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Body Temperature Results on Recreate

Mr.50

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This is some feedback for Jacob and all you good AM bros out there regarding how Recreate affects body temperature in the real world.

I have been taking my temperature 4 times per day for the past month an a half and graphing the results. I take it first thing in the morning (basal) and then 3 different times per day spaced out by three hours. I then take the average of the three daily temps and plot them on a graph (along with a separate graph of the basal temps). As I said I have been doing this for the past 1.5 months.

I just started taking Recreate today and I plan on continuing my temperature measurements. This way we have a controlled study (at least in one person) on its effects on temperature both before and after Recreate.

Mr.50
 
Very nice experiment, I love to see people having initiative like this, reps to you sir.
 
pmiller383 said:
Very nice experiment, I love to see people having initiative like this, reps to you sir.
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Much thanks. My two temperatures taken today (well three but the basal was before the first dose of Recreate) are both elevated, 1st = 99.0 and 2nd= 99.5.


Mr.50
 
interesting. When I was taking Recreate I noticed warmth all day but depending on what I ate I would have extreme bursts of heat. I should of taken my temp when I had those. If you come across this take your temp as I'm interested to see what these spikes can get up to.
 
jminis said:
interesting. When I was taking Recreate I noticed warmth all day but depending on what I ate I would have extreme bursts of heat. I should of taken my temp when I had those. If you come across this take your temp as I'm interested to see what these spikes can get up to.
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If i took my recreate within an hour of eating a hard boiled egg I would notice the body heat to rise the most, Im guessing fats help raise the body heat. take this with a grain of salt though, I only did this twice and can't determine what other factors could have a played a role in this.
 
jminis said:
interesting. When I was taking Recreate I noticed warmth all day but depending on what I ate I would have extreme bursts of heat. I should of taken my temp when I had those. If you come across this take your temp as I'm interested to see what these spikes can get up to.
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guys I will start to increase the number of times per day I take the temperature if I can to include some post meal (and maybe a meal description) temps to see if we can get a handle on this. Later today I will post today's temps. As a teaser though my pre-gym temp was 99.7 degrees F and I only took 2 Recreate today, 1am and 1pm!!!

Mr.50
 
Do you have an excell sheet set up for this, if not I would be glad to make one up for you.
 
Nice work bro!
 
Alright guys so here is the first day results.

I only took 2 Recreate today, 1am and 1 mid afternoon. I am going to stay at this dosage if my temps stay elevated.

12 noon 99.0 degrees

3:20 99.5 degrees

5:20 99.7 degrees

Average 99.4 degrees

Caveat - These temps are a bit squeezed together in time because my other thermometer broke this morning because I tried to wash it yesterday and it is apparently not waterproof. I am using an electronic professional grade thermometer from today on. Tomorrow temps will be spread out throughout the day and first reading of the day will be basal.

I felt great today! Good energy and temps were significantly above baseline (my usual average temp nowadays is 98.3 - 98.7, they have been going up and getting more stable but still need greater stability). Incidentially even though temp was above baseline I felt great and not foggy headed like when on too much T3 to elevate temp. In the past when I have tried to take T3 to increase fat loss it has just made me lethargic and foggy headed.
Workout was just boxing today and abs. Great energy and stamina (especially considering I am way over fighting weight).

Mr.50
 
Awesome idea 50, curious to see if you can find a proven correlation to the intake of fats and the extreme warmth users have been reporting. Subbed
 
Well I woke up this morning after a much better then usual night of sleep. I usually do not sleep well and frequently feel like I did not sleep enough and unfortunately this leads to very poor recovery in the gym (a longstanding complaint). Now I am not saying my improved sleep was from the Recreate (last dosage mid afternoon yesterday) but is there a correlation. I did drink some tea last night that was puported to ba "calming" but I have drank it before with no improved sleep. So take it for what its worth.

My morning basal temp was 98.1 (just right for basal) and I just took another temp before eating anything but about 20 minutes after taking my first Recreate (only 1) and it was 99.1! A full degree increase in say 35 minutes from waking up! Thats great in my book. Stay tuned!

Mr.50
 
Mr.50 said:
Well I woke up this morning after a much better then usual night of sleep. I usually do not sleep well and frequently feel like I did not sleep enough and unfortunately this leads to very poor recovery in the gym (a longstanding complaint). Now I am not saying my improved sleep was from the Recreate (last dosage mid afternoon yesterday) but is there a correlation. I did drink some tea last night that was puported to ba "calming" but I have drank it before with no improved sleep. So take it for what its worth.

