, as well as other added benefits which is great. That's the glory of having such a well rounded ingredient profile. Keep up the good work bro
 
Just an update that I'm into my 4th week. Sleep's become much deeper, almost harder to get out of bed, but not in a bad way. Still not major libido boost, but more noticable morning wood. I think I want to run it for another 2-4 weeks, for a total of 6-8. I'm weary of running things for too long. Strength is mildly increasing. Trying to eat my ass off. Can definitely tell my mid-section is leaner. I'm definitely more calm than usual, which is a great thing!

I don't want to start running OTC boosters all the time, so this has been a good experience overall. I'm sure there are more hardcore boosters out there, but I don't want to eff with my hormones too much at 40. I would recommend this product so far.

I would say that most, if not all, OTC test boosters, natty anabolics, etc should be ran for a full 8 weeks. It takes a while for some of these ingredients to really shine and running them for four weeks is not the best for optimal results. Just make sure you take at least four weeks off and then run another product or stack of your liking. As long as you take that time off, you're good!

I also do not get much of a libido boost from AlphaMax XT, or most OTC products in general. That is not my main reason for taking them though
 
Great update - sounds like Alphamax XT is treating you well. You shouldn't run OTC boosters all the time, but Alphamax XT is all natural ingredients that won't disrupt your natural hormone levels if cycled properly. It sounds like you're getting great physique results, as well as other added benefits which is great. That's the glory of having such a well rounded ingredient profile. Keep up the good work bro

I would say that most, if not all, OTC test boosters, natty anabolics, etc should be ran for a full 8 weeks. It takes a while for some of these ingredients to really shine and running them for four weeks is not the best for optimal results. Just make sure you take at least four weeks off and then run another product or stack of your liking. As long as you take that time off, you're good!

I also do not get much of a libido boost from AlphaMax XT, or most OTC products in general. That is not my main reason for taking them though

Cheers, guys. I ordered my 2nd bottle last night and will continue for the next few weeks. ...I completely forgot that before I started, I had been taking LJ100 for 5 days prior, so does that count as my week 1? If so, I'll run AXT for a total of 7 weeks.
 
Cheers, guys. I ordered my 2nd bottle last night and will continue for the next few weeks. ...I completely forgot that before I started, I had been taking LJ100 for 5 days prior, so does that count as my week 1? If so, I'll run AXT for a total of 7 weeks.

I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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