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Did any one here to start a serious mass building program after the age of 35? Not necessarily to compete, but as personal fitness goal hobby.
Cycle won't start till mid marchI'm turning 35 in March and going balls out on a get big cycle. Will be the first time im going to make a attempt at pure size so il let you know what happens
Balls out? Count me in!I'm turning 35 in March and going balls out on a get big cycle. Will be the first time im going to make a attempt at pure size so il let you know what happens
Thanks, I'm considering a Test E + Deca + Dbol for 16 weeks. My goal for the year is to reach 220 at same bf. I won't start it until March.Cycle won't start till mid march
I've been training consistently for the last 5 years. I've done one standard Test E cycle last year. Now, I'm 37yo, at 195lbs, 5'11", 15%bf. I'm considering doing a second one as I got good results and I was able to keep almost of it. I was just hoping there were other guys at my age that have been to a similar path so that we could share some knowledge.
Tried tested and true. It's a great combo for size. My last run in with transdermal trest left me estrogen sensitive in the nipples if I go too high on test so I'm nervous to run low test with deca. I'm leaning towards test 500 eq 500 for 15 weeks and a superdrol kickstartThanks, I'm considering a Test E + Deca + Dbol for 16 weeks. My goal for the year is to reach 220 at same bf. I won't start it until March.
At my age, I'm trying to avoid maxing out weight while training and I'm focusing on volume to avoid injuries.
Yeah, our long term goals are similar. How much are you taking on TRT? Is it Test C? I have a doctor that proposed that to me but I'm postponing it. I guess it would be better for bodybuilding purposes but I'm concerned about having kids. Also, how does a continuous TRT affect the lipids?You and I are very similar in age and stats. I turn 35 in February, 6' 195lbs and 17%bf. I also have similar goals to you, although mine is 216 at 8.5% (long term final goal! just wanna get to 210 at 12% first.)
Big difference is I have been on legit Dr-prescribed TRT since I was 29. I would never ever go back to natty even if my test levels said I could. It is just so awesome not to have to worry about PCT at all, don't have to worry about losing my gains...I would HIGHLY recommend looking into just getting on test permanently. You will feel 10x better than you do now, I guarantee it.
As for my next cycle, I am also going to run test and deca for 16 weeks, however I am going to use Superdrol as my oral. It blows dbol out of the water. I will never ever take dbol or anadrol since I have a great source for SD. I'd highly recommend SD over dbol - it's just better all the way around. I am gonna go with 300mg test and 150mg deca e3d. This will give me an effective dose of 525mg/week of test (when accounting for ester weight) and about half that of Deca. I will also be running 20mg superdrol for the first 4 weeks, and 10mg superdrol for the last 6 weeks.
I expect phenomenal results from this cycle. I have run it before and it permanently changed my body composition. Feel free to ask me any questions!
Do you consider all these cycles as bulking ones? I was able to pack a lot of size on my first, but surely some of it was fluid retention. A Test + Deca is also a bulking cycle, so that I'm worried to get too bloated instead of focusing on denser muscles with more definition. I've read about cycles that have phase cycling, that is, they start as a bulk, then they progress to body recomp. Not sure if it is suitable for me at this point, but the idea makes sense.Tried tested and true. It's a great combo for size. My last run in with transdermal trest left me estrogen sensitive in the nipples if I go too high on test so I'm nervous to run low test with deca. I'm leaning towards test 500 eq 500 for 15 weeks and a superdrol kickstart
Totally understand where you're coming from on the kids. However, testosterone is not an effective male birth control. Even if that is a concern, you can come off trt and with clomid and hcg get your little guys swimming again (if they ever stopped in the first place).Yeah, our long term goals are similar. How much are you taking on TRT? Is it Test C? I have a doctor that proposed that to me but I'm postponing it. I guess it would be better for bodybuilding purposes but I'm concerned about having kids. Also, how does a continuous TRT affect the lipids?
I've just got the results from a recent blood test. My first cycle ended two months ago and my total test is at 1200ng/dL, free test at 45ng/dL and estradiol at 38pg/mL. These are the only numbers out of the expected range and I'm not sure if I should wait them to reach normal levels before jumping in a second one.
I'll definitely look for SD in place of dBol. What are the benefits of this switch?
In all honesty you can bulk or cut on anything. I've seen a guy do contest prep on test and dbol because it's what they had and they got shredded. What your eating is going to make the real differenceDo you consider all these cycles as bulking ones? I was able to pack a lot of size on my first, but surely some of it was fluid retention. A Test + Deca is also a bulking cycle, so that I'm worried to get too bloated instead of focusing on denser muscles with more definition. I've read about cycles that have phase cycling, that is, they start as a bulk, then they progress to body recomp. Not sure if it is suitable for me at this point, but the idea makes sense.
I mostly agree with this. Yes, certain things are more predisposed to build mass - Superdrol, Anadrol, dbol - but you could still use these on a cut, or a recomp. SD especially. Totally depends on diet.In all honesty you can bulk or cut on anything. I've seen a guy do contest prep on test and dbol because it's what they had and they got shredded. What your eating is going to make the real difference
If you get real pharma anavar at 50mg a day with some test you can build plenty of muscle, winny at 100mg will build some serious muscle but you will probably feel like crap at that dose.I mostly agree with this. Yes, certain things are more predisposed to build mass - Superdrol, Anadrol, dbol - but you could still use these on a cut, or a recomp. SD especially. Totally depends on diet.
Although I think it might be hard to get big gains in terms of mass with things like winstrol or Anavar. So maybe it's more that so called "bulking" steroids can be utilized on any of the three?