My morning basal temp was 98.1 (just right for basal) and I just took another temp before eating anything but about 20 minutes after taking my first Recreate (only 1) and it was 99.1! A full degree increase in say 35 minutes from waking up! Thats great in my book. Stay tuned!

Mr.50
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Cool news bro. Are you going to wait until the end of the trial to release the results? Wondering to see if this is abnormal with results you recorded prior to starting recreate.
 
This is some interesting stuff man i like this idea
 
OCCFan023 said:
Cool news bro. Are you going to wait until the end of the trial to release the results? Wondering to see if this is abnormal with results you recorded prior to starting recreate.
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I am actually waiting to hear back from Jacob or Mullet at to there feelings about this thread (since the product has not been released). I think the temp information in and of itself is not a problem but I am not sure if they want me to be elaborating on this at all. I am going to, of course, follow whatever they wish. I actually should have checked with them before I started this but it was sort of spur of the moment that I started the thread.

My latest temps are 98.2 at 9:30 about 20 minutes after eating 3 whole eggs and 1 scoop of protein. So actually the intake of food/fats resulted in a decrease in temp for me on this isolated incident. I also just took my temp right now (12:45pm) and it was 99.4 degrees! That is after one Recreate this morning.

Mr.50
 
Mr.50 said:
guys I will start to increase the number of times per day I take the temperature if I can to include some post meal (and maybe a meal description) temps to see if we can get a handle on this. Later today I will post today's temps. As a teaser though my pre-gym temp was 99.7 degrees F and I only took 2 Recreate today, 1am and 1pm!!!

Mr.50
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1am????. Do you work overnight shift?
 
Mr.50 said:
I am actually waiting to hear back from Jacob or Mullet at to there feelings about this thread (since the product has not been released). I think the temp information in and of itself is not a problem but I am not sure if they want me to be elaborating on this at all. I am going to, of course, follow whatever they wish. I actually should have checked with them before I started this but it was sort of spur of the moment that I started the thread.

My latest temps are 98.2 at 9:30 about 20 minutes after eating 3 whole eggs and 1 scoop of protein. So actually the intake of food/fats resulted in a decrease in temp for me on this isolated incident. I also just took my temp right now (12:45pm) and it was 99.4 degrees! That is after one Recreate this morning.

Mr.50
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all we ask for is honesty so just do not release ingredients yet.
 
USPLabs said:
all we ask for is honesty so just do not release ingredients yet.
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Great to hear. No way I would release the ingredients! I will be full of honesty. Right now I am sitting at my desk sweating through my dress shirt! About to take my second dosage of Recreate and my temp is 99.5 degrees at 2:04pm!

Mr.50
 
Wow! A truly interesting experiment. Kudos! :thumbsup:
 
Thanks guys for the compliments.


As for other results I will post along the way but it might be hard to really judge because I am on a true fat loss/weight loss period in my training. Last Summer with some anabolic help I had gotten up to 223 lbs and fairly lean at around 11% b.f. and 5'8''. I looked ok for the beach (would have liked to be more ripped but I seem to have a ton of trouble losing body fat). But now at this point I have dieted conservatively all winter down to 208 and I would really like to come in this summer ripped even if it means my body weight is in the 180s - 190s. So lbm is not a main focus for me and the majority of my training will be Boxing and core exercises at least for the next month or so. I am going to try to add in some weight training to make sure I maintain lbm but I want to make sure I avoid overtraining (I am very suceptable) and still maintain the snap in my punches and foot speed. Even at 185 I am sort of heavy for a fight sport at 5'8'' so my goal is to reach my optimal functional weight (and still look good at the beach :) ) .

Mr.50
 
Pre workout temp 4:15 99.4 degrees, post workout temp 6:00 99.7 degrees.

Will give totals and review of the day later.

Mr.50
 
Final temp of the night was 99.4 at 8:00 pm. Average for the day was 99.24 not bad at all. Overall feeling was good again today. Now lets see if sleep is better then usual also.

I did not notice a direct correlation between eating and temp increase today but my eating was slightly off today, lots of protein bars and shakes rather then true meals. I will attempt to get some more fixed results on this issue tomorrow.

Mr.50
 
Nice job. Excellent decision making on your part. I had asked about this in another thread, and was very curious why no one had either made up their own mind to do this, or why they simply werent asked as part of their being a tester by usp. Really glad to see someone has the forethought to track temp, the only other thing I would like to see is bp tracking, but I have been told the stim effects are very mild, so I imagine the bp effects would be negligible. Looking forward to seeing you keep this updated.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Nice job. Excellent decision making on your part. I had asked about this in another thread, and was very curious why no one had either made up their own mind to do this, or why they simply werent asked as part of their being a tester by usp. Really glad to see someone has the forethought to track temp, the only other thing I would like to see is bp tracking, but I have been told the stim effects are very mild, so I imagine the bp effects would be negligible. Looking forward to seeing you keep this updated.
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Roadblock great point! I will start to add in BPs tomorrow and that way we will have some feedback on that front.

Mr.50
 
Ok 3/26/08. Morning basal temp (while I was still in bed) was 98.3 which is much improved for me (could it be more conversion from T4 - T3???). Good sleep with a good amount of dreams (usually I do not remember dreaming at all). I feel good this morning so far.

My morning BP was 116/76 and morning heart rate (acter running up the stairs) was 76 (normally it is in the 50's). I will keep you guys posted on that front.

Tonight is a day of rest as far as workouts go because on Wednesdays I teaching boxing to little kids.

Mr.50
 
Same sort of results as yesterday gentlemen. I am in bed right now and my data sheets are on the kitchen table but I will fill in the details tomorrow.

Mr.50
 
EasyEJL said:
have you done the same type of temperature monitoring while taking any other natural thermogenics?
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No sorry Easy I haven't but maybe in the future. The main problem I have is that I really can not use any type of stimulents any more since they really kill my adrenal health and leave me in a fog for weeks after use.


3/27 basal tem today 98.1 degrees. More to follow when I get out of bed and off my a*s. :)

Mr.50
 
Well so far the rest of the temps today have been

98.8
99.1
99.4
99.4

My BP was elevated today but I took it in the middle of the day about 20 minutes after drinking a few cups of diner coffee with my salad. So not sure if it was the coffee especially since the systolic was all that was elevated, 136/76

I will keep an eye on it.

Mr.50
 
Next two temps today were 99.3 and 99.2 average of 99.23. BP was elevated again 138/74. I will keep an eye on that.


Mr.50
 
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Mr.50 said:
Next two temps today were 99.3 and 99.2 average of 99.23. BP was elevated again 138/74. I will keep an eye on that.


Mr.50
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Well, dont keep to much of an eye on it, or you might worry yourself up a few points. LOL. Whenever Im tracking bp for journal/log reasons, I always try to track it at the same time everyday/night, to keep things as accurate as possible.
 
3/28

Basal 98.2. Subsequent today 98.8, 99.1, 99.4.

Did not have a chance to check my BP today. So far I have not found any correlation between the consumption of fats/meals and postprandial temp. Of course that is just my experience it does not mean this is not a possible effect of Recreate. On Monday when I weighed in at the gym I was 208-209 lbs and I will update on this coming Monday for any true weight changes. As of last night my weight was holding steady but my BF seemed to be slightly lower with a little bit of tightening of around the abs.

Mr.50
 
today 3/29 Basal 98.3 rest of temps so far 99.3 99.4 99.4. Very steady and high! Couldn't ask for more.

Mr.50
 
When you take your basal temp, do you take it from an armpit measure or mouth? I took mine today out of curiousity and it was only 96.5 but i took it with the classic under the tongue method.
 
pmiller383 said:
When you take your basal temp, do you take it from an armpit measure or mouth? I took mine today out of curiousity and it was only 96.5 but i took it with the classic under the tongue method.
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Wow PMiller I am surprised you are doing so well getting lean if that is a accurate when taken orally. I usually take my basal temp the usual way (under the tounge) even though the old school way is to take it under the armpit. Nowadays they know that axillary temp is usually 1 degree lower then under the tounge so as a way to standardize temp they now just have people do it under the tounge like the rest of the day. Of course the difference is that axillary temp is least affected by environment (at least first thing in the morning). If you even have a drink or anything first your oral temp will be screwed up. Try it tomorrow morning make sure it is under your tounge and back as far as it goes. Also start to keep track of it the rest of the day for a while if you can. If it is consistently low then get some thyroid bloodwork done to double check it. Of course, if you have no symptoms (still have agood energy level, average or not much trouble losing fat, etc.) then don't worry about it too much but it might bare looking into.

Mr.50
 
Thanks for the advice, I am going to get a new thermometer and try to tomorrow morning and see if its just the old thermometer going bad. I have heard basal temp can also indicate overtraining and central nervous fatigue but I have to look for the article again. Any who keep up the nice work on this log.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mr.50 again.
 
pmiller383 said:
Thanks for the advice, I am going to get a new thermometer and try to tomorrow morning and see if its just the old thermometer going bad. I have heard basal temp can also indicate overtraining and central nervous fatigue but I have to look for the article again. Any who keep up the nice work on this log.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mr.50 again.
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PMiller all of what you have heard is pretty accurate as far as the overtraining and central nervous system fatigue but it is difficult to determine if the problem is in the early stages or late just from the basal. Usually what happens is that the adrenal galands and the thyroid gland are delicatly intertwined. When you have a normal functioning thyroid but overtrain or overuse stimulents you can negativly affect your adrenals and which is the essence of "central nervous system burnout". If it is caught early and rest is taken (lay off from overtraining or overuse of stims) it can stop at that stage and go back to normal. If it becomes chronic then the adrenal burnout becomes the weak link that eventually weakens the thyroid. (Of course may times it is the thyroid that goes first then the adrenals). One of the main signs of low thyroid is low basal temp but this also correlates with burnedout/low adrenals. The best treatment is to try to determine from bloodwork (and saliva for adrenals) where the relevent hormone levels are; to monitor temperatures, both basal, and daily averages; and to treat with glandular support or hormone replacement. This is exactly what I have been doing and I have to say I am getting some pretty good improvements in energy and mood as well as some other subjective measures. I will be repeating bloodwork and saliva in the near future (already had thyroid done twice and saliva cortisol done once before any intervention).

As far as this thread goes, my progress is really steady, temps for today 98.8 basal (wow thats actually high) and the rest so far today 99.7 and 99.4. Still elevated on 2 Recreate a day. I might go up to three tomorrow.

Mr.50
 
50 do you feel any of this raised temp in sensations?
ie:

are you hot all the time?

are you sweating all the time(not when exercising)?

do you feel uncomfortable in any way?

Keep us posted.
 
RoadBlocK said:
50 do you feel any of this raised temp in sensations?
ie:

are you hot all the time?

are you sweating all the time(not when exercising)?

do you feel uncomfortable in any way?

Keep us posted.
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You know that is a great question. The reason I haven't mentioned it will become apparent from my answer....... I do feel hot all the time when others think it is kind of cold and when others think it is really cold I am still fine. I tend to feel hot even when wearing a t-shirt (and its New England here and today was the hottest day we have had this year so far and it was only like 45 degrees). I am sweating a ton when I undertake any physical activity (the workout I expected it but talk about sweating during sex! almost not cool). During the day though seems that my body's cooling mechanisms are able to keep up as long as I am not in the middle of physical activity (I have a desk job). Of course I will be interested to see how bad the passive sweating gets once its summer around here.

SOOOOOO in short, yes I do feel hot all the time (and my girlfriend says I feel hot to the touch) but strangely enough I can not say I feel uncomfortable at all and when I even do slightly opening the window takes care of it. I really have no complaints (its hard to believe).

Of course all we know so far is that my temp is elevated. This should translate to weight/fat loss but I will not be able to tell you about a change on the scale till tomorrow. One person did comment yesterday that it looked like I lost weight but I have not seen her for a few weeks so it may or may not be the Recreate.

Mr.50
 
3/31 Today my basal was 98.5 and susequent two temps have been 99.2 and 99.3. I will try to get around to doing a BP test again today.

On another note I decided to go up to 2 Recreate this morning and 1 this afternoon (3 total instead of 2). I took 2 this morning with an AP (another addition/confounding factor) and promptly got extremely hypoglycemic. Not sure if it was the increase of Recreate or the addition of the AP (though AP does not usually do that to me). It subsided quickly with a scoop of protein powder mixed with low fat soy milk (allergic to cow's milk).

Mr.50
 
Remaining temps yesterday were 99.4 and 99.3


So far today we have

98.5 basal 98.6, 99.4, 99.5


So as you can all see so far my temps are still increased by 3/4 of a degree or so and are steady. I got on the scale yesterday and I was still 208 but I have to say I look and feel leaner (wish I had some evidence to support this).

Mr.50
 
Sounds good so far. Interested to see how the temps change as you go up to 3 and 4 recreate.
 
jminis said:
Sounds good so far. Interested to see how the temps change as you go up to 3 and 4 recreate.
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Well I actually went up to 3 Recreate yesterday and today but I have not seen any sort of linear increase in temp yesterday or today. That does not mean that this increase will not lead to a more gradual temp increase over time. Lets watch it for the next few days and we might have some answers.....

Mr.50
 
I'd like to see it with you taking some other fatburner to compare :) like leviathan reloaded, or vpx meltdown
 
